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Court reporter

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thumbs up if you're ready

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come to order. This is the time and plate set for the

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public participation hearing in the general rate case

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application of Southern California Edison Company application

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23-05 dash 010. My name is Sophia Park and I am one

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of the administrative law judges assigned to this proceeding

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I am co assigned with Judge Aaron Seibert who is listening

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to today's hearing. We are also joined by Karen Douglas

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who is the assigned commissioner for this case. Commissioner

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Douglas. Would you like to make any opening remarks

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Yes. Thank you, Judge Park and welcome to all members

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of the public participating today. I am the commissioner

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assigned to this proceeding where we will be reviewing

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Southern California Edison 2025 general rate case.

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I want to start by thanking everyone for taking time

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out of their busy day to participate in today's public

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participation hearing. This being the third of sixth

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such hearing. The two hearings being held today are

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both virtual. I just want to acknowledge those who

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have, who may have made the effort to attend today's

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hearings in person due to an incorrect notice and I'm

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sorry for the inconvenience, but I thank you for your

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participation and invite you to provide comments today

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These hearings are an important way for the commission

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to hear directly from individuals and communities who

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are impacted by the results of this proceeding. Your

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feedback at these hearings gives us valuable insights

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including concerns and priorities that will go a long

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way in helping us make informed and balanced decisions

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This phase of the general rate case determines the

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total amount of revenue that S ce is authorized to

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collect to cover various utility costs from 2025 through

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2028. Right now, California is wrestling with a number

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of important priorities that are necessary for the

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provision of affordable, safe, reliable and clean energy

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service. These priorities include investments in clean

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energy programs, infrastructure maintenance and upgrades

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customer energized needs and mitigation work against

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the continued threat of catastrophic wildfires. But

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I'm also well aware of the affordability challenges

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that these priorities could place on ratepayers. To

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that end. We'll be scrutinizing the necessity of southern

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California. Edison's requested funding authorization

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and taking action to contain cost and minimize rate

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increases. With that said, I appreciate the opportunity

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to hear directly from community members today to understand

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your priorities and concerns. I also want to thank

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the many staff who have made today's hearing possible

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including Judge Park, Judge Seibert, the public Advisor's

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office, our court reporters and our it staff. Thank

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you very much and back to you, Judge Park. Thank you

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Commissioner. The purpose of today's hearing is to

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hear directly from Southern California Edison, customers

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and the general public about this particular application

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Your input and comments are very helpful as parties

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and the commission continue to consider all aspects

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of Edison's request prior to making a decision. And

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throughout this hearing, I may refer to Southern California

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Edington Company just simply as Edison, as the commissioner

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mentioned. This is the third of four virtual hearings

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we are holding regarding this application. The commission

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will also be holding two in person hearings on April

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10th at two o'clock PM and six o'clock pm in Long Beach

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at the Recreation Park Community Center located at

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4900 East Seventh Street. I understand that some customers

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may have received an incorrect notice that the in person

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hearings were occurring today. If there are any customers

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who did not receive the correct information and are

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at the Long Beach venue today. Thank you for your efforts

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to attend the hearing and I'm sorry for any inconvenience

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I invite you to still provide public comments during

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today's virtual hearing. Edison employees should be

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at the venue to assist you if you are able. We also

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invite you to return for the in-person hearing scheduled

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for April 10th for participants that wish to provide

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public comments today. You may do so by calling 1 808

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157 197 entering passcode 603278 £8 for English or

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379962 £7 for Spanish, then pressing star one on your

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phone. These instructions are also available online

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on the webcast of today's hearing. The operator will

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maintain the queue of public commenters and announce

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your name when it is your turn to speak. The overall

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purpose of today's hearing is to obtain public feedback

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and comments. If you have questions regarding the application

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you may go to the commission's website, www dot CPUC

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dot C a.gov/tph or contact the commission's public

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advisor at public dot advisor at cpu.c.gov for assistance

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If you have a question about your bill or service that

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is not directly related to Edison's application. We

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have two representatives from the company who are standing

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by and are available to assist customers during today's

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public participation hearings. You may contact Priscilla

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Medina at 6268157214. Her email address is Priscilla

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Pr Iscill A dot Medin A at S ce.com. Alternatively

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you may contact Carrie Gardner. Her number is 9097732269

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email address Kar I dot Gardn er at S ce.com.

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Before we start hearing from the public, I would like

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to give you a brief overview of the California Public

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Utilities Commission and the application filed by Southern

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California Edison Company. The Public Utilities Commission

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is a state agency that regulates privately owned utilities

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such as Edison, among other things, the commission

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decides how much money Edison should be authorized

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to collect from its customers and the actual rates

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that will be included on customers bills for electric

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service. The public utilities commission has five commissioners

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who are appointed by the governor and confirmed by

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the State Senate Judge Cibber and I manage the day

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to day activities of the case. However, the five commissioners

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are ultimately the ones who will decide and vote on

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whether or not to approve Edison's request or some

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other amount. Our job as the judges will be to evaluate

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all of the evidence in the proceeding and to write

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a proposed decision for the commissioners to consider

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the five commissioners will then deliberate and decide

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whether to adopt the proposed decision from the judges

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or adopt their own alternate decision based on the

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evidence in the proceeding. It is estimated that the

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commission will vote on this decision in the first

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quarter of next year to briefly summarize Edison's

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application. In May of 2023. Edison submitted its general

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rate case request asking the commission for approval

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of their expected costs for owning and operating the

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company for the year 2025 through 2028. The expenses

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included in Edison's rate case application generally

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cover the pools, wires, meters employees and all other

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activities needed to deliver electricity to your home

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or business. The application also includes capital

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expenditures to upgrade the electric system. Replace

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infrastructure address wildfire risks related to Edison's

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equipment improve cybersecurity among many others.

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It is important to note that the costs we are talking

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about in this application are just one part of Edison's

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annual operating expenses that can impact customers'

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rates. There are other proceedings at the commission

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that impact the rates that Edison ultimately charges

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its customers. But right now, we are here to receive

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comments from the public regarding Edison's request

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to increase revenues. It collects from customers by

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$1.895 billion in 2025 and additional increases of

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$619 million in 2026 $664 million in 2027 and $705

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million in 2028. The impact that such a revenue increase

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would have on customers' bills will vary and depend

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on many factors such as how much energy a customer

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uses. However, if the request is approved, we would

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expect the impact on a typical residential customer

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to be a monthly bill increase of approximately $17.49

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in 2025 which would equate to a monthly bill increase

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of approximately 10%. A typical residential customers

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monthly bill would increase approximately an additional

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$5 in 2026 $5 in 2027 and $5 in 2028. We want

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to hear what you think about Edison's request comments

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from the public can help the public utilities. Commission

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reach an informed decision. The commissioners, Judge

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Seibert and I will pay close attention to the opinions

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expressed during today's public hearing. We have court

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reporters transcribing today's hearing who will be

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taking down everything that is said on the telephone

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line. If you do speak. We ask that you speak slowly

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and clearly so that the reporters are able to capture

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everything that is said. The written transcript of

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today's hearing will be available to judge Seiber and

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myself and the commissioners and posted publicly on

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the docket card for this proceeding. If you or anyone

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else, you know, are not able to make comments today

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There are several other ways to provide input or become

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involved. The commission considers written public comments

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concerning Southern California Edison's application

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which may be submitted any time on the docket card

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for this proceeding by going to A PPS dot CPUC dot

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C a.gov/c/a 2305010. As of today, we have received

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over 200 written public comments. If you wish to find

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more information on how to become involved in the proceeding

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or stay updated on proceeding developments. The commission's

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public advisor is available to assist you. Information

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regarding the public advisor is posted on the commission's

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website www dot C PC dot C a.gov, or you can email

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the public advisor at public dot advisor at CPUC dot

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C a.gov.

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Ok. We will now hear from members of the public

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again if you have a billing or service question that

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is unrelated to Edison's application. You may contact

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Priscilla Medina at 6268157214 or carry Gardner at

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9097732269. If you wish to provide public comments

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at today's hearing, please press star one on your phone

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if you have not already done so and the operator will

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add you to the queue of speakers when it's your turn

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to speak. The operator will announce your name. Please

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begin by spelling your full name, providing your city

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and please remember to speak slowly so the court reporter

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can take down what you are saying to make sure everyone

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has an opportunity to provide comments. Each speaker

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will have a time limit of three minutes a time will

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sound when the three minutes is up. Ok. With that operator

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please call on the first speaker in the queue.

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The public comment line is now open. Our first speaker

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is Laurie Holt. Your line is open.

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Hello, my name is Larry Holt. Uh Larryholt. I live

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in Mission Viejo. Uh I received the Edison legal notice

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in my January Bill. And one of the categories was why

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is S ce requesting this rate increase? And underneath

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that it didn't answer the question. All it did was

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show the amounts requested without any justification

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So um everyone understands that expenses go up but

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uh the year over year increase in 2025 is incredible

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and it requires, I believe substantial justification

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for a 22.6% increase uh in revenue to offset that uh

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those expenses. So, uh I think they owe the public

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uh some detailed justification for expenses that would

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justify a 22.6% increase. Furthermore, on the same

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document, I read that the residential rate for um the

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impact it goes $32.32 per kilowatt hour to 35 almost

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36 cents. I would like to know how that compares amongst

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all the other states. And what is the commission doing

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to rein in extraordinary costs? Because I believe that's

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going to be about the highest in the nation. And uh

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so what is the commission doing to control or constrain

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uh, big increases in residential rates? Thank you very

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much.

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Thank you, Mr Holt, um, operator. Next speaker, please

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Our next speaker is Colleen Campbell. Your lines open

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Yes. Hi, Colleen Colleen Campbell, C AM PB Ell in Westminster

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And um, I'm really appreciative of the fact that I

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am able to be a care customer which cuts a few dollars

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off my bill every month, but, and I really appreciate

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it, but as a senior on a fixed income, I find that

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at least I feel we are penalized in three ways, not

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just our homes. The first is, of course our home and

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I am a town homeowner in a homeowners Association.

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That's another way where we could be penalized and

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increase because we have lighting expenses through

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our association and our dues went up again this year

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And then of course, the third way is our city, we do

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pay for our city's lighting in various taxes. So these

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increases that will continue and actually have, I think

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my bill has doubled in the last four years, even as

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a daycare customer. And I'm finding it very difficult

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with everything else that has increased, not just our

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utilities. So the fact that we have other ways that

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we need to save and we can't do it as long as

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the state keeps giving green energy in edicts that

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are really quite unrealistic. I think that uh the,

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the governor and the utilities company should start

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having better talks that will support the constituents

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the people that live here and uh not just the people

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the powers that be, I don't know if I've made sense

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but thank you for at least letting me make my comments

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Thank you for calling in MS Campbell, uh operator.

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Next speaker. Our next speaker is Corey Brown. Your

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lines open. Yes. Hi. Uh Coy Brown. Cor I Brown is in

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the color brown and I'm in Joshua tree. Um And I love

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it up here. I was born and raised in northern California

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I got stuck in Ohio for uh 29 years, finally got home

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Um And my house uh built delivered slash in Joshua

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tree. Um and I'm just, I mean, I knew that since I

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was a child and young adult that everything is just

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ridiculously skyrocketed in California way more than

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anywhere else. And Ohio, um, my, my electric bill,

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I had an all electric apartment, um, was $60 a month

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during the winter and you got below zero temperatures

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and in single digits in the teens and at least eight

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months out of the year was freezing cold. And I had

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a two bedroom, 1.5 bath apartment, which is almost

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is the size of my house, which is two bedroom, two

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bath. And the difference between my electric bill of

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60 to $65 a month during the coldest time and over

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$400 here for not even being anywhere near as cold

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putting down my heat way down. It's still ridiculous

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compared to Ohio. Now, why does this state have to

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have the prices so much higher than Ohio? Why? It doesn't

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make any sense? And then you want to raise the bill

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it would raise my bill at least another $50 a month

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which would put it close to 500 if not $500 a month

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for a small house to heat during the winter with the

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temperature way down. I put uh thermal underwear on

00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:28.568
and everything and I, when I received this notice when

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it's already, I'm with Colleen. My bill since I moved

00:21:32.118 --> 00:21:36.729
here five years ago has more than doubled. So why in

00:21:36.739 --> 00:21:40.670
the heck, you should be lowering the rates, not raising

00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:45.269
them more when they're already ridiculous. Ok. That's

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my comment. Thank you very much.

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Thank you for taking the time to call in today, MS

00:21:51.868 --> 00:21:56.088
Brown uh operator. Next speaker, please. And that's

00:21:56.098 --> 00:22:14.608
commenter is Stephanie Jacobs your lines open.

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Stephanie Jacobs, your line is open. Please check your

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rebutton

00:22:39.920 --> 00:22:43.789
operator. Let's go to the next speaker. Our next speaker

00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:49.939
is Harriet Quinn. Your lines open. Hello, this is Harriet

00:22:49.949 --> 00:22:59.219
Quinn, Harrietquinn. And I live in Fair Oaks and I

00:22:59.229 --> 00:23:04.039
have lived here over 45 years and for 30 years, I've

00:23:04.049 --> 00:23:08.868
had the landline phone service, which we, my husband

00:23:08.880 --> 00:23:13.118
I love to have that service. And recently we got the

00:23:13.130 --> 00:23:18.140
notice that AT&T was gonna be stopping a T the landline

00:23:18.150 --> 00:23:23.140
service. And, um, so I called AT&T and talked to the

00:23:23.150 --> 00:23:27.368
loyalty department and they said that if we, we had

00:23:27.380 --> 00:23:33.390
changed over from the copper lines and to the fiber

00:23:33.400 --> 00:23:38.328
optic cable, and they said that if we did that, that

00:23:38.338 --> 00:23:41.289
we go through our wireless connection and that we would

00:23:41.299 --> 00:23:46.348
be able to keep the landline service. And I hope that's

00:23:46.358 --> 00:23:50.130
correct because as elderly people, it's so much more

00:23:50.140 --> 00:23:52.949
convenient. We've had the same phone number forever

00:23:53.019 --> 00:23:55.640
and we go through our banking service through our phone

00:23:55.650 --> 00:24:00.140
our landline phone. We do not really like the, um,

00:24:00.150 --> 00:24:03.170
the push on getting the newer cell phones that keep

00:24:03.180 --> 00:24:06.459
going up in rates when you, you buy those and the services

00:24:06.469 --> 00:24:10.858
that go with that. So we hope that AT&T will honor

00:24:10.868 --> 00:24:15.449
loyal customers and make sure that they treat us good

00:24:15.459 --> 00:24:19.618
and not take away our landline services. And thank

00:24:19.630 --> 00:24:22.828
you very much for the opportunity to, to leave my comment

00:24:23.368 --> 00:24:26.368
Ok. Thank you, MS Quinn. I just want to clarify that

00:24:26.380 --> 00:24:30.299
today's hearing is regarding Southern California Edison

00:24:30.309 --> 00:24:32.769
Company's General rate case and it sounds like you're

00:24:32.779 --> 00:24:36.699
wishing to provide comment regarding another proceeding

00:24:36.989 --> 00:24:41.259
Um I encourage you to reach out to our public advisor

00:24:41.400 --> 00:24:48.009
Um That's public dot advisor ad visor at CPUC dot C

00:24:48.019 --> 00:24:51.529
a.gov. And they can get you the information regarding

00:24:51.539 --> 00:24:55.358
the relevant proceeding. Ok. Thank you, Kylie. I appreciate

00:24:55.368 --> 00:24:57.939
the feedback. Have a good day. You're welcome. You

00:24:57.949 --> 00:25:01.779
too. Thank you operator. Next speaker please. Our next

00:25:01.789 --> 00:25:07.989
speaker is Glenda Stevens. Your line is open.

00:25:07.989 --> 00:25:11.338
Thank you uh for giving me the opportunity to comment

00:25:11.699 --> 00:25:19.299
My name is Linda Lind. A Stevens Step as in Paul Hens

00:25:20.150 --> 00:25:23.920
and I'm a resident of Long Beach North Side for since

00:25:23.930 --> 00:25:27.479
1994.

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Ok. I'm calling from, well, the first reason I'm calling

00:25:33.160 --> 00:25:38.108
um thinking about the project projected increase request

00:25:38.118 --> 00:25:41.890
that Edison has made. I'm thinking about people like

00:25:41.900 --> 00:25:47.729
me who are retired on a thick income as Edison goes

00:25:47.739 --> 00:25:51.380
up and our income is fixed. What happens to people

00:25:51.390 --> 00:25:56.750
like us last month. My electric bill was high as it's

00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:59.180
ever been

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$456 this month, March, my bill is $350. So just to

00:26:10.160 --> 00:26:16.150
struggle to pay that, it's less like $800 in two months

00:26:16.809 --> 00:26:20.189
someone who's retired on a fixed income and without

00:26:20.199 --> 00:26:23.509
family help, I wouldn't be able to, to pay it. So we

00:26:23.519 --> 00:26:26.229
wonder why a lot of people end up homeless can't pay

00:26:26.239 --> 00:26:28.410
the bill.

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Uh My second comment is every month when Edison bill

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comes, I know that there's always a note in that every

00:26:38.680 --> 00:26:43.539
month where Edison has requested from the California

00:26:43.549 --> 00:26:49.108
Public Utilities Commission, a rate increase. So I

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I just don't understand what are we to do and if you're

00:26:56.000 --> 00:27:00.358
not making 35 $40 an hour, which most people are not

00:27:00.759 --> 00:27:04.279
we won't be able to afford electricity and there are

00:27:04.289 --> 00:27:08.328
some people who have health issues. I don't have thyroids

00:27:08.338 --> 00:27:12.269
anymore, so I'm cold so I may use more energy in the

00:27:12.279 --> 00:27:16.789
winter time for $450. And I'm supposed to have the

00:27:16.799 --> 00:27:22.068
care package too. I, I just don't understand that the

00:27:22.078 --> 00:27:25.650
future of Edison increasing the way they want to does

00:27:25.660 --> 00:27:30.150
not look good for people like me. And I thank you for

00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:33.699
letting me make my comments.

00:27:33.699 --> 00:27:35.529
Thank you for taking the time to call in today, MS

00:27:35.539 --> 00:27:40.259
Stevens uh operator. Next caller, our next caller is

00:27:40.269 --> 00:27:44.828
Juice Bruce. Your line is open.

00:27:44.828 --> 00:27:47.809
Can you hear me?

00:27:47.809 --> 00:27:54.150
Yes, I can.

00:27:54.150 --> 00:27:58.150
Can you, can somebody hear me?

00:27:58.150 --> 00:28:00.828
I love to hear you, but you're a little bit patchy

00:28:01.868 --> 00:28:05.449
Can you hear me? Yes, I can hear you well now. Ok

00:28:05.459 --> 00:28:10.719
great. Um, Eunice Bruce. E UN I ce last name Bruc.

00:28:12.059 --> 00:28:17.549
Yeah, I have noticed that my bill has gone up double

00:28:17.920 --> 00:28:21.338
and I have never paid. Uh, MS Bruce. Can you hold on

00:28:21.348 --> 00:28:23.549
just one second? We're off the record right now because

00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:25.568
you're cutting in and out and so the court reporter

00:28:25.578 --> 00:28:30.049
is not able to take down what you are saying. Um Can

00:28:30.059 --> 00:28:32.299
you try saying just a few words right now so I can

00:28:32.588 --> 00:28:35.420
check your, can you hear me now? Can you hear me now

00:28:36.500 --> 00:28:39.009
I can't, but you're hearing me now, the court reporter

00:28:39.019 --> 00:28:41.189
is telling me she cannot make up what you're saying

00:28:42.229 --> 00:28:45.838
Ok, let me go to another location. Uh How about now

00:28:45.848 --> 00:28:49.949
Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Ok. Uh I think

00:28:49.959 --> 00:28:53.039
that might work if you can just

00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:56.049
right here. Ok. Are we gonna give it a try, Miss Bruce

00:28:56.059 --> 00:28:58.979
We will give it a try one second. Ok, Carly, let's

00:28:58.989 --> 00:29:02.430
go back on the record. Ok, Miss Bruce. Um, can you

00:29:02.439 --> 00:29:04.430
start with your name again? Because I'm not sure the

00:29:04.439 --> 00:29:07.160
court reporter caught it the first time around. Yes

00:29:07.279 --> 00:29:11.509
So can everybody hear me? Ok.

00:29:11.509 --> 00:29:17.068
Uh Why don't you go up to speed? Yes. Ok. So B

00:29:17.078 --> 00:29:22.000
UN I ce first name, last name, B as in boy, ru

00:29:22.009 --> 00:29:24.299
ce

00:29:24.299 --> 00:29:27.989
for the past few months, especially the last two months

00:29:28.000 --> 00:29:32.269
I have noticed that my bill had gone up double and

00:29:32.279 --> 00:29:35.598
I have called ste for help and they have said for me

00:29:35.608 --> 00:29:39.289
to get into care program when I was unemployed, I was

00:29:39.299 --> 00:29:42.949
able to apply for the care program. And then when I

00:29:42.959 --> 00:29:46.539
got a job, therefore, no more care program. However

00:29:46.809 --> 00:29:51.400
with the bill going up doubled when I called S ce I

00:29:51.410 --> 00:29:56.039
was told that there are, there is a portion of my bill

00:29:56.049 --> 00:29:59.078
that my city city of Arcadia is also paying for clean

00:29:59.088 --> 00:30:05.640
air. I don't II I just don't get it. I'm paying Dublin

00:30:05.650 --> 00:30:09.019
I'm paying S CE and I'm paying my, my city for clean

00:30:09.029 --> 00:30:15.640
air and I've also been confirmed by ce and at my um

00:30:15.650 --> 00:30:21.098
um city company saying that my bill usage is at a minimum

00:30:21.150 --> 00:30:24.799
when it's cold. I don't need to clear the heat when

00:30:24.809 --> 00:30:28.279
it's hot. I just, I just don't turn anything on because

00:30:28.289 --> 00:30:32.818
I just, I just cannot afford to pay it. And with this

00:30:32.828 --> 00:30:37.858
um opportunity today to voice out how we feel about

00:30:37.868 --> 00:30:42.229
the bill increase. Is it just, I'm grateful for it

00:30:42.239 --> 00:30:46.299
However, there is just we, we, we're all here, all

00:30:46.309 --> 00:30:50.549
of us here on this call trying to just make sense of

00:30:50.559 --> 00:30:53.289
what's going on. I know inflation is there. But my

00:30:53.299 --> 00:30:59.309
goodness, the rate increase at 22%. Uh uh uh you know

00:30:59.318 --> 00:31:04.739
um I all, all of us mostly that are calling. Don't

00:31:04.750 --> 00:31:08.348
make that much and, and cannot just can't, can't afford

00:31:08.358 --> 00:31:11.348
that pain, you know, that increase. So, thank you so

00:31:11.358 --> 00:31:14.358
much for letting us voice our opinion today. And I

00:31:14.368 --> 00:31:18.759
hope, um, Edison will take everything into consideration

00:31:18.769 --> 00:31:21.000
today, which I don't know if it's gonna happen. I'm

00:31:21.009 --> 00:31:25.930
I'm hoping it would. So. Thank you so much, Miss Bruce

00:31:25.939 --> 00:31:28.650
Thank you for taking the time to call in today. I do

00:31:28.660 --> 00:31:31.769
want to note that um I think there was an issue with

00:31:31.779 --> 00:31:35.799
your connection. So some of what you said was garbled

00:31:35.809 --> 00:31:37.858
and I'm not sure if the court reporter was able to

00:31:37.868 --> 00:31:41.088
take it down. I would encourage you if you want to

00:31:41.098 --> 00:31:45.729
provide comments um to either try calling in. We're

00:31:45.739 --> 00:31:48.699
also having a hearing today at 6 p.m. You could also

00:31:48.709 --> 00:31:53.269
submit written public comments online. Um And if you

00:31:53.279 --> 00:31:56.680
have a specific question related to your bill, I encourage

00:31:56.689 --> 00:31:59.519
you to reach out to the Edison billing representative

00:31:59.529 --> 00:32:03.029
Priscilla Medina or carry Gardner. If you're, if you

00:32:03.039 --> 00:32:05.880
have access to the webcast, their information is available

00:32:05.890 --> 00:32:10.368
on um on the webcast for this hearing. Ok. If you can

00:32:10.380 --> 00:32:13.150
hear me, may I just please have Terry Medina's contact

00:32:13.160 --> 00:32:18.039
number if you can hear me? Uh Pristina Medina, her

00:32:18.049 --> 00:32:28.709
phone number is 6268157214. I beg your pardon? 815

00:32:29.828 --> 00:32:36.039
7214. Thank you.

00:32:36.039 --> 00:32:38.500
Thank you so much.

00:32:38.500 --> 00:32:42.199
Uh operator, next speaker please.

00:32:42.199 --> 00:32:49.059
Our next speaker is Leanne. Your line is open.

00:32:49.059 --> 00:32:58.588
Hello, this is Leanne Armstrong Leannear MST Rong and

00:32:58.598 --> 00:33:04.189
I live in Pomona and I live in a, I'm concerned about

00:33:04.199 --> 00:33:11.400
the 22.6% increase for 2025. Um, I live in an all electric

00:33:11.410 --> 00:33:14.539
house which apparently California is doing that to

00:33:14.549 --> 00:33:20.078
every new builder now and the prices are already expensive

00:33:20.088 --> 00:33:26.049
I had my thermostat down to like 62 for a lot of

00:33:26.059 --> 00:33:30.000
the days at night and a lot of the days I've had

00:33:30.009 --> 00:33:34.799
it off and it's cold, you know, very uncomfortable

00:33:34.809 --> 00:33:39.529
We're not in Michigan, but still, I have a bill of

00:33:39.598 --> 00:33:45.750
350 to $400 and I'm trying to save money by not using

00:33:45.759 --> 00:33:51.729
my heater very much. And um to have that increase 22%

00:33:52.519 --> 00:33:58.130
it's going to cost as far as I'm concerned when I think

00:33:58.140 --> 00:34:06.239
of a 22.6% increase that increases my bill every single

00:34:06.250 --> 00:34:14.938
month by like $90. And I am on, I'm disabled. I'm on

00:34:14.949 --> 00:34:19.677
a fixed income. A me,

00:34:19.677 --> 00:34:22.949
let's see.

00:34:22.949 --> 00:34:26.579
The other thing I wanted to say is that this is a

00:34:26.590 --> 00:34:35.157
three year plan. However, I'm, I seem to see every

00:34:35.168 --> 00:34:39.028
year Southern California Edison requesting more money

00:34:39.418 --> 00:34:44.867
not just the 6% that they are planning this year. So

00:34:44.878 --> 00:34:49.528
what prevents them from increasing it? More than 6%

00:34:49.648 --> 00:34:57.947
in 2026 and 2027. So it's, this is getting out of hand

00:34:58.248 --> 00:35:03.119
and the only,

00:35:03.119 --> 00:35:09.378
I mean to go all this whole all electric thing is getting

00:35:09.389 --> 00:35:13.769
out of hand because the cars, everything, that's a

00:35:13.780 --> 00:35:18.219
whole another subject. But anyway, um that's my two

00:35:18.228 --> 00:35:23.878
cents and I thank you for letting me speak. Thank you

00:35:23.889 --> 00:35:26.269
Miss Armstrong

00:35:26.269 --> 00:35:30.679
operator. Next speaker please.

00:35:30.679 --> 00:35:37.519
Our next speaker is uh Tom, your line is open.

00:35:37.519 --> 00:35:41.250
Hello, this is Tom Wynn. Uh First name is Tom, last

00:35:41.260 --> 00:35:49.168
name is Wynn. I am from uh Lakewood. Um The first gentleman

00:35:49.179 --> 00:35:52.199
had a good point at the end of the billing. I was

00:35:52.208 --> 00:35:54.989
reminded of this when he spoke as well. Increases are

00:35:55.000 --> 00:35:57.590
coming, but there was no justification. There were

00:35:57.599 --> 00:36:01.199
no details as to where that increase was going to go

00:36:01.519 --> 00:36:05.090
There were no plans for improvement. There was no concrete

00:36:05.099 --> 00:36:07.668
way for us, the consumer, the customers and the people

00:36:07.679 --> 00:36:12.699
of the community to verify and confirm. Um That's one

00:36:12.708 --> 00:36:14.898
point another couple of things. I want to point out

00:36:14.909 --> 00:36:18.349
a couple of quick searches to looking at Socal Edison's

00:36:18.360 --> 00:36:23.579
revenue in 2023 alone. It was reported by statist and

00:36:23.590 --> 00:36:28.878
routers that Socal Edison accumulated $1.6 billion

00:36:28.889 --> 00:36:33.079
in revenue the year prior to that close to a billion

00:36:33.090 --> 00:36:38.050
maybe 607 $100 million. Ok. And now they're asking

00:36:38.059 --> 00:36:43.949
for rate increases yet again. Um So additional cost

00:36:43.958 --> 00:36:49.110
for what rate increases for improvements? What improvements

00:36:49.860 --> 00:36:52.039
What about the current infrastructure? None of that's

00:36:52.050 --> 00:36:54.659
really being discussed. It just kind of feels like

00:36:54.668 --> 00:36:57.429
we're being gouged again and again, taking advantage

00:36:57.438 --> 00:37:01.059
of and the fact that they're bringing it to you our

00:37:01.070 --> 00:37:04.820
leaders, our community

00:37:04.820 --> 00:37:09.250
and asking if it's allowable, you have the direct power

00:37:09.260 --> 00:37:13.208
authority to say no.

00:37:13.208 --> 00:37:16.090
At what point do we actually see the improvement? And

00:37:16.099 --> 00:37:18.889
how much longer are we going to be subject to these

00:37:18.898 --> 00:37:22.648
price increases? More like price gouging? You mentioned

00:37:22.659 --> 00:37:25.860
there are over 200 written public comments on the website

00:37:25.869 --> 00:37:28.938
You've got a long queue of callers calling in today

00:37:29.010 --> 00:37:31.099
I see that there are some people there in the public

00:37:31.110 --> 00:37:35.750
hearing today. It's very clear that the people of the

00:37:35.760 --> 00:37:39.929
different communities have spoken. They are 100% against

00:37:39.938 --> 00:37:43.898
this rate increase. So I don't know how much more do

00:37:43.909 --> 00:37:46.878
you need from your communities, your elected leaders

00:37:46.889 --> 00:37:51.530
your officials, your residents, every comment on that

00:37:51.539 --> 00:37:57.070
public hearing page is against the rate increase.

00:37:57.070 --> 00:38:01.110
Again, you have direct control of people's energy livelihoods

00:38:01.228 --> 00:38:05.398
and wallets passing this rate increase would be a huge

00:38:05.409 --> 00:38:08.539
setback for the people, the cities and the communities

00:38:08.550 --> 00:38:12.079
that you serve. The people have clearly spoken and

00:38:12.090 --> 00:38:14.809
voiced their opinion against this revenue increase

00:38:15.199 --> 00:38:18.329
and you have direct control to stop this and better

00:38:18.340 --> 00:38:23.050
the lives of your people. Please don't punish us the

00:38:23.059 --> 00:38:25.750
people who support you who vote for you who make these

00:38:25.760 --> 00:38:30.760
cities great over profit and corporate greed. Thank

00:38:30.769 --> 00:38:33.539
you for the time. I do encourage people to fact check

00:38:33.550 --> 00:38:36.728
that and take a look at Socal Edison's profits and

00:38:36.739 --> 00:38:39.739
really take that into consideration for why they're

00:38:39.750 --> 00:38:49.958
asking for even more money. Thank you,

00:38:49.958 --> 00:38:53.489
operator. Next speaker please.

00:38:53.489 --> 00:38:57.469
And the speaker is, uh Joseph, uh Siri, your line is

00:38:57.478 --> 00:38:59.628
open.

00:38:59.628 --> 00:39:04.239
Yes. Can you hear me? This is Joseph Sti.

00:39:04.239 --> 00:39:12.628
Yes. J Yeah, thanks JJ OS EPH

00:39:12.628 --> 00:39:18.179
and then capital Si Ry. I'm a resident of the last

00:39:18.188 --> 00:39:22.769
10 years here in Laguna Woods, uh, in Orange County

00:39:22.938 --> 00:39:28.849
And, uh, I'm responding to, uh, your comment that you

00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:33.530
made earlier that the rate increase would be $17 a

00:39:33.539 --> 00:39:37.550
month while having attended a meeting that southern

00:39:37.559 --> 00:39:41.188
California Edison had with the City of Laguna Woods

00:39:41.429 --> 00:39:46.679
Uh, last month, uh, their suggestion was a fixed charge

00:39:46.688 --> 00:39:50.969
rate of $41 a month. Uh The difference in those two

00:39:50.978 --> 00:39:55.398
figures is considerable over the year. You, you suggested

00:39:55.409 --> 00:39:59.590
the rates would go up by $204 for everyone. And, uh

00:39:59.599 --> 00:40:03.750
if their fixed rate charge is put into place, it would

00:40:03.760 --> 00:40:08.030
be $492 a month extra. Uh You've heard enough. I'm

00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:12.369
sure already among the people, I've read online as

00:40:12.378 --> 00:40:15.530
well as have called in that the rates are already uh

00:40:15.539 --> 00:40:19.750
exorbitant for many people. Uh, but I'm writing, uh

00:40:19.760 --> 00:40:24.030
and calling to tell you that, uh, uh, increasing and

00:40:24.039 --> 00:40:27.750
and creating a fixed charge of whether people use electricity

00:40:27.760 --> 00:40:32.739
or not is disadvantageous to not only uh low income

00:40:32.750 --> 00:40:37.489
people but anyone who's to conserve energy. I strongly

00:40:37.500 --> 00:40:42.030
suggest you think about ways to encourage people to

00:40:42.179 --> 00:40:46.869
one again, use less energy, create climate friendly

00:40:46.878 --> 00:40:51.168
alternatives. But by disadvantaging both low income

00:40:51.179 --> 00:40:55.619
people, as well as people who have invested in uh photovoltaics

00:40:55.628 --> 00:40:59.659
or solar hot water heaters. By disadvantages these

00:40:59.668 --> 00:41:02.750
people with fixed rate charges or increasing charges

00:41:02.760 --> 00:41:06.978
every month. It suggests to me that uh the eye is not

00:41:06.989 --> 00:41:13.389
on uh clean energy or reducing the cost of uh energy

00:41:13.398 --> 00:41:18.769
or reducing the cost of uh clean air. Uh and, and,

00:41:18.780 --> 00:41:21.510
and placing a burden on those least able to afford

00:41:21.519 --> 00:41:26.829
it. So I strongly suggest to uh, uh, do take a graduated

00:41:26.840 --> 00:41:31.438
approach if anything to an increase in cost, uh that

00:41:31.449 --> 00:41:35.239
you expand programs like care that you consider people

00:41:35.250 --> 00:41:40.679
who are using CPAP and those kinds of uh oxygen requiring

00:41:40.688 --> 00:41:46.958
uh uh medical aids uh be even have uh further reduce

00:41:46.969 --> 00:41:51.599
costs. But uh realize that uh when you're dealing with

00:41:51.610 --> 00:41:55.398
these graduated costs that we have now during the,

00:41:55.655 --> 00:41:59.764
when uh from noon to 6 p.m. or, or from 2 p.m.

00:41:59.773 --> 00:42:02.744
to 7 p.m. where you're paying more for your electricity

00:42:02.753 --> 00:42:05.875
People who are on oxygen or people who need a CPAP

00:42:05.925 --> 00:42:12.563
uh are still going to need to have a lower rate regardless

00:42:12.574 --> 00:42:15.664
of whether the demand for electricity is, is, is very

00:42:15.675 --> 00:42:18.293
high at those hours. We certainly understand that.

00:42:18.425 --> 00:42:22.445
But uh my closing remarks are Thank you for the ability

00:42:22.454 --> 00:42:27.769
to call that we have a need to reduce energy costs

00:42:27.780 --> 00:42:31.780
in California and not increase them. Thanks bye. Thank

00:42:31.789 --> 00:42:34.760
you very much, Mr Siri. And I also want to clarify

00:42:35.409 --> 00:42:39.219
that a proposal for a fixed charge is not being considered

00:42:39.228 --> 00:42:42.679
in this proceeding. And if you would like to provide

00:42:42.688 --> 00:42:47.398
public comment um in that proceeding, I encourage you

00:42:47.409 --> 00:42:50.829
to reach out to the public advisor. Um Their email

00:42:50.840 --> 00:42:55.909
address is public dot advisor at cpuc.ca.gov and they

00:42:55.918 --> 00:42:59.128
should be able to get you the relevant information

00:42:59.139 --> 00:43:01.519
regarding the proceeding where the fixed charge is

00:43:01.530 --> 00:43:06.429
being considered. Ok, operator, next speaker, please

00:43:22.570 --> 00:43:25.708
Hello operator. Our net, our net speaker is Patricia

00:43:25.719 --> 00:43:31.478
Whitfield. Your lines open. Hi, this is uh Trisha Whitfield

00:43:31.489 --> 00:43:39.329
Trishawhitfield. I'm calling from the city of Tulare

00:43:39.449 --> 00:43:44.500
Tulare. I am calling representing the city. Um The

00:43:44.510 --> 00:43:47.579
city of Tulare does not necessarily object to the proposed

00:43:47.590 --> 00:43:51.369
rate increases by S ce we run water sewer and trash

00:43:51.378 --> 00:43:54.519
utilities so we understand the cost to provide services

00:43:54.530 --> 00:43:58.090
and the need to periodically increase rates. The reason

00:43:58.099 --> 00:44:01.090
why I am calling is that the city has been dealing

00:44:01.099 --> 00:44:03.699
with a significant billing issue with regards to a

00:44:03.708 --> 00:44:08.228
meter totalization project with Edison. This is a difficult

00:44:08.239 --> 00:44:11.458
issue because it involves fuel cells. But in September

00:44:11.469 --> 00:44:15.469
2022 over a year and a half ago, Edison provided the

00:44:15.478 --> 00:44:18.510
city with a cost savings analysis that estimated annual

00:44:18.519 --> 00:44:23.539
savings in excess of $800,000 per year. The city has

00:44:23.550 --> 00:44:26.789
not yet seen these savings resulting in over a million

00:44:26.800 --> 00:44:30.489
dollars overbilled to date. We are responsible to our

00:44:30.500 --> 00:44:32.929
residents and we are having a hard time accepting the

00:44:32.938 --> 00:44:37.019
overbilling by Edison and the lack of answers and corrected

00:44:37.030 --> 00:44:41.969
billing. We have spoken to our local local Edison representatives

00:44:42.139 --> 00:44:46.208
We have also spoken to our local CPUC rep and expressed

00:44:46.219 --> 00:44:49.579
these concerns. Um We've been dealing with this for

00:44:49.590 --> 00:44:52.739
months and we are asking to get our issue resolved

00:44:55.820 --> 00:44:59.250
Thank you.

00:44:59.250 --> 00:44:59.989
Thank you, Miss.

00:44:59.998 --> 00:45:04.998
Whitfield operator. Next caller, please.

00:45:04.998 --> 00:45:08.668
Yes, our nest call. It comes from Drew Mercy. Your

00:45:08.678 --> 00:45:11.408
lines open.

00:45:11.408 --> 00:45:14.808
Hi. Uh this is Drew Mercy. I'm the executive director

00:45:14.818 --> 00:45:17.818
of the Antelope Valley Economic Development and Growth

00:45:17.828 --> 00:45:20.859
Enterprise, a regional Economic Development Corporation

00:45:20.868 --> 00:45:23.758
covering North Los Angeles County and Southeast Kern

00:45:23.769 --> 00:45:27.159
County. We're one of the fastest growing regions in

00:45:27.168 --> 00:45:30.168
California and one of the last areas within the L A

00:45:30.179 --> 00:45:33.107
region with room to grow. Currently, we have nearly

00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:36.598
30 million square feet of mortgage paying job, industrial

00:45:36.607 --> 00:45:39.897
space and development. Edison is a vital partner in

00:45:39.907 --> 00:45:42.509
ensuring these facilities are completed as quickly

00:45:42.518 --> 00:45:46.318
as possible to enable these jobs to commence. Our area

00:45:46.329 --> 00:45:49.878
consists of roughly 500,000 people and of those nearly

00:45:49.888 --> 00:45:53.678
100,000 leave every day to commute to the L A basin

00:45:53.689 --> 00:45:57.018
Often a 90 minute to two hour drive away the quality

00:45:57.028 --> 00:45:59.397
of life and environmental benefits to fast track the

00:45:59.407 --> 00:46:02.028
ability for these commuters to transition to local

00:46:02.037 --> 00:46:05.618
jobs cannot be overstated. Additionally, we are a major

00:46:05.627 --> 00:46:09.077
hub for aerospace projects vital to our national security

00:46:09.088 --> 00:46:12.478
as well as clean energy, vital to our future. The time

00:46:12.489 --> 00:46:15.058
to establish new electrical connections to projects

00:46:15.068 --> 00:46:18.377
like this is extremely long in California for a variety

00:46:18.389 --> 00:46:21.657
of legislative and regulatory reasons. When reviewing

00:46:21.669 --> 00:46:24.407
applications such as this, we ask that you take these

00:46:24.419 --> 00:46:27.978
issues into account and the need to ensure new job

00:46:27.989 --> 00:46:32.648
creation is prioritized. Thank you very much. Thank

00:46:32.657 --> 00:46:37.228
you, Mr Mercy Operator. Next caller, please. Our next

00:46:37.239 --> 00:46:43.017
caller is Carl as your line is open. Hi, can you hear

00:46:43.029 --> 00:46:46.437
me?

00:46:46.437 --> 00:46:52.139
Oh, ok. And uh we ready to talk.

00:46:52.139 --> 00:47:04.848
Um, I'm, I'm Carol OSHA. Carol.

00:47:04.848 --> 00:47:10.997
Hello? Oh, Carol

00:47:10.997 --> 00:47:17.628
Oshay, Os Tashay. I'm, I'm calling and sitting here

00:47:17.638 --> 00:47:21.668
listening to this and I just, you know, I did owe everybody

00:47:21.678 --> 00:47:26.418
that's called in so far as far as the, uh, as far

00:47:26.428 --> 00:47:31.958
as the um, um,

00:47:31.958 --> 00:47:38.357
uh, um, the cost of living rising and, and the bills

00:47:38.408 --> 00:47:44.517
just never quite catching up to our pay. We are on

00:47:44.527 --> 00:47:50.968
a fixed income right now. We just, um, retired. Um

00:47:51.107 --> 00:47:56.808
we don't make enough to apply for any of the, uh, we

00:47:56.819 --> 00:48:01.857
don't make enough, we make too much to apply for any

00:48:01.868 --> 00:48:05.819
of the care credit or anything like that. And we make

00:48:06.107 --> 00:48:12.099
uh, not enough to actually survive all the cost increases

00:48:12.107 --> 00:48:15.827
this year. At the beginning of the year, we got a social

00:48:15.838 --> 00:48:21.739
security raise and also our Medicare premium went up

00:48:21.747 --> 00:48:25.479
So we just broke even. This is how it's been for the

00:48:25.489 --> 00:48:29.688
last 20 years that we've been working. We just get

00:48:29.699 --> 00:48:33.489
a raise and all the cost of the price of everything

00:48:33.497 --> 00:48:39.077
up goes above our cost or, or we would get a little

00:48:39.088 --> 00:48:44.509
bit of a raise and very, not often at all. And when

00:48:44.517 --> 00:48:48.547
that happened, our medical insurance would go up and

00:48:48.558 --> 00:48:52.208
take that away from us. We just lived for 20 years

00:48:52.218 --> 00:48:55.418
like that with everything else going up. The groceries

00:48:55.428 --> 00:48:59.148
going up this last couple of years has been really

00:48:59.158 --> 00:49:04.259
hard on us. I'm sure it's been hard on everyone. Um

00:49:04.547 --> 00:49:10.069
the electric company is making enough money right now

00:49:10.077 --> 00:49:13.789
I don't think we are making enough money right now

00:49:13.797 --> 00:49:17.058
As soon as we can get a foot up. I wouldn't mind

00:49:17.068 --> 00:49:20.667
helping the, the electric company out. But right now

00:49:20.917 --> 00:49:25.659
it's the people that are suffering and, um, you know

00:49:25.667 --> 00:49:32.489
the, the ce is profiting, profiting, everyone's profiting

00:49:32.498 --> 00:49:36.938
but the people that are working. So that's my opinion

00:49:36.948 --> 00:49:40.298
I do not think that they should raise it again. And

00:49:40.308 --> 00:49:48.368
also, I'm not sure if that.

00:49:48.368 --> 00:49:52.378
Ok, so that's it. Goodbye. Thank you, Miss Aa. She

00:49:53.878 --> 00:49:58.858
uh, operator. Next speaker, please. Our next speaker

00:49:58.868 --> 00:50:03.608
is Michelle Adams. Your line is open. Yes, this is

00:50:03.618 --> 00:50:11.888
Michelle Adams M IC Hele. Ad am si agree with all the

00:50:11.899 --> 00:50:15.899
former speakers who are against this. I strenuously

00:50:15.909 --> 00:50:21.438
object to s ce s outrageous and ubiquitous requests

00:50:21.448 --> 00:50:28.058
for yet another rate increase. The 2025 A for 22.6%

00:50:28.597 --> 00:50:32.167
increase is especially galling as the woman before

00:50:32.178 --> 00:50:38.358
said, every year, our expenses go up. Excuse me. Um

00:50:38.388 --> 00:50:43.327
I live in a continually darkened apartment and I never

00:50:43.339 --> 00:50:46.948
turn on my heater. I do not have TV, internet Wi Fi

00:50:46.998 --> 00:50:51.638
or streaming and I do not have air conditioning. I

00:50:51.649 --> 00:50:56.159
have a landline phone which AT&T is now saying they

00:50:56.537 --> 00:51:02.399
are threatening to take away. And um I'm confused and

00:51:02.409 --> 00:51:06.209
wondering if somehow this rate increase is related

00:51:06.219 --> 00:51:11.118
to that because if they succeed, they're forcing more

00:51:11.128 --> 00:51:18.248
people onto the grid to drop power. And um I don't

00:51:18.258 --> 00:51:21.888
understand how that's supposed to help the environment

00:51:21.899 --> 00:51:26.948
or help us use less energy. And I just think this is

00:51:26.959 --> 00:51:33.428
an outrageous request. Thank you.

00:51:33.428 --> 00:51:35.589
Thank you for taking the time to call in Miss Adams

00:51:35.818 --> 00:51:41.347
operator. Next caller, please.

00:51:41.347 --> 00:51:46.048
Yes, our next caller is Vina Doshi. Your line is open

00:51:47.847 --> 00:51:53.368
Yeah, hi. Can you hear me? Yes, I can. Ok. Hi. My

00:51:53.378 --> 00:51:57.128
name is Tina Doshi. I'm in from La Habra, B as in

00:51:57.138 --> 00:52:04.938
boy, in a Doshi, D as in David Os H I. And

00:52:04.948 --> 00:52:08.808
as everyone else is mentioning, of course, the price

00:52:08.818 --> 00:52:12.667
has skyrocketed. I know just a few years back. I actually

00:52:12.678 --> 00:52:17.868
enrolled in the uh what do you call those uh bi monthly

00:52:17.878 --> 00:52:22.048
budget assistance? And if I went over a certain amount

00:52:22.058 --> 00:52:24.698
of dollars, I'd get a notification and we were always

00:52:24.709 --> 00:52:27.888
underneath that amount. So I never had to worry. And

00:52:27.899 --> 00:52:31.628
then it feel felt like overnight the bill went up.

00:52:31.678 --> 00:52:34.878
And so when I called s ce up, they told me that

00:52:35.399 --> 00:52:37.948
you know, the price, the, the rate has increased. So

00:52:37.959 --> 00:52:42.358
I'm like, ok, and over the past few years, it's like

00:52:42.568 --> 00:52:46.409
more than doubled the amount. And I'm looking at one

00:52:46.417 --> 00:52:49.448
of the bills, you know, back from even 21 when it was

00:52:49.459 --> 00:52:53.508
already over the amount of what we used to pay and

00:52:53.517 --> 00:52:56.138
just a kilowatt charges, you know, you're talking about

00:52:56.149 --> 00:53:00.608
going from 23 cents to 33 cents for tier one and then

00:53:00.618 --> 00:53:06.068
from 29 cents to 43 cents for tier two. And it's just

00:53:06.077 --> 00:53:11.469
my husband and I, and up until even COVID, like we

00:53:11.477 --> 00:53:15.209
weren't even in the house, we were both working. So

00:53:15.279 --> 00:53:20.938
no ac and we barely ever use the heater. We would use

00:53:20.948 --> 00:53:24.058
like blankets at night time when it would be cold.

00:53:24.498 --> 00:53:31.128
So I don't understand how they're urging us

00:53:31.128 --> 00:53:36.439
enormous amount of money per kilowatt when we hardly

00:53:36.449 --> 00:53:40.368
even use electricity. Just the baseline costs have

00:53:40.378 --> 00:53:44.319
increased so much. It's just ridiculous. Uh I don't

00:53:44.329 --> 00:53:46.458
know how they're doing all these breakdowns in, in

00:53:46.468 --> 00:53:49.508
in my report. All I see is tier one, tier two, tier

00:53:49.518 --> 00:53:53.608
one, tier two and I just see these enormous dollar

00:53:53.618 --> 00:53:55.537
amounts in there. And then by the time I'm done with

00:53:55.547 --> 00:53:58.768
my bill, it's like, where did this come from when we

00:53:58.777 --> 00:54:01.718
don't even use

00:54:01.718 --> 00:54:06.228
electricity for the majority of the day?

00:54:06.228 --> 00:54:10.998
That's my consent. Thank you. Thank you, Miss Doshi

00:54:11.907 --> 00:54:16.319
operator. Next caller, please.

00:54:16.319 --> 00:54:19.407
Our next Caller is Peter Williams. Your line is open

00:54:23.787 --> 00:54:30.248
Hello, my name is Peter Williams pe T er Willi A MS

00:54:31.277 --> 00:54:38.018
from Long Beach. Uh I just wanted to submit my um official

00:54:38.179 --> 00:54:43.768
oral objection to the rate increase.

00:54:43.768 --> 00:54:47.088
The bills are already too high. Inflation is high and

00:54:47.098 --> 00:54:51.739
no one can afford an increase. Um My bill has already

00:54:51.748 --> 00:54:54.478
doubled, like many people have said in the past five

00:54:54.489 --> 00:54:58.037
years. So there has been an increase clearly and now

00:54:58.047 --> 00:55:01.949
they want an official approved increase and I vote

00:55:01.958 --> 00:55:05.258
No, I'm sure most on this line vote. No. So we hope

00:55:05.268 --> 00:55:08.939
that you all the powers that be judges and judicial

00:55:08.949 --> 00:55:13.739
people can also vote. No and not pass this. Thank you

00:55:13.748 --> 00:55:17.598
very much. That is my piece.

00:55:17.598 --> 00:55:23.378
Thank you, Mr Williams operator. Next caller,

00:55:23.378 --> 00:55:28.088
our next call, I believe it comes from uh sundeep your

00:55:28.098 --> 00:55:32.679
lines open. Oh, hi. Can you hear me?

00:55:32.679 --> 00:55:37.618
Yes, I can. Ok. This is Sandeep Kapil Sand as in daddy

00:55:37.628 --> 00:55:43.059
eep as in Peter. Last name is Kkap as in Peter Il

00:55:43.268 --> 00:55:49.608
I live in Corona, California and um I sympathize, sorry

00:55:49.618 --> 00:55:52.739
I sympathize with everybody who had given the comments

00:55:52.748 --> 00:55:56.768
prior to me joining the call. But I wanted to bring

00:55:56.777 --> 00:55:59.647
up one point which may have been overlooked or this

00:55:59.657 --> 00:56:03.179
is a comparative point of view. I lived in Minnesota

00:56:03.189 --> 00:56:05.699
for 30 years and then over the last few years, I moved

00:56:05.708 --> 00:56:11.027
to California and I am really amazed at the rate differences

00:56:11.037 --> 00:56:14.218
in electricity in California, when we have so much

00:56:14.228 --> 00:56:17.429
of solar power going on in almost every new construction

00:56:17.699 --> 00:56:24.388
I was paying around five cents per kilowatt hour for

00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:29.777
off peak rate. And comparatively here, I'm paying 35

00:56:29.787 --> 00:56:35.088
cents for off peak hour. Then peak peak time, I'm paying

00:56:35.098 --> 00:56:39.478
52 cents versus 11.5 cents that I was paying in Minnesota

00:56:39.547 --> 00:56:42.559
So my question is, what is Edison doing? Are they gold

00:56:42.569 --> 00:56:45.329
plating all the machines to generate electricity or

00:56:45.338 --> 00:56:47.878
are they using platinum to create this electricity

00:56:47.888 --> 00:56:52.248
Why is there five times to seven times price difference

00:56:52.258 --> 00:56:54.907
between Minnesota and California? Can anybody explain

00:56:54.917 --> 00:57:01.417
me that? That's my two cents. Please go ahead.

00:57:01.417 --> 00:57:03.397
Thank you for calling to provide your comments, Mr

00:57:03.407 --> 00:57:07.108
Keppel

00:57:07.108 --> 00:57:10.508
operator. Next caller, please.

00:57:10.508 --> 00:57:14.417
Thank you. And as a reminder if you would like to make

00:57:14.429 --> 00:57:19.258
a comment, please press Star one on your phone. Please

00:57:19.268 --> 00:57:22.297
ensure that it's unmuted and record your name at the

00:57:22.309 --> 00:57:24.978
prompt again. If you would like to make a comment,

00:57:25.069 --> 00:57:29.518
please press star one. Annette's comment comes from

00:57:29.787 --> 00:57:35.647
Suzanne Corbin your lines open. This is Suzanne Corbin

00:57:35.657 --> 00:57:43.978
Suzannecorbin and I am from Chino and I'm calling,

00:57:43.989 --> 00:57:46.297
I agree with every everything that's been said by everybody

00:57:46.309 --> 00:57:52.508
else. I am opposed to the scasc er increase. Um There

00:57:52.518 --> 00:57:55.777
was mentioned this mention of approved memorandum accounts

00:57:56.018 --> 00:57:58.189
and I want to know why is that owed to the S

00:57:58.199 --> 00:58:02.518
ce? Um the state of California has pushed the installation

00:58:02.527 --> 00:58:06.787
of solar panels supposedly to save energy. And I would

00:58:06.797 --> 00:58:09.449
imagine that that's probably part of the reason why

00:58:09.718 --> 00:58:14.348
uh Southern California Edison is not getting the, um

00:58:17.297 --> 00:58:20.118
money that they would normally be getting from the

00:58:20.128 --> 00:58:23.718
people. And I don't think that it's, it's fair that

00:58:23.809 --> 00:58:27.018
those of us who don't have the solar or don't want

00:58:27.027 --> 00:58:33.189
solar are being punished. Um, this 22% 22.6% increase

00:58:33.647 --> 00:58:39.088
uh, for the 1.895 billion increase is ridiculous. I

00:58:39.098 --> 00:58:41.878
mean, that's absolutely ridiculous. And, and it's not

00:58:42.309 --> 00:58:47.268
um, fair to us as people that live in California for

00:58:47.277 --> 00:58:51.248
that to be put on us. They talked about, uh, it talks

00:58:51.258 --> 00:58:54.458
about the, uh, the change to the wildfire liability

00:58:54.468 --> 00:58:59.708
insurance portion is authorized. Um, as far as I'm

00:58:59.718 --> 00:59:02.689
concerned, ce ought to go after Gavin Newsom and our

00:59:02.699 --> 00:59:05.657
legislator, they've got all, they've got billions of

00:59:05.667 --> 00:59:10.429
money in accounts and that money is supposed to be

00:59:10.439 --> 00:59:13.689
used to take care of the state of California and that

00:59:13.699 --> 00:59:18.018
should include taking care of our forest. Um, the amount

00:59:18.027 --> 00:59:22.417
that we're paying is absolutely crazy. People are having

00:59:22.429 --> 00:59:24.758
to make, uh, especially older people are having to

00:59:24.768 --> 00:59:30.569
make decisions about their medical. Am I done their

00:59:30.579 --> 00:59:34.047
medical, their insurance? Their, uh, groceries, their

00:59:34.059 --> 00:59:37.527
heating? Um, we can't afford, I mean, we can't afford

00:59:37.537 --> 00:59:40.628
heating. We get to turn our heat on for two hours every

00:59:40.638 --> 00:59:44.739
morning and then we turn it off. Um, I don't know why

00:59:44.748 --> 00:59:47.858
there's, oh, and why are, why are we being pushed to

00:59:47.868 --> 00:59:51.657
reveal people's income? Ok. That's not fair to us either

00:59:51.667 --> 00:59:54.699
It's not, it, it is not Southern California Edison's

00:59:54.708 --> 00:59:58.838
business. Uh for, for what kind of income we have coming

00:59:58.848 --> 01:00:02.579
in and it's not fair to look at our income to decide

01:00:02.588 --> 01:00:05.667
what rate we're going to be paying. So I think that

01:00:05.679 --> 01:00:12.647
that's like totally garbage and

01:00:12.647 --> 01:00:17.018
ok, like I said, solar, solar is supposed to make it

01:00:17.118 --> 01:00:22.797
uh our um our electoral bills inexpensive but at the

01:00:22.809 --> 01:00:25.638
rate that they're going, they they can't afford it

01:00:25.647 --> 01:00:29.118
So I think it's not fair that we had to pay it

01:00:35.858 --> 01:00:41.638
Ok. Am I done?

01:00:41.638 --> 01:00:44.537
Yeah,

01:00:44.537 --> 01:00:49.508
thank you, Miss Corbin. Am I I am I done and if

01:00:49.518 --> 01:00:51.968
my time was up or not, so I did not hear the

01:00:51.978 --> 01:00:56.868
time if you have any last remarks.

01:00:56.868 --> 01:01:03.218
Oh, there it went, it went. So anyway, II I am in

01:01:03.228 --> 01:01:07.579
total disagreement for the right raise.

01:01:07.579 --> 01:01:09.848
Thank you for taking the time to attend the hearing

01:01:09.858 --> 01:01:12.407
today and to provide comment, we really appreciate

01:01:12.417 --> 01:01:18.748
it. Um Operator next caller, please.

01:01:18.748 --> 01:01:21.888
Our next caller comes from Letha Jackson. Your line

01:01:21.897 --> 01:01:34.179
is open.

01:01:34.179 --> 01:01:45.287
Letha Jackson, your line is open.

01:01:45.287 --> 01:01:49.748
I'll take. The next question comes from

01:01:49.748 --> 01:01:55.258
a young Lee. Your line is open. Yes, ma'am. Yes, it's

01:01:55.268 --> 01:01:59.059
me H LE

01:01:59.059 --> 01:02:05.288
Hello. Yes, you may go ahead. Oh, I am, I am a

01:02:05.298 --> 01:02:12.178
disability and I uh my uh condition uh health condition

01:02:12.317 --> 01:02:17.528
Uh uh uh not. Well, so I need the uh I use

01:02:17.538 --> 01:02:23.909
uh uh uh elected a lot because

01:02:23.909 --> 01:02:27.768
I have the vertigo and I have a collapse all the time

01:02:27.778 --> 01:02:32.758
So my view is too high. I don't have enough money to

01:02:32.768 --> 01:02:37.097
pay the bill. So that's why I would like to call and

01:02:37.909 --> 01:02:45.119
apply for the uh for my bill. So thank you for that

01:02:45.129 --> 01:02:51.087
that my, my request. Thank you. Thank you, MS Lee.

01:02:51.097 --> 01:02:56.728
Um Are you able to take down a phone number?

01:02:56.728 --> 01:02:59.278
Huh?

01:02:59.278 --> 01:03:02.659
Um because there are some people that you can contact

01:03:02.669 --> 01:03:07.337
if you want to call to apply for a discount. Can I

01:03:07.347 --> 01:03:12.218
give you the phone number um, to call Carry Gardner

01:03:12.698 --> 01:03:14.698
and can I give you her phone number? You can give her

01:03:14.708 --> 01:03:21.847
a call about your account. Her number is 91.

01:03:21.847 --> 01:03:28.409
Ok. Ok. Excuse me. Ok. Her, her name is Carrie Gardner

01:03:28.438 --> 01:03:34.218
and her number is 909

01:03:34.218 --> 01:03:48.228
773 2773. Yes, and then 2269. Good night. Oh, Teddy

01:03:49.748 --> 01:03:58.399
Ok. Ok. Uh ok. Can you that, uh can you smell it

01:03:58.409 --> 01:04:05.028
Is Kar I Kri

01:04:05.028 --> 01:04:09.869
D er A Yeah.

01:04:09.869 --> 01:04:21.528
Ok. Ok. Uh 9097732269. Yes, you got it. Ok, thank you

01:04:21.538 --> 01:04:25.239
Thank you. You're welcome. Ok, so the so that the the

01:04:25.248 --> 01:04:29.239
card that uh for me that uh that's it today, right

01:04:30.419 --> 01:04:36.389
Uh Yes. Ok, thank you. Thank you. Um operate next caller

01:04:36.399 --> 01:04:40.857
please. Our next call I believe is from Sandy Lativa

01:04:43.978 --> 01:04:49.698
Hi. Yes, it's uh, I'm Sandy Lasva. Uh Yes, I want to

01:04:49.708 --> 01:04:55.169
say, I don't know why I'm living hater California and

01:04:55.178 --> 01:04:58.468
I have seven years to live in the same place in the

01:04:58.478 --> 01:05:01.958
same apartment. I'm not living house and I don't know

01:05:01.968 --> 01:05:06.649
why my bill is increased, increased, increased. And

01:05:06.659 --> 01:05:12.159
I work and I'm scared the summer is coming and I'm

01:05:12.169 --> 01:05:16.758
scared to turn off, turn on the ac and I have two

01:05:16.768 --> 01:05:23.399
boys and I'm so scared because I can't pay this bill

01:05:23.409 --> 01:05:27.989
It's too much every time. I don't know why. Thank you

01:05:27.998 --> 01:05:30.659
so much.

01:05:30.659 --> 01:05:33.857
Thank you for taking the time to call in um, operator

01:05:33.869 --> 01:05:47.998
Next caller, please.

01:05:47.998 --> 01:06:05.989
Operator, can we have the next caller, please?

01:06:05.989 --> 01:06:11.968
Our next color comes from being Kadena. Your lines

01:06:11.978 --> 01:06:15.448
open.

01:06:15.448 --> 01:06:18.379
Good afternoon everyone. Ben Castaneda, a resident

01:06:18.389 --> 01:06:24.268
of Fullerton California. Uh se wants to obviously increase

01:06:25.018 --> 01:06:29.208
the rates. I'm calling to object to the rate increase

01:06:29.468 --> 01:06:33.258
I have solar panels. I do everything I can to um, put

01:06:33.268 --> 01:06:36.268
something back to the grid. Solar panels are sold to

01:06:36.278 --> 01:06:38.998
Californians as to save money and so forth. And here

01:06:39.008 --> 01:06:41.629
we are that somehow some way they're going to get the

01:06:41.639 --> 01:06:45.518
money. And so I just strongly object to the increase

01:06:45.528 --> 01:06:49.307
We're already paying fixed funds for the wildfire fund

01:06:49.317 --> 01:06:53.528
we're paying for the uh Sano Decommissioning. I mean

01:06:53.538 --> 01:06:56.998
what more we're going to be paying for uh we know we

01:06:57.087 --> 01:07:01.357
here in California, we, we try to look at ways to save

01:07:01.369 --> 01:07:04.748
money, lower costs and so forth. But yet here we are

01:07:04.758 --> 01:07:07.478
Edison is going to want to take that money either way

01:07:07.489 --> 01:07:10.347
So I strongly object. Thank you very much. Have a great

01:07:10.357 --> 01:07:15.528
day. Thank you, Mr Castaneda. Um Operator, next caller

01:07:15.538 --> 01:07:19.317
please.

01:07:19.317 --> 01:07:27.149
Yes, our next call comes from Lisa Jackson. Your lines

01:07:27.159 --> 01:07:31.587
open. Hello? Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you

01:07:31.728 --> 01:07:36.708
Hi, my name is Letha Leth a last name Jackson J AC

01:07:36.718 --> 01:07:40.768
Kson. And I live in the Antelope Valley in Lancaster

01:07:40.778 --> 01:07:48.327
California where they have the um owned energy company

01:07:48.597 --> 01:07:53.169
and I was paying double, I was paying to Lancaster

01:07:53.178 --> 01:07:57.347
Choice Energy, the, the same amount that I was paying

01:07:57.357 --> 01:08:03.528
to Edison. So I went on um

01:08:03.528 --> 01:08:08.337
level pay. Um and I'm also um have medical baseline

01:08:08.347 --> 01:08:15.489
I'm on oxygen and I think 22% is excessive right now

01:08:15.498 --> 01:08:19.278
I'm on a level pay plan and I'm, I'm, I'm agreeing

01:08:19.288 --> 01:08:24.948
with everybody that's just excessive um to pay, but

01:08:24.958 --> 01:08:29.538
I'm, I um I wish you guys would vote. No for that

01:08:29.548 --> 01:08:33.978
That's just too much for I'm retired and like I said

01:08:33.989 --> 01:08:38.448
I'm on medical baseline and I, I try, I'm confused

01:08:38.458 --> 01:08:41.827
with the solar panels and doing all of that and the

01:08:41.837 --> 01:08:45.768
kilowatt, I try to understand the two companies. So

01:08:45.778 --> 01:08:48.758
I, I was getting double billed by both companies and

01:08:48.768 --> 01:08:54.739
I can't get a clear understanding um um you know, the

01:08:54.748 --> 01:09:00.889
the grid, what's better. So, um I just say right now

01:09:00.899 --> 01:09:05.067
in my situation, I am, you know, like disabled on medical

01:09:05.077 --> 01:09:08.649
baseline, which I'm, I'm using all of that, but I can't

01:09:08.659 --> 01:09:12.768
afford, I like everybody else. I'm caught in the, in

01:09:12.778 --> 01:09:17.968
in the middle. I can't afford to, to pay more than

01:09:17.978 --> 01:09:22.948
I'm paying, you know, and that's, that's my comment

01:09:26.369 --> 01:09:28.317
Thank you for taking the time to call in today, Miss

01:09:28.327 --> 01:09:30.399
Jackson

01:09:30.399 --> 01:09:34.278
operator. Next caller,

01:09:34.278 --> 01:09:41.198
uh, one moment for the next caller

01:09:41.198 --> 01:09:45.198
are those colors comes from, oh, I'm sorry. Oh, I was

01:09:45.208 --> 01:09:47.428
just about to say if anyone else is on the line who

01:09:47.438 --> 01:09:50.438
would like to speak, who has not yet spoken. Please

01:09:50.448 --> 01:09:56.198
remember to press star one.

01:09:56.198 --> 01:10:03.998
Go ahead. I thank you. Uh, our next color is,

01:10:03.998 --> 01:10:08.307
I believe it's, ah, Lucy, your lines open. Yes. Uh

01:10:08.317 --> 01:10:13.119
this is Lucille Haines and I'm calling to, uh, adamantly

01:10:13.129 --> 01:10:18.597
protest this rate hike. I'm a senior citizen on a fixed

01:10:18.607 --> 01:10:23.438
income and my bill has doubled almost completely. Uh

01:10:23.448 --> 01:10:27.557
in the last year. I love California and I don't really

01:10:27.567 --> 01:10:30.938
want to move, but rates are a lot lower in other states

01:10:31.619 --> 01:10:35.379
Um, everything in the state has already increased by

01:10:35.389 --> 01:10:39.077
leaps and bounds and it's putting financial burden

01:10:39.087 --> 01:10:43.607
and pressure, especially on senior citizens. So I don't

01:10:43.619 --> 01:10:48.438
um, I don't know why we need to go through this when

01:10:48.448 --> 01:10:53.149
other states are far behind us. Everything in California

01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:57.028
has increased. And I certainly agree with everyone

01:10:57.038 --> 01:11:01.288
that has called. I think that we are gouged enough

01:11:01.298 --> 01:11:06.067
by the Edison Company and other companies and we're

01:11:06.077 --> 01:11:11.239
tired with this. So that's my input. Thank you very

01:11:11.248 --> 01:11:13.307
much.

01:11:13.307 --> 01:11:18.847
Thank you, Miss Hane operator. Next call, our next

01:11:18.857 --> 01:11:24.659
call comes from, do your line is open? Ok. Hi, how

01:11:24.669 --> 01:11:28.239
are you today? Uh, this is DNA Court. Um, I'm here

01:11:28.248 --> 01:11:32.357
in Long Beach at the central villages at Cabre and

01:11:32.369 --> 01:11:35.409
I agree with everyone, you know, uh, the increase of

01:11:35.419 --> 01:11:39.938
uh, electric, you know, bills or, uh, a decrease both

01:11:39.948 --> 01:11:42.458
how they've been going about it. It's very well, thank

01:11:42.468 --> 01:11:46.879
you, please. As for my situation, I do, I'm not on

01:11:47.337 --> 01:11:50.698
medical base but I do have a care plan for medical

01:11:50.708 --> 01:11:55.508
reasons and I'm not elderly, uh, 65 years of age. No

01:11:55.518 --> 01:12:03.248
I'm not 72 years old. I am under 65.

01:12:03.248 --> 01:12:07.649
I still have medicine as well and I would want to,

01:12:07.659 --> 01:12:11.278
what I want to do is prefer not to have an increased

01:12:11.288 --> 01:12:15.129
electric wi, uh, for, for bills is because it seems

01:12:15.139 --> 01:12:19.399
like my building, how it's connected electrically is

01:12:19.409 --> 01:12:22.919
that I get a lot of search even though my bill is

01:12:22.928 --> 01:12:26.958
regulated for, uh, uh, a minimum electric amount of

01:12:26.968 --> 01:12:30.248
bill. But it seems like those that are, that they housed

01:12:30.258 --> 01:12:33.728
for India and I have nothing against them or the other

01:12:33.739 --> 01:12:37.018
ones, uh, coming out. I need help from the system but

01:12:37.028 --> 01:12:40.278
a lot of my, a little bit of wattage or whatever. They

01:12:40.288 --> 01:12:43.577
they don't have much electric and there's, the building

01:12:43.587 --> 01:12:47.077
seems like it's, uh, like a generator using off from

01:12:47.087 --> 01:12:50.478
the other generator. I, I'm the one that pays the electric

01:12:50.489 --> 01:12:54.178
bill and some of the tenants don't. But I, I could

01:12:54.188 --> 01:12:57.028
I could, some of their wattage, we heard things like

01:12:57.038 --> 01:12:59.807
that. I believe they are to work on their, just their

01:13:00.028 --> 01:13:04.409
their wattage and get that paid and uh make sure their

01:13:04.419 --> 01:13:09.347
equipment outside. Yes, is always functioning. Maybe

01:13:09.357 --> 01:13:13.337
hopefully can uh you know, tax cover, pay the decision

01:13:13.458 --> 01:13:18.248
that uh the workers. Thank you, please.

01:13:18.248 --> 01:13:21.698
Thank you, Miss, I think there were portions of your

01:13:21.708 --> 01:13:25.639
comments that were difficult to hear. Um And I'm not

01:13:25.649 --> 01:13:28.077
sure that the court reporter was able to take down

01:13:28.087 --> 01:13:32.268
everything that was said. So I encourage you if you

01:13:32.278 --> 01:13:35.837
want to make sure that your comments are clearly presented

01:13:35.847 --> 01:13:38.458
to the commission for you to submit written public

01:13:38.468 --> 01:13:42.669
comments on the docket card for this proceeding. Um

01:13:42.678 --> 01:13:46.458
Operator, next caller, please.

01:13:46.458 --> 01:13:50.379
Thank you. And it's time we have no additional and

01:13:50.389 --> 01:13:52.438
it's time we have no additional callers on the line

01:13:54.419 --> 01:13:57.758
Ok. You want me to hang up or just listen to the

01:13:57.768 --> 01:14:00.399
it. Uh

01:14:00.399 --> 01:14:04.379
um Thank you for your comments, MS Coy. I um you can

01:14:04.389 --> 01:14:07.379
stay on the line but um please mute yourself. Thank

01:14:07.389 --> 01:14:10.538
you.

01:14:10.538 --> 01:14:12.649
Ok. Operator. Were you saying that there was no one

01:14:12.659 --> 01:14:16.409
else? We just had somebody queue up. We just had somebody

01:14:16.419 --> 01:14:19.478
queue up now, Paul,

01:14:19.478 --> 01:14:22.458
you may go ahead. Your line is open.

01:14:22.458 --> 01:14:25.899
Yes, good afternoon. My name is Paul Sagger. I live

01:14:25.909 --> 01:14:30.228
in Arcadia and I'm calling to speak against the proposed

01:14:30.239 --> 01:14:33.928
rate increase from southern California. Edison. Many

01:14:33.938 --> 01:14:36.778
people have commented specific to their own situation

01:14:37.239 --> 01:14:40.508
Mine is a more general comment. I've lived in many

01:14:40.518 --> 01:14:44.448
different states over the years and I have to say that

01:14:45.129 --> 01:14:48.548
see is the worst run public utility I have ever seen

01:14:49.498 --> 01:14:53.218
It's one rate increase after another with no attempt

01:14:53.228 --> 01:14:56.438
to control costs. On the other side of the ledger,

01:14:58.258 --> 01:15:01.989
for example, there's no economy of scale at S ce with

01:15:01.998 --> 01:15:06.087
a massive service area. Rates are about the highest

01:15:06.097 --> 01:15:09.857
in the United States. When the exact opposite should

01:15:09.869 --> 01:15:14.619
be true. A larger service area could result in lower

01:15:14.629 --> 01:15:16.919
rates.

01:15:16.919 --> 01:15:20.659
Ns ce comes up with ridiculous reasons for raising

01:15:20.669 --> 01:15:24.938
rates such as well. Additional money is needed to expand

01:15:24.948 --> 01:15:29.268
into a new service area failing to take into account

01:15:29.528 --> 01:15:32.057
all of the additional customers in the new service

01:15:32.067 --> 01:15:35.629
area which should actually serve to bring rates down

01:15:35.837 --> 01:15:40.968
not ratchet them up. C is strictly reactive and never

01:15:40.978 --> 01:15:46.149
proactive case in point, the wildfire fund charge and

01:15:46.159 --> 01:15:50.097
fixed recovery charge on every bill. Ratepayers always

01:15:50.107 --> 01:15:54.018
wind up paying for sees mistakes and lack of foresight

01:15:55.307 --> 01:15:59.008
Then all of the above incompetence is then compounded

01:15:59.208 --> 01:16:03.678
by the useless CPUC which simply rubber stamps. Every

01:16:03.688 --> 01:16:08.008
rate increase requested by S ce the insanity has to

01:16:08.018 --> 01:16:12.419
stop somewhere and hopefully it stops here. Thank you

01:16:12.428 --> 01:16:14.978
very much.

01:16:14.978 --> 01:16:18.119
Thank you, Miss Mister Skater, uh operator. Next caller

01:16:19.798 --> 01:16:21.739
and we have no additional callers on the line at this

01:16:21.748 --> 01:16:24.057
time. But again, if you would like to make a comment

01:16:24.067 --> 01:16:27.178
please unmute your phone, press star one and record

01:16:27.188 --> 01:16:35.708
your first and last name slowly and clearly,

01:16:35.708 --> 01:16:37.919
it will just give it one minute in case anyone else

01:16:38.669 --> 01:16:45.998
wants to get into the queue.

01:16:45.998 --> 01:16:49.097
Our next caller is Diane Mendoza. You may go ahead

01:16:49.998 --> 01:16:58.748
Hi, my name is Diane Mendoza. Dia Nemendoz A, I'm quite

01:16:58.758 --> 01:17:03.528
confused because the email that I got today was reflecting

01:17:03.538 --> 01:17:10.607
AT&T regarding, um, the landlines of California that

01:17:10.619 --> 01:17:13.728
they would be putting it down to rest and I'm like

01:17:13.919 --> 01:17:21.369
no, I'm disabled. Um, and I'm on social security income

01:17:21.587 --> 01:17:26.817
I'm a widow, um, and disabled and to have that taken

01:17:26.827 --> 01:17:33.357
down when I have spotty um, areas in my home regarding

01:17:33.369 --> 01:17:39.218
my cell. So to take that down would be really unrealistic

01:17:39.228 --> 01:17:43.538
to especially, um, older folks out here in California

01:17:43.827 --> 01:17:47.659
Now, if it's regarding this hearing is regarding the

01:17:47.669 --> 01:17:52.178
um, utilities, yes, utility bills have increased quite

01:17:52.188 --> 01:17:56.557
some time and I'm concerned about that as well even

01:17:56.567 --> 01:18:00.758
though I have health issues. And unfortunately I have

01:18:00.768 --> 01:18:05.278
searched for quite some time, um, to have somebody

01:18:05.288 --> 01:18:11.198
come out here and to insulate my home. I own a 1956

01:18:11.208 --> 01:18:17.478
home and I have tried to reach out to get um, someone

01:18:17.489 --> 01:18:22.958
to come out here for a fixed low income um to be

01:18:22.968 --> 01:18:27.758
able to um help me with this situation. I also have

01:18:27.768 --> 01:18:31.728
old windows that I could literally hear my neighbors

01:18:31.847 --> 01:18:37.178
from one bedroom to another outside. So please correct

01:18:37.188 --> 01:18:40.538
me if I'm wrong. Are we talking about at and t regarding

01:18:40.548 --> 01:18:45.298
the phone lines? Are we talking about

01:18:45.298 --> 01:18:48.198
the utility bills?

01:18:48.198 --> 01:18:52.268
Today's hearing is regarding Southern California Edison

01:18:52.278 --> 01:18:55.869
Company's General rate case. Um Some of the confusion

01:18:55.879 --> 01:18:58.768
might be stemming from the fact that there was a hearing

01:18:58.778 --> 01:19:05.669
yesterday um concerning AT&T S application. Well, unfortunately

01:19:06.048 --> 01:19:09.407
I received it this afternoon early this morning about

01:19:09.418 --> 01:19:14.818
elevenish and it said the date of yesterday and had

01:19:14.829 --> 01:19:18.528
I known about this, I would have contacted them yesterday

01:19:18.758 --> 01:19:22.588
So today's hearing is about the utility bills. Yes

01:19:22.599 --> 01:19:25.617
about Southern California Edison company utility bills

01:19:25.918 --> 01:19:31.967
Ok. I'm in Modesto California and I don't have Edison

01:19:32.249 --> 01:19:38.478
I have um M ID, which is um Modesto Irrigation for

01:19:38.489 --> 01:19:43.068
electricity and PG and E for gas. And they are also

01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:46.148
have been going up. I've doubled, it's doubled in price

01:19:46.157 --> 01:19:49.887
myself. And like I expressed earlier, I have an older

01:19:49.898 --> 01:19:53.749
home that I'm trying to find out where I could get

01:19:53.758 --> 01:19:57.269
someone that can help me that I can't afford to pay

01:19:57.447 --> 01:20:02.938
but to insulate my home. Um In 2020 I had um a

01:20:02.947 --> 01:20:07.749
company come out to do energy saving and it doesn't

01:20:07.758 --> 01:20:12.108
do any good. Uh However, that I so appreciated to have

01:20:12.117 --> 01:20:17.447
new, um, washer dryer, um, ac heater and water heater

01:20:17.458 --> 01:20:21.177
that was replaced. It was greatly needed. It was 1975

01:20:21.188 --> 01:20:24.999
or 78 that it was replaced then. So these, um, appliances

01:20:25.008 --> 01:20:29.148
were very old but it doesn't do any good to have these

01:20:29.157 --> 01:20:32.617
wonderful appliances that I got, um, under the ener

01:20:32.657 --> 01:20:37.478
energy saver, um, program that for, for, for low income

01:20:37.489 --> 01:20:42.467
that I can't insulate or get new windows. So I don't

01:20:42.478 --> 01:20:46.188
know where to go from here, but the the price has increased

01:20:46.197 --> 01:20:50.177
quite greatly. Nothing like in this. When your home

01:20:50.188 --> 01:20:55.818
is not insulated, it becomes a problem for my energy

01:20:55.829 --> 01:20:59.059
bill to be hired. So if you have information for me

01:20:59.068 --> 01:21:03.079
to call, please let me know.

01:21:03.079 --> 01:21:05.168
Unfortunately, I do not know who you would need to

01:21:05.177 --> 01:21:09.387
contact regarding that. Um I would suggest starting

01:21:09.398 --> 01:21:12.059
with Modesto Modesto Irrigation District. If that is

01:21:12.068 --> 01:21:17.539
your electricity provider with regard to the AT&T application

01:21:17.579 --> 01:21:21.489
Um If you would like to know how you can provide input

01:21:21.499 --> 01:21:24.947
into that proceeding, please reach out to our public

01:21:24.958 --> 01:21:27.938
advisor and they can let you know the preceding number

01:21:27.947 --> 01:21:30.829
and the way that you can uh provide comment for that

01:21:30.838 --> 01:21:33.427
proceeding. And the public advisor can be contacted

01:21:33.539 --> 01:21:37.378
via email if that works for you. Um at public dot advisor

01:21:37.387 --> 01:21:40.927
at CPUC dot C a.gov.

01:21:40.927 --> 01:21:44.599
Ok. Thank you very much for your time. You're welcome

01:21:45.637 --> 01:21:49.637
Ok, operator, next speaker, our next caller is Ayesha

01:21:49.648 --> 01:21:53.938
Howard, you may go ahead. Your line is open.

01:21:53.938 --> 01:21:58.539
Yes, this is Ayesha Howard commenting on the notice

01:21:59.157 --> 01:22:03.539
I received about the public

01:22:03.539 --> 01:22:08.358
MS Howard, MS Howard. Let me stop you. Um Can you place

01:22:08.367 --> 01:22:11.349
the phone closer to you? It's a little bit difficult

01:22:11.358 --> 01:22:15.528
to hear what you're saying. Yes.

01:22:15.528 --> 01:22:18.068
If you're on a speaker phone, it would be helpful not

01:22:18.079 --> 01:22:24.918
to be using a speaker. Ok, I will do it.

01:22:24.918 --> 01:22:28.157
All right. Can you hear me now? Better? That is, that

01:22:28.168 --> 01:22:31.289
is much better. Thank you. Ok. Yes. As I was saying

01:22:31.298 --> 01:22:35.367
my name is Aisha Howard commenting on the, the legal

01:22:35.378 --> 01:22:41.177
um public participation hearing. Um with respect to

01:22:41.188 --> 01:22:50.148
the 2025 General rate case, 8 23-050 10. Um with the

01:22:50.157 --> 01:22:55.758
hiking rates of 22.6% increase uh for over the next

01:22:55.778 --> 01:23:02.289
uh for over 2024 is ridiculous even though I have purchased

01:23:02.298 --> 01:23:06.298
or my son has purchased solar for us so that we can

01:23:06.309 --> 01:23:11.838
have um typical things we need in the home as far as

01:23:11.849 --> 01:23:17.048
electricity, I still tend to unplug everything because

01:23:17.059 --> 01:23:22.249
the bills are so high. Um especially with Edison. Um

01:23:22.258 --> 01:23:26.079
thinking about maybe I need more solar. I don't know

01:23:26.418 --> 01:23:31.739
that the rates are really ridiculous. I am on a, on

01:23:31.749 --> 01:23:35.239
a plan where I'm paying, you know, what I can each

01:23:35.249 --> 01:23:39.938
month and to increase it, you know, to keep continuing

01:23:39.947 --> 01:23:47.588
increase up to 20 22.6% within this year, 2024. It's

01:23:47.599 --> 01:23:53.099
ridiculous. I bel I know all of us have, have um you

01:23:53.108 --> 01:23:56.858
know, some type of pain from the, from the COVID era

01:23:56.867 --> 01:24:01.548
we had and some people are still um trying to endure

01:24:01.559 --> 01:24:06.427
and get better from these um situations. But yes, I

01:24:06.438 --> 01:24:12.898
oppose II I strictly do not want this and, and if you

01:24:12.907 --> 01:24:16.137
could let us know if we need anything else, what, what

01:24:16.148 --> 01:24:20.148
else we can do to help or maybe get more participants

01:24:20.278 --> 01:24:23.668
please let us know because this is, this is ridiculous

01:24:24.398 --> 01:24:27.749
and then to increase over the next couple of years

01:24:27.758 --> 01:24:33.978
for 6% more. That's, it's just, it's just outrageous

01:24:34.898 --> 01:24:38.008
If you guys can help us, please help us. I am on

01:24:38.019 --> 01:24:44.349
a care plan but I'm a widower who has Children that

01:24:44.358 --> 01:24:49.838
I'm trying to keep my house. Please help. Thank you

01:24:52.338 --> 01:24:56.407
Thank you, Miss Howard. Update. Our next call, please

01:24:58.309 --> 01:25:01.398
Our next caller is Warren Horton. You may go ahead

01:25:02.907 --> 01:25:10.499
My name is Warren Porton Warrenho RT on from Cathedral

01:25:10.508 --> 01:25:14.157
City. It has been long known that S ce charges one

01:25:14.168 --> 01:25:16.918
of the highest rates of electricity. When reviewing

01:25:16.927 --> 01:25:20.519
a 2022 S ce bill. The cost for the electricity itself

01:25:20.528 --> 01:25:23.648
was just over 11 cents per kilowatt hour to deliver

01:25:23.657 --> 01:25:26.499
The electricity was over 16 cents per kilowatt hour

01:25:26.688 --> 01:25:29.048
Our current March bill shows that the rate now for

01:25:29.059 --> 01:25:32.039
electricity is over 16 cents per kilowatt hour and

01:25:32.048 --> 01:25:35.108
for delivery over 18 cents per kilowatt hour for a

01:25:35.117 --> 01:25:39.217
little historical context. Our December 2013 bill,

01:25:39.958 --> 01:25:42.438
electricity rate was eight cents per kilowatt hour

01:25:42.447 --> 01:25:44.749
and the delivery charge was three cents per kilowatt

01:25:44.758 --> 01:25:48.528
hour. Today's electricity rate is 200% more than it

01:25:48.539 --> 01:25:52.818
was in 2013. And for delivery, it's 600% more than

01:25:52.829 --> 01:25:56.418
it was in 2013. The delivery charge is costing customers

01:25:56.427 --> 01:25:59.447
now more than the electricity itself. My wife and I

01:25:59.458 --> 01:26:02.508
are retired and live in Cathedral City region 15 where

01:26:02.519 --> 01:26:05.008
the summer heat kills and the summer bills are just

01:26:05.019 --> 01:26:08.079
as bad during the winter months. There is low usage

01:26:08.088 --> 01:26:12.148
However, the current bill is over $124. My wife and

01:26:12.157 --> 01:26:14.938
I anticipate this year's August bill to exceed over

01:26:14.947 --> 01:26:19.378
$500. In some cases, our friends are nearing $1000

01:26:19.519 --> 01:26:22.708
The info provided by C was misleading in so far as

01:26:22.717 --> 01:26:26.427
the average rate increase, the $17 might apply if we're

01:26:26.438 --> 01:26:30.543
talking about usage only within tier one. But se drastically

01:26:30.552 --> 01:26:33.394
increases the rate for tier two and above. Unlike rates

01:26:33.403 --> 01:26:36.992
in Ohio where the more someone uses, the less it costs

01:26:37.213 --> 01:26:40.353
As explained by the executive office, the delivery

01:26:40.364 --> 01:26:42.874
charge is for poles, wires, transformers, etcetera

01:26:42.923 --> 01:26:45.894
which other providers do not have a delivery charge

01:26:45.903 --> 01:26:49.322
such as imperial irrigation, Nevada Electric, Rutherford

01:26:49.333 --> 01:26:53.188
Electric in Ohio and Texas to name a few. The executive

01:26:53.197 --> 01:26:56.099
office stated that C is deducting operating costs from

01:26:56.108 --> 01:26:59.157
their tax burden. And at the same time charging customers

01:26:59.168 --> 01:27:02.228
for the same costs in an apparent conversation with

01:27:02.239 --> 01:27:05.387
a California franchise tax board rep. It was explained

01:27:05.398 --> 01:27:09.697
to them of this practice by C the rep stated that it

01:27:09.708 --> 01:27:12.608
appeared that C was double dipping, their words, not

01:27:12.617 --> 01:27:15.677
mine. I am aware that these allegations have been turned

01:27:15.688 --> 01:27:17.918
over to the California State Attorney General's office

01:27:17.927 --> 01:27:21.108
by a California State Assembly member. It was noted

01:27:21.117 --> 01:27:23.878
that utilities such as se are protected from class

01:27:23.887 --> 01:27:27.519
action lawsuits due to what is known as the filed rate

01:27:27.528 --> 01:27:30.739
doctrine, which has been in existence for many years

01:27:30.818 --> 01:27:33.349
Essentially, utilities can raise rates as they please

01:27:33.358 --> 01:27:35.657
So long as they have the blessing of a governmental

01:27:35.668 --> 01:27:39.769
agency such as the ct of such rate changes, it was

01:27:39.778 --> 01:27:42.898
suggested that the filed rate doctrine would only protect

01:27:42.907 --> 01:27:46.059
them from civil lawsuits, not criminal acts. With this

01:27:46.068 --> 01:27:50.427
in mind. California public utilities code 451 may apply

01:27:50.438 --> 01:27:53.648
to the CPU in order to maintain just and reasonable

01:27:53.657 --> 01:27:57.039
rates for California consumers. I urge the CPUC to

01:27:57.048 --> 01:27:59.867
deny the rate increase, stop the delivery charge and

01:27:59.878 --> 01:28:06.068
require. See.

01:28:06.068 --> 01:28:09.648
Thank you, Mr Horton operator. Next caller, please

01:28:10.958 --> 01:28:12.887
Thank you. And before we go to the next caller again

01:28:12.898 --> 01:28:16.048
if you would like to make a comment, please press star

01:28:16.059 --> 01:28:18.978
one, unmute your phone and record your first and last

01:28:18.989 --> 01:28:22.358
name slowly and clearly, our next caller is Robert

01:28:22.367 --> 01:28:26.489
Hansen. You may go ahead.

01:28:26.489 --> 01:28:32.958
Hello Can you hear me? Yes, we can. Ok. My comment

01:28:32.967 --> 01:28:37.519
is that, um, one of your callers had brought up a good

01:28:37.528 --> 01:28:40.849
point where she lives in another state and they pay

01:28:40.858 --> 01:28:45.398
a lot less money than we do here in California. I think

01:28:45.407 --> 01:28:53.099
the, uh, puc would do a, a big favor to all Californians

01:28:53.108 --> 01:28:57.338
to get the word out why we are paying much more than

01:28:57.349 --> 01:29:03.079
other states. Um, I am totally against the rate increase

01:29:03.528 --> 01:29:09.309
and hopefully you get enough people complaining about

01:29:09.318 --> 01:29:12.318
it that you're able to put a stop to it. Thank you

01:29:14.258 --> 01:29:19.648
Thank you, Mr Hanson operator. Next caller,

01:29:19.648 --> 01:29:23.749
our next caller is Susan mccurdy. I'm here, but I think

01:29:23.758 --> 01:29:28.758
I may be in the wrong call. I only received a, a

01:29:28.958 --> 01:29:35.548
message today about um AT&T not providing landline

01:29:35.559 --> 01:29:39.008
service.

01:29:39.008 --> 01:29:41.378
Um

01:29:41.378 --> 01:29:44.318
Yes, this hearing is regarding Southern California

01:29:44.329 --> 01:29:47.829
Edison companies. Oh, I'm at the wrong meeting. I am

01:29:47.838 --> 01:29:51.599
so sorry. I followed what they told me to call and

01:29:51.608 --> 01:29:55.188
it was not correct. So please excuse the call. I'm

01:29:55.197 --> 01:29:59.039
sorry to take up your time. Um I apologize for the

01:29:59.048 --> 01:30:02.137
confusion. If you would like to provide comment in

01:30:02.148 --> 01:30:05.117
that proceeding. The AT&T proceeding, please contact

01:30:05.128 --> 01:30:07.728
our public advisor and they will be able to assist

01:30:07.739 --> 01:30:11.519
you with regard to your comments. Thank you so much

01:30:12.918 --> 01:30:16.739
Hey, operator, next caller, please. And we show no

01:30:16.749 --> 01:30:18.867
additional callers at this time. But again, as a last

01:30:18.878 --> 01:30:22.728
reminder, please press star one unmute your phone and

01:30:22.739 --> 01:30:25.758
record your name if you would like to make a comment

01:30:49.947 --> 01:30:53.099
Our next caller is Claudia Gonzalez. You may go ahead

01:30:53.108 --> 01:30:56.579
Your line is open. Yes, I just called because I try

01:30:56.588 --> 01:31:01.657
I tried to, I can, I can forward it to my electricity

01:31:01.668 --> 01:31:05.769
bill is so high and, uh, for, since the last two years

01:31:05.778 --> 01:31:09.579
I tried to qualify to low incomes and, and I can, I

01:31:09.918 --> 01:31:13.548
can make it and I can make my regular payments. And

01:31:13.559 --> 01:31:17.838
so behind with my payment, I try to have health for

01:31:17.849 --> 01:31:21.898
my account

01:31:21.898 --> 01:31:26.407
and try to help you a little bit for the to to

01:31:26.418 --> 01:31:29.989
pay the the bill every month because I just try to

01:31:29.999 --> 01:31:34.309
pay the behind bills all the time and I'm behind and

01:31:34.318 --> 01:31:38.778
I got my bill so high and every month is 2 $300

01:31:39.157 --> 01:31:44.548
and they can, they can give me raise

01:31:44.548 --> 01:31:47.608
uh MS Gonzalez. I recommend that you reach out to Southern

01:31:47.617 --> 01:31:50.548
California Edison company. We gave a couple of phone

01:31:50.559 --> 01:31:54.137
numbers um that for people you can contact if you have

01:31:54.148 --> 01:31:57.258
a billing or service related issue. Were you able to

01:31:57.269 --> 01:32:00.778
take those phone numbers down? No, I don't, I don't

01:32:00.789 --> 01:32:04.407
I don't hear that. Ok. Can I, can I give you a

01:32:04.418 --> 01:32:09.489
phone number now? Sure. Ok. Um so we have Priscilla

01:32:09.499 --> 01:32:24.318
Medina. Her phone number is 626815. Mhm. 815 721414

01:32:24.728 --> 01:32:29.458
All right. Ok. Ok. Thank you very much. Thank you,

01:32:29.467 --> 01:32:35.128
Miss Gonzalez um Operator. Next caller, please.

01:32:35.128 --> 01:32:36.947
And at this time, we have no additional callers on

01:32:36.958 --> 01:32:40.818
the public participant line.

01:32:40.818 --> 01:32:43.657
Thank you, Operator.

01:32:43.657 --> 01:32:46.438
Um ok, so that concludes all the speakers who have

01:32:46.447 --> 01:32:49.978
signed up to speak. I wanna thank our it staff, court

01:32:49.989 --> 01:32:54.039
reporters, um and Commissioner Douglas for their participation

01:32:54.048 --> 01:32:57.258
and support today. Um I also want to thank those who

01:32:57.269 --> 01:33:01.309
attended the public participation hearing in Long Beach

01:33:01.758 --> 01:33:04.358
Um And I want to thank all of the public speakers for

01:33:04.367 --> 01:33:07.208
your input and comments and for your patience and waiting

01:33:07.217 --> 01:33:09.887
in the queue to provide your comments. Um Thank you

01:33:09.898 --> 01:33:12.157
Also, to everyone who took the time to listen in on

01:33:12.168 --> 01:33:15.117
the phone or watch online. If any of you would like

01:33:15.128 --> 01:33:17.758
to provide additional input or comments after this

01:33:17.769 --> 01:33:20.407
hearing, you may submit written comments on the docket

01:33:20.427 --> 01:33:23.258
card for this proceeding which can be found on the

01:33:23.269 --> 01:33:27.778
commission's website. Um That address is a PPS dot

01:33:27.789 --> 01:33:40.818
CPUC dot C a.gov/c/a 2305010. If you need assistance

01:33:40.829 --> 01:33:43.739
with providing additional comments, either for this

01:33:43.749 --> 01:33:46.668
proceeding or for another proceeding that is occurring

01:33:46.677 --> 01:33:48.898
at the commission, please contact the commission's

01:33:48.907 --> 01:33:52.588
public advisor's office. Ok. Thank you, everyone that

01:33:52.599 --> 01:33:55.427
concludes this afternoon's public participation hearing

01:33:55.438 --> 01:33:56.749
We will be off the record.