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The commission will come to order. This is the time

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and place set for the public participation hearing

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in the general rate case application of Southern California

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Edison company application 23-05 dash 010. My name

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is Sophia Park and I am one of the administrative law

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judges assigned to this proceeding. I am co assigned

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with Judge Aaron Seibert who is listening in to today's

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hearing. We are also joined by Karen Douglas who is

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the assigned commissioner for this case. Commissioner

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Douglas, would you like to make opening remarks? Yes

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Thank you, Judge Park and welcome to all members of

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the public participating today. I'm the, I'm the commissioner

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assigned to this proceeding where we will be reviewing

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Southern California Edison's 2025 general rate case

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I would like to start by thanking everyone for taking

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time out of their busy evening to participate in today's

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public participation hearing. This being the fourth

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of six such hearings and the final virtual hearing

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I especially want to acknowledge those of you who may

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have made the effort to attend this hearing in person

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due to an incorrect notice. I'm sorry for the inconvenience

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But I thank you for your participation and invite you

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to still provide comments today. These hearings are

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an important way for the commission to hear directly

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from individuals and communities who are impacted by

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the results of this proceeding. Your feedback of these

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hearings gives us valuable insights including concerns

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and priorities that will go a long way in helping us

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make informed and balanced decisions. This phase of

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the general rate case determines the total amount of

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revenue that Southern California Edison is authorized

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to collect to cover various utility costs from 2025

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through 2028. Right now, California is wrestling with

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a number of important priorities that are necessary

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for the provision of affordable, safe, reliable and

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clean energy service. These priorities include investments

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in clean energy programs, infrastructure maintenance

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and upgrades, customer energized needs and mitigation

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work against the continued threat of catastrophic wildfires

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But I'm also well aware of the affordability challenges

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that these priorities could place on ratepayers. To

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that end. We'll be scrutinizing the necessity of Southern

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California Edison's requested funding authorization

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and taking action to contain cost and minimize rate

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increases. With that said, I appreciate the opportunity

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to hear directly from community members today to understand

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your priorities and concerns. I also wanna thank the

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judges and the many staff who have made today's hearing

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possible. Um Judge Park, Judge Cyber, the Public Advisor's

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office, our court reporters and our it staff um, have

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all worked hard to make today's hearing possible and

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I appreciate it. And thank you.

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Thank you, Commissioner. The purpose of today's hearing

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is to hear directly from Southern California Edison

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customers and the general public about this particular

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application. Your input and comments are very helpful

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as parties and the commission continue to consider

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all aspects of Edison's request prior to making a decision

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and to clarify throughout this proceeding. I will also

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refer to Southern California Edison Company as Edison

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This is the last of four virtual hearings we are holding

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regarding this application. The commission will also

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be holding two in person hearings on April 10th at

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two o'clock PM and six o'clock pm in Long Beach at

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the Recreation Park community center located at 4900

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East Seventh Street. I understand that some customers

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may have received an incorrect notice that the in person

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hearings were occurring today if there are any customers

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who did not receive the correct information and are

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at the Long Beach venue today. Thank you for your efforts

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to attend the hearing and I am sorry for any inconvenience

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I invite you to still provide public comments during

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today's virtual hearing. Edison employees should be

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at the venue to assist you if you are able. We also

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invite you to return for the in person hearing scheduled

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for April 10th for participants that wish to provide

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public comments today. You may do so by calling 1 808

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571917, then entering passcode 603278 £8 for English

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and 379962 £7 for Spanish. Then pressing star one on

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your phone. These instructions are also available online

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on the webcast of today's hearing. The operator will

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maintain the queue of public commenters and announce

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your name when it is your turn to speak. The overall

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purpose of today's hearing is to obtain public feedback

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and comments. If you have questions regarding the application

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you may go to the commission's website, www.cpuc.c.gov/pph

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or contact the commission's public advisor at public

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dot advisor at cpu.ca.gov for assistance. If you have

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a question about your bill or service that is not directly

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related to Edison's application. We have two representatives

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from the company who are standing by and are available

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to assist customers during today's hearing. This includes

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Adriana Munoz. Her number is 6266337133. Email address

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is Ad Ria N A dot M un Oz at S ce.com

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Alternatively, you may contact Carrie Gardner. Her

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number is 9097732269. Her email address is Kar I dot

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Gardn er at S ce.com. This contact information is also

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available on the webcast. Before we start hearing from

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the public. I would like to give you a brief overview

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of the California Public Utilities Commission and the

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application filed by Southern California Edison Company

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the Public Utilities commission is a state agency that

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regulates privately owned utilities such as Edison

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Among other things, the commission decides how much

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money Edison should be authorized to collect from its

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customers and the actual rates that will be included

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on customers bills for electric service. The public

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utilities commission has five commissioners who are

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appointed by the governor and confirmed by the State

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Senate Judge Seiber and I manage the day to day activities

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of the case. However, the five commissioners are ultimately

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the ones who will decide and vote on whether or not

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to approve Edison's request or some other amount. Our

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job as a judges will be to evaluate all of the evidence

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in the proceeding and to write a proposed decision

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for the commissioners to consider, the five commissioners

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will then deliberate and decide whether to adopt the

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proposed decision from the judges or adopt their own

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alternate decision based on the evidence in the proceeding

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It is estimated that the commission will vote on this

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decision in the first quarter of next year to briefly

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summarize Edison's application. In May of 2023. Edison

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submitted its general rate case request asking the

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commission for approval of their expected cost for

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owning and operating the company for the year 2025

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to 2028. The expenses included in the application generally

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cover the pools, wires, meters employees and all other

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activities needed to deliver electricity to your home

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or business. The application also includes capital

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expenditures to upgrade electric system, replace infrastructure

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address wildfire risk related to Edison's equipment

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improve cyber security among many others. It is important

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to note that the costs we are talking about in this

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application are just one part of Edison's annual operating

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expenses that can impact customers rates. There are

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other proceedings at the commission that can impact

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the rates that Edison charges its customers. But right

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now, we are here to receive comments from the public

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regarding Edison's request to increase revenues. It

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collects from customers by $1.895 billion in 2025 and

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additional increases of $619 million in 2026 $664 million

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in 2027 and $705 million in 2028. The impact that such

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a revenue increase would have on customers' bills will

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vary and depend on many factors such as how much energy

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a customer uses. However, if the request is approved

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we would expect the impact on a typical residential

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customer to be a monthly bill increase of approximately

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$17.49 in 2025 which would equate to a monthly bill

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increase of approximately 10%. A typical residential

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customers monthly bill would increase approximately

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an additional $5 in 2026 $5 in 2027 and $5 in 2028

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We want to hear what you think about Edison's request

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comments from the public can help the Public Utilities

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Commission reach an informed decision. The commissioners

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judge Seibert and I will pay close attention to the

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opinions expressed during today's public hearing. We

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have court reporters transcribing today's hearing who

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will be taking down everything that is said on the

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telephone line. If you do speak, we ask that you speak

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slowly and clearly so that the reporters are able to

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capture everything that is said. We also request that

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when you speak, you do not use a speaker phone and

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that it is difficult for the court reporters to hear

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the written transcript of today's hearing will be available

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to Dutch Seiffert and myself and the commissioners

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and posted publicly on the docket card for this proceeding

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If you or anyone else, you know, are not able to make

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comments today. There are several other ways to provide

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input or become involved. The commission considers

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written public comments regarding Southern California

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Edison's application which may be submitted any time

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on the docket card for this proceeding by going to

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a pps.cpu.ca.gov/c/a 2305010. As of today, we have

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received over 200 written public comments if you wish

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to find more information on how to become involved

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in the proceeding or stay updated on proceeding developments

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The commission's public advisor is available to assist

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you information regarding the public advisor is posted

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on the commission's website, www dot CPUC dot C a.gov

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or you can email the public advisor at public dot advisor

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at CPUC dot C a.gov.

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And we will now hear from members of the public again

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If you have a billing or service question that is unrelated

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to Edison's application, please contact Adriana Munoz

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at 6266337133 or Carry Gardner at 9097732269. If you

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wish to provide public comments at today's hearing

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please press star one on your phone if you have not

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already done. So, and the operator will add you to

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the queue of speakers. When it's your turn to speak

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the operator will announce your name. Please begin

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by spelling your full name. Provide your city and remember

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to speak slowly to make sure everyone has an opportunity

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to provide comments. Each speaker will have a time

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limit of three minutes. A time will sound when the

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three minutes is up with that operator. Please call

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on the first speaker in the queue.

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Thank you. Our first speaker is Mario Sanchez. Your

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line is open.

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Hello.

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Hello, hello. Can you hear me on the line? Yes, we

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can hear you. Is it clear? It is clear. Yes. Ok. I

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I mean, I don't even know where to begin. So, so in

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in this particular forum here, I can't really ask any

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questions. I just make statements, right? That that's

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all this is all about correct, correct? Ok. So I, I

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don't even know where to begin. Well, you know what

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he, here's the thing. So I have a, I have a stack

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of, you know, when you get your bills from Edison.

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Uh, a lot of times they put these notices in there

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and I have a stack that's just maybe, maybe going back

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two years. I just started, like about two years ago

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I started just saving these notices because it's like

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every other month, every three months, every few months

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I would get these notices about these increases that

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Edison needs for and, and it's very general, they,

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they talk about a general funding, something like that

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It's not even specific so that, that can mean anything

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I mean, you, uh, Edison, uh, I mean, I understand that

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the company that they need that it's about the, the

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revenue driven but you know what they have to cater

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to, to the public and these increases, which are, there's

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many now, I, I'm just going back two years but I, I

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mean, it sounds like I'm exaggerating but every so

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often every three months, maybe every four months,

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Edison is asking for an increase and that has AAA separate

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impact. I mean, II, I hear people talking about, oh

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you know, there might be a $15 difference, uh, uh,

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an in on the average $15 increase or a $5 increase

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or a $7 increase. But you know what that adds up over

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time and especially, you know, people that are, uh

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you know, elderly people, people that are on limited

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incomes, people that don't make that much money on

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and on and on, all that adds up because they have other

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bills that they have to pay. So, to me, Edison keeps

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asking for all this money, but we don't even know it's

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a public exactly where it's going. They talk about

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it goes to general fund. A general fund. Well, what

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does that mean? That's very general. Anything you could

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say anything can go to a general fund. But I think

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you know, we, as the, the, the, uh, the people that

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that pay these bills, we, it needs to be more specific

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and, I mean, at one point are they going to stop asking

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for increases? You know, uh, like I said, $5 here,

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$5 here, uh, here and there $17.10 dollars. It doesn't

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sound like that much, but when you look at it over

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time, I know that my bill over the past, let's just

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go back a couple of years has doubled from what I used

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to pay that was like two years ago because every time

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they get these increases, uh, it, it makes a difference

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on the bill and when you start adding up $5.10 dollars

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$17.20 dollars here and there that adds up. Imagine

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And, and I'm a resident, I'm not even an owner, business

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owner and, you know, I live in a two bedroom apartment

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I don't use all that much electricity. I mean, I, I

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see what I use and it's pretty minimal because a lot

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of times I'm not here, my roommate's not here. We don't

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leave the lights on all, you know, all night, you know

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this kind of thing. So it's fairly minimal. But yet

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my bill is like over $100. It's 100 and $30 or something

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like that. Which is ridiculous for the amount of electricity

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I use. I, I understand these things vary from individual

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Hello? Can I still talk or no? Um Can you just wrap

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up because that time? So, so basically, uh you know

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here's my thing because I know people that work for

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for Edison, they are very well paid and I think a lot

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of this money goes towards their salaries. I know the

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CEO the president of, of Edison, he makes a good, he

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makes a good living. He makes something like a total

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compensation like something like $15 million. You know

00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:54.098
maybe Edison should start thinking about uh making

00:17:54.108 --> 00:17:57.380
cuts in people's salaries potentially or the compensation

00:17:57.390 --> 00:18:00.078
or the CEO S or the executives. That that's a lot of

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money for a for a CEO for him to make $15 million

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And guess where that money comes from, it comes from

00:18:05.309 --> 00:18:09.170
people like us. So I think that that this request needs

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to be highly scrutinized because Edison has been asking

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for too many too many times now. Uh these increases

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and these things add up and it, and it affects people

00:18:20.108 --> 00:18:23.170
that are elderly people on a limited income and so

00:18:23.180 --> 00:18:25.098
on and so forth, even if you make good money. I mean

00:18:25.108 --> 00:18:27.608
people have all kinds of bills to pay and these bills

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just keep going up.

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Thank you, Mr Sanchez. You're welcome.

00:18:35.078 --> 00:18:38.439
Ok. And just a reminder to uh the speakers when you

00:18:38.449 --> 00:18:40.578
first come on, please, do you spell your name so that

00:18:40.588 --> 00:18:42.959
the court reporter can take down your name? And um

00:18:42.969 --> 00:18:46.219
also provide the city that you are calling from. Um

00:18:46.229 --> 00:18:49.400
operator. Can you call in the next speaker, please

00:18:50.449 --> 00:18:54.910
Yes, our next speaker is Kay Summer. Your line is open

00:18:57.779 --> 00:19:05.140
Hello? Yes, hello, this is K hello. Yes, go ahead.

00:19:05.868 --> 00:19:10.098
Oh, ok. Can you hear me now? Yes, we can hear you

00:19:10.259 --> 00:19:21.680
Ok. My name is Kkay Schemmer Schemm. Er, that's two

00:19:21.689 --> 00:19:27.390
M as in Mary and I'm in Fullerton California.

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Um, this is outrageous. Um, I, I live by myself so

00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:37.229
I have to pay all the bills by myself. Um, I had

00:19:37.239 --> 00:19:41.890
to retire early and that means that I had to um, only

00:19:41.900 --> 00:19:48.838
get 50% of my um, of my retirement because I wasn't

00:19:48.848 --> 00:19:53.078
60 I had to retire because of disability. Well, the

00:19:53.088 --> 00:19:56.358
disability paid for two years and then now I just got

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cut 15% of um, of that disability because it only last

00:20:02.759 --> 00:20:07.390
um, two years for the full disability. And so now I

00:20:07.400 --> 00:20:11.509
only get 10% of the disability. So I've gotten a decrease

00:20:11.519 --> 00:20:18.118
of 15% plus I already had the 50% cut. So now I

00:20:18.130 --> 00:20:23.989
I own my own house and, um, my, uh, I echo the

00:20:24.000 --> 00:20:28.439
the gentleman ahead of me that my, uh, rates have more

00:20:28.449 --> 00:20:32.088
than doubled. I pay over, I paid like $220 a month

00:20:32.098 --> 00:20:36.479
That is outrageous. I, I can't sustain that especially

00:20:36.489 --> 00:20:41.900
since my bill keeps going down. And, um, like I said

00:20:41.910 --> 00:20:45.189
I am on disability and I can't work right now so I

00:20:45.199 --> 00:20:48.969
can't have that. Keep going up and up and gas and food

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and everything else keep going up. So, I it's very

00:20:52.858 --> 00:20:57.670
discouraging. So that is my comment.

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Thank you for taking the time to call in schemmer.

00:21:00.479 --> 00:21:04.500
Um, operator. Next caller, please.

00:21:04.500 --> 00:21:09.519
Ar it's color comes from Glenn Sco. Your line is open

00:21:10.689 --> 00:21:14.019
Hi, good afternoon. Good evening everybody. My name

00:21:14.029 --> 00:21:19.348
is Glen Glenn Stoller Jennstoll. Er, I'm calling in

00:21:19.358 --> 00:21:23.598
from Palm Springs, California. And, um, I used to have

00:21:23.608 --> 00:21:27.618
a corporate job but these numbers make no sense to

00:21:27.630 --> 00:21:31.900
me. I, I, and you know, a 20 some odd percent increase

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in the or 23% increase between 2024 and 2025. My social

00:21:38.799 --> 00:21:43.469
security is up like three or 4% over last year. My

00:21:43.479 --> 00:21:47.890
bills keep on going up and yet Edison is get, wants

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to charge a higher percent increase year over year

00:21:51.338 --> 00:21:56.368
than I've ever seen in my 30 to 40 years of working

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full time. Um, so I, I think that I would ask the

00:22:01.250 --> 00:22:03.900
commission to actually look and see, you know, what's

00:22:03.910 --> 00:22:07.130
the benchmark for this? I mean, what's realistic to

00:22:07.140 --> 00:22:10.699
ask the citizens of Southern California to pay, you

00:22:10.709 --> 00:22:12.858
know, when their incomes are nowhere, it's going up

00:22:12.868 --> 00:22:18.449
23% year over year. Um One thing is I just feel like

00:22:18.459 --> 00:22:22.170
Edison always wins and, you know, I'll give you an

00:22:22.180 --> 00:22:27.420
example which is I have solar in my house. I judiciously

00:22:27.430 --> 00:22:32.400
watch how much electricity I use. Um And you know how

00:22:32.410 --> 00:22:35.868
much I, you know, basically return to the grid. And

00:22:35.880 --> 00:22:40.588
so last year, according Edison's records, um I generated

00:22:40.650 --> 00:22:45.739
over $1300 excess energy back to, to Edison. But then

00:22:45.750 --> 00:22:48.489
you know, at their rate, but then when it comes back

00:22:48.500 --> 00:22:51.358
to reimbursing me for all of that saving that I did

00:22:51.818 --> 00:22:55.729
you know that Edison profited off of, I only get $220

00:22:55.739 --> 00:22:59.318
So it just that, that thing, it just seems gained,

00:22:59.328 --> 00:23:01.910
excuse me and no offense to the commission, but it

00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:07.598
just seemed gained into um essence favor. And the g

00:23:07.729 --> 00:23:11.500
the first gentleman, uh talked about the CEO of Edison

00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:19.939
$2.8 million for the CEO of a publicly regulated corporation

00:23:20.338 --> 00:23:25.719
is excessive in my book. And I used to work with executives

00:23:25.828 --> 00:23:30.239
in an executive position but $2.8 million is excessive

00:23:30.650 --> 00:23:34.348
in a regulated environment. The amount of other people

00:23:34.358 --> 00:23:39.118
in Edison who make $150,000 plus is also excessive

00:23:40.118 --> 00:23:43.279
So that's my take. And I just asked for you guys to

00:23:43.439 --> 00:23:50.588
put yourselves in the, the ratepayers shoes and, um

00:23:50.868 --> 00:23:54.809
consider, like, how do people make ends meet when a

00:23:54.838 --> 00:23:59.549
major part of their bill, their bills. Edison wants

00:23:59.559 --> 00:24:04.709
to raise by 23 plus percent in the first year and then

00:24:04.809 --> 00:24:07.709
the next year. Yeah, they only look like 3% but it's

00:24:07.719 --> 00:24:11.400
3% on to 20 some odd percent and it just has a

00:24:11.410 --> 00:24:15.578
compound effect.

00:24:15.578 --> 00:24:18.880
So uh that's all I gotta say. And the bells ring. So

00:24:18.890 --> 00:24:24.019
I'm out of time. Thank you, Mr Stoller. Um operator

00:24:24.029 --> 00:24:28.529
Next caller, please.

00:24:28.529 --> 00:24:31.660
Our next call, it comes from Scott Dandekar. Your lines

00:24:31.670 --> 00:24:37.098
open. Yes. Thank you for this opportunity. I farm in

00:24:37.108 --> 00:24:41.449
Ventura County and Santa Barbara County. My name is

00:24:41.459 --> 00:24:47.140
Scott Sco tt. Last name, capital va N space, capital

00:24:47.150 --> 00:24:52.068
D er space, capital Kar and I live in Carpenteria,

00:24:52.078 --> 00:24:54.500
California.

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I, since I'm in two counties, uh I had the opportunity

00:25:00.009 --> 00:25:04.509
to have power supplied by what's called the Clean Power

00:25:04.519 --> 00:25:10.029
Alliance. And it was a system where if I didn't opt

00:25:10.039 --> 00:25:13.608
out, I was in it, I was in it for close to

00:25:13.618 --> 00:25:17.358
a year. They had promises of lower rates. They didn't

00:25:17.368 --> 00:25:20.930
materialize. It took me another six months to opt out

00:25:21.400 --> 00:25:25.799
and I and with Edison, the same thing happened in Santa

00:25:25.809 --> 00:25:30.009
Barbara County, Central Coast community energy, same

00:25:30.019 --> 00:25:32.750
promises. But because of the bad experience with the

00:25:32.759 --> 00:25:36.318
Clean Power Alliance, I opted out immediately. So I'm

00:25:36.328 --> 00:25:40.640
also with Santa uh Southern California Edison in Santa

00:25:40.650 --> 00:25:47.380
Barbara County. Uh My two questions that have been

00:25:47.598 --> 00:25:51.608
confusing me for some time is in this process of these

00:25:51.618 --> 00:25:57.789
community energy, green energy providers. Edison has

00:25:57.799 --> 00:26:02.539
not provided any information to me to make that decision

00:26:02.709 --> 00:26:06.979
of where I should be getting my energy. And the second

00:26:06.989 --> 00:26:12.880
part of my question is with regard to these rates as

00:26:12.890 --> 00:26:18.500
we go into the future, will we still have that option

00:26:18.509 --> 00:26:23.160
or will we continue to have parallel structures? One

00:26:23.170 --> 00:26:26.588
with these clean energy outfits and one with Edison

00:26:26.890 --> 00:26:32.328
and having to try to decide where our lowest rate is

00:26:32.630 --> 00:26:38.239
Um Perhaps you can explain the relationship between

00:26:38.250 --> 00:26:43.449
these community energy uh organizations that fall under

00:26:43.459 --> 00:26:49.519
the puc in some fashion, but differently than Southern

00:26:49.529 --> 00:26:53.439
California. Edison does. Thank you.

00:26:53.439 --> 00:26:56.088
Thank you, Mr Van Der Car. I, I am not sure if

00:26:56.098 --> 00:26:59.430
you're talking about community choice aggregators.

00:26:59.900 --> 00:27:03.868
Um But I will say that Edison should be providing a

00:27:04.578 --> 00:27:07.848
there should be bill comparison information. Um And

00:27:07.858 --> 00:27:10.098
if you need that information, I recommend that you

00:27:10.108 --> 00:27:13.779
reach out to one of the Edison representatives. Um

00:27:13.789 --> 00:27:18.588
Either MS Munoz or MS Gardner.

00:27:18.588 --> 00:27:36.009
Um ok, operator, next caller please.

00:27:36.009 --> 00:27:41.779
And the next caller is Eugene, your line is Open.

00:27:41.779 --> 00:27:47.759
Yes, hello, this is Eugene Egene and I live in Baldwin

00:27:47.769 --> 00:27:51.500
Park, California. So I would like to echo some of the

00:27:51.509 --> 00:27:56.299
other sentiments um that have already been given. Uh

00:27:56.309 --> 00:28:00.338
these, the rate increases are, you know, the repeated

00:28:00.519 --> 00:28:05.618
rate increases. And we're talking about probably over

00:28:05.630 --> 00:28:11.039
a 50% rate increase over five, a five year period.

00:28:11.670 --> 00:28:14.989
The average, you know, salary increase for someone

00:28:15.000 --> 00:28:20.689
is approximately probably 3% per year. So it's not

00:28:20.699 --> 00:28:27.789
sustainable for the average repair. And also, you know

00:28:28.039 --> 00:28:32.108
I want to echo the sentiment regarding executive pay

00:28:32.160 --> 00:28:36.920
in the millions of dollars because just like any a

00:28:36.930 --> 00:28:43.578
public company for profit entity, the allegiance if

00:28:43.588 --> 00:28:48.449
you will is to the shareholders and to the executive

00:28:48.459 --> 00:28:54.479
management, not the customers. And so I urge the commission

00:28:54.489 --> 00:28:59.239
to take that into consideration when deciding whether

00:28:59.250 --> 00:29:05.910
or not to grant these rate increases.

00:29:05.910 --> 00:29:09.348
And that's, those are pretty much my, my sentiment

00:29:10.750 --> 00:29:14.900
Thank you for calling in uh operator. Next caller.

00:29:15.348 --> 00:29:18.000
Thank you

00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:23.759
n call. It comes from Gle Free your lines open.

00:29:23.759 --> 00:29:34.098
Hi, I'm Gail Gail Frisch. Frisch from Oak Park, California

00:29:34.640 --> 00:29:38.269
And I am a woman who owns her own house. I live

00:29:38.279 --> 00:29:43.989
alone. I have solar panels and I'm a teacher and I

00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:49.259
are ready tutor every day at night and on the weekend

00:29:49.269 --> 00:29:53.209
so I can make it and I can't actually work anymore

00:29:53.509 --> 00:29:57.519
And gas is now up at almost $5. Food has not stopped

00:29:57.529 --> 00:30:00.650
going up since COVID, even though those, those issues

00:30:00.660 --> 00:30:04.189
have disappeared and now this is, is water went up

00:30:04.199 --> 00:30:08.000
and now look at this, it's everything the average person

00:30:08.098 --> 00:30:10.689
cannot afford this. It doesn't make sense. I have solar

00:30:10.699 --> 00:30:14.328
panels. I live alone. How can my last month's bill

00:30:14.618 --> 00:30:21.439
Which was um $70. And I had a credit because I always

00:30:21.449 --> 00:30:27.979
pay a little bit extra. This month's bill was $937

00:30:28.118 --> 00:30:33.088
for just me. That does not make sense. And because

00:30:33.098 --> 00:30:37.039
I had a credit, um it was only oh only it was

00:30:37.049 --> 00:30:44.549
$441.50. The average person cannot do that again. I

00:30:44.559 --> 00:30:48.939
own my home. I have solar, nobody can, can keep up

00:30:48.949 --> 00:30:51.949
with that. And then when they look at the charges that

00:30:51.959 --> 00:30:54.900
you guys are looking to, that you put out in your s

00:30:54.910 --> 00:30:58.318
ce legal notices. And by the way, I went up and down

00:30:58.328 --> 00:31:02.439
my entire street and asked everyone, not one of my

00:31:02.449 --> 00:31:05.750
neighbors received this in their bill yet. They didn't

00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:08.799
even know about this. I don't know why, but I'm the

00:31:08.809 --> 00:31:12.358
only one who received it. And the other part is it

00:31:12.368 --> 00:31:19.390
says in 2025 it's going to go up 22.6% over 2024. You

00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:21.858
guys out of your mind, where do you think this money

00:31:21.868 --> 00:31:24.969
is going to come from? People are just able to pay

00:31:24.979 --> 00:31:29.130
their bills sometimes and already working extra jobs

00:31:29.140 --> 00:31:32.338
like myself and I know I'm not alone. Then it says

00:31:32.348 --> 00:31:37.890
in 2026 it's going up $5 in 2027 another, or it says

00:31:37.900 --> 00:31:43.779
6% 6% 6%. You guys said $5 I don't know whether that's

00:31:43.789 --> 00:31:49.009
accurate at all. When the, when it's 6% increase. That

00:31:49.019 --> 00:31:52.699
doesn't seem exactly that it would be $5 to me again

00:31:52.709 --> 00:31:57.180
This is absolutely ridiculous. We cannot sustain and

00:31:57.189 --> 00:32:00.979
afford this and me and I'm sure there's so many other

00:32:00.989 --> 00:32:04.479
people like me, I won't be able to pay those bills

00:32:04.939 --> 00:32:08.660
and it's just unfair and they just can't keep raising

00:32:08.670 --> 00:32:11.848
like that. The normal average person can't do this

00:32:15.078 --> 00:32:18.380
That's it. Thank you for taking the time to call in

00:32:19.250 --> 00:32:22.818
um operator. Next caller, please.

00:32:22.818 --> 00:32:26.650
Our next caller is Mrs Peterson. Your line is open

00:32:27.150 --> 00:32:29.818
Thank you so much. I appreciate the fact that you're

00:32:29.828 --> 00:32:34.680
allowing the public to input their comments and I'm

00:32:34.689 --> 00:32:39.019
sure you're expecting many compliments. But as far

00:32:39.029 --> 00:32:42.989
as that, I am opposed to the increase just like everybody

00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:46.578
else for various reasons. But the only good thing I

00:32:46.588 --> 00:32:49.709
can give you credit for is that cute little climate

00:32:49.719 --> 00:32:53.598
credit a couple of times a year. Uh But I'm in tier

00:32:53.608 --> 00:32:57.239
one and so you might think, well, you have no complaints

00:32:57.250 --> 00:33:00.279
lady, but again, tier one, I'm in the middle of tier

00:33:00.289 --> 00:33:03.789
one and I don't leave my lights on night and day and

00:33:03.799 --> 00:33:07.608
day and night. But um, I, I still feel that I have

00:33:07.618 --> 00:33:11.328
to. I'm sorry, I didn't give my name. It's um, Avis

00:33:11.338 --> 00:33:21.130
Peterson A Vis Peterson pe T er, son. And I did be

00:33:21.140 --> 00:33:24.689
having the name Avis. I do not have any Teslas for

00:33:24.699 --> 00:33:29.170
rent at this time. So, um I also, I'm in the peninsula

00:33:29.180 --> 00:33:32.689
area. I was smart enough never to buy a property in

00:33:32.699 --> 00:33:37.219
the hillside. But again, it's just like everybody else

00:33:37.229 --> 00:33:41.680
and this is kind of deja vu because last night I participated

00:33:41.689 --> 00:33:46.239
in the AT&T uh denying their applications. Now they

00:33:46.250 --> 00:33:50.469
are different obviously. But the bottom line is, it's

00:33:50.479 --> 00:33:53.779
all about, you know, complaining about the executives

00:33:53.789 --> 00:33:59.299
at the top making humongous salaries. Well, the customers

00:33:59.309 --> 00:34:03.019
are, you know, are, are paying for it. It's like putting

00:34:03.029 --> 00:34:07.039
profits over the customer and like I said, it's a little

00:34:07.049 --> 00:34:09.619
different than AT&T, at least you're not, you know

00:34:09.628 --> 00:34:14.320
cutting the service, but it's the same bottom line

00:34:14.469 --> 00:34:18.750
And if anybody looks up the salaries of these AT&T

00:34:18.760 --> 00:34:22.070
executives and I'm not an A and T fan either. So that

00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:26.039
makes it even worse. But, um, and maybe the service

00:34:26.050 --> 00:34:30.079
isn't as good as se although I do have good service

00:34:30.090 --> 00:34:33.278
from them. So I can't complain. But the bottom line

00:34:33.289 --> 00:34:36.148
is, it's what they're making at the top. And I think

00:34:36.157 --> 00:34:39.248
that's what's annoying all of us and I don't want to

00:34:39.259 --> 00:34:44.079
be redundant, but I do feel that it's profits over

00:34:44.088 --> 00:34:47.677
the customer, especially when you see the salaries

00:34:47.688 --> 00:34:50.789
the compensation, I mean, besides the salary, there's

00:34:50.798 --> 00:34:56.708
the bonus and there's the stocks and uh it's just ongoing

00:34:57.159 --> 00:35:01.389
So, um, like I said, I'm very pleased that you, you

00:35:01.398 --> 00:35:05.030
opened this up to the public knowing you would not

00:35:05.039 --> 00:35:09.320
get many compliments or if any, but I do give you credit

00:35:09.329 --> 00:35:12.228
for opening this up to the public because it's not

00:35:12.239 --> 00:35:16.590
gonna be easy for you. Thank you so much. Thank you

00:35:16.599 --> 00:35:22.139
Miss Peterson uh operator. Next caller, please.

00:35:22.139 --> 00:35:25.719
The next caller is Victoria Hernandez. Your line is

00:35:25.728 --> 00:35:29.728
open.

00:35:29.728 --> 00:35:34.090
Good evening. Uh This is Victoria Hernandez V I CTO

00:35:34.099 --> 00:35:40.429
Ria Hernandez H er Nandez. And um I'm calling from

00:35:40.438 --> 00:35:44.829
Mission Viejo. Um Good evening. I'm the Executive Director

00:35:44.840 --> 00:35:47.489
of the South Orange County Economic Coalition. And

00:35:47.500 --> 00:35:49.389
firstly, I would like to thank you for providing the

00:35:49.398 --> 00:35:51.949
opportunity to comment in this general rate case hearing

00:35:51.958 --> 00:35:54.570
on behalf of so sex, the South Orange County Economic

00:35:54.579 --> 00:35:57.409
Coalition. I like to voice our support for Southern

00:35:57.418 --> 00:36:00.179
California Edison and the proposals they have put forward

00:36:00.889 --> 00:36:05.289
um since 1969. So has been the leading voice of the

00:36:05.300 --> 00:36:08.409
business and economics um community in South Orange

00:36:08.418 --> 00:36:12.719
County and we really focus on economic vitality and

00:36:12.728 --> 00:36:14.889
we have greatly appreciated the enduring partnership

00:36:14.898 --> 00:36:17.610
with Edison and our mutual goal to protect South Orange

00:36:17.619 --> 00:36:20.639
County's exceptional quality of life. Edison is making

00:36:20.648 --> 00:36:23.909
a commendable effort to invest in much needed infrastructure

00:36:23.958 --> 00:36:26.769
that will help the modernization of California's energy

00:36:26.780 --> 00:36:29.579
grid. They have also made substantial investments in

00:36:29.590 --> 00:36:32.889
wildfire mitigation for which they should be applauded

00:36:33.360 --> 00:36:36.449
And we know that this is important as California moves

00:36:36.458 --> 00:36:39.719
towards a future that would necessitate greater dependence

00:36:39.728 --> 00:36:43.539
on the electric grid. We have to believe that the proposals

00:36:43.550 --> 00:36:47.590
presented by Edison will greatly help California meet

00:36:47.599 --> 00:36:50.309
these climate and energy goals while also allowing

00:36:50.320 --> 00:36:53.168
Edison to provide safer and more reliable services

00:36:53.179 --> 00:36:55.719
to South Orange County. We hope the CPUC will see the

00:36:55.728 --> 00:36:57.829
value in these proposals and we look forward to their

00:36:57.840 --> 00:37:01.579
implementation. Thank you so much.

00:37:01.579 --> 00:37:06.070
Thank you, operator. Next caller, please.

00:37:06.070 --> 00:37:10.010
The the next caller is Kelly Gary, your lines open

00:37:12.188 --> 00:37:15.019
Thank you very much for taking my call. My name is

00:37:15.030 --> 00:37:21.489
Kelly. Kelley. Gary Geary again. Thank you for providing

00:37:21.500 --> 00:37:24.840
this opportunity. Um I just want to go back in time

00:37:24.849 --> 00:37:26.820
Uh

00:37:26.820 --> 00:37:30.820
a bit. Um Sees model was or still is good service square

00:37:30.829 --> 00:37:34.199
dealing and courteous treatment during the eighties

00:37:34.208 --> 00:37:37.378
See had superb customer service that was emphasized

00:37:37.389 --> 00:37:39.679
in their management level down through their entry

00:37:39.728 --> 00:37:43.478
level positions. My concern is with the current rates

00:37:43.820 --> 00:37:46.909
and the inability to conveniently and efficiently receive

00:37:46.918 --> 00:37:49.398
customer service. If you get through the line, they

00:37:49.409 --> 00:37:53.559
refer you to the internet. If you go through the internet

00:37:53.570 --> 00:37:56.719
they tell you to call. So then you go through Facebook

00:37:56.728 --> 00:37:58.820
so you have to go through the instant messaging and

00:37:58.829 --> 00:38:01.829
they tell you to go back and call them. So it's round

00:38:01.840 --> 00:38:06.570
robin and it's really frustrating. Uh Also what is

00:38:06.579 --> 00:38:10.019
the current baseline rate for gas, gas, gas, electric

00:38:10.050 --> 00:38:13.269
and all electric service respectively. The tiered rate

00:38:13.280 --> 00:38:16.579
confuses what used to be clearly the baseline rate

00:38:16.590 --> 00:38:19.510
that allowed for the basics, lighting, refrigeration

00:38:19.519 --> 00:38:23.478
heating and cooling. The more recent tiered rate shows

00:38:23.489 --> 00:38:26.000
the middle tier and the third tier were about the same

00:38:26.010 --> 00:38:28.519
rate or near the same rate, which doesn't emphasize

00:38:28.530 --> 00:38:31.570
the need to conserve. I usually stay within the first

00:38:31.579 --> 00:38:33.849
tier, but I'm concerned that those bumping into the

00:38:33.860 --> 00:38:39.219
2nd, 3rd tiers are if I can say fairly, not paying

00:38:39.780 --> 00:38:43.409
more for their higher electric consumption, I never

00:38:43.418 --> 00:38:45.909
could get a professional response from see regarding

00:38:45.918 --> 00:38:48.610
whether the tiered rates increased decreased or it

00:38:48.619 --> 00:38:51.750
didn't affect the current baseline rate. They expected

00:38:51.760 --> 00:38:54.739
me to find the rate packages on my own and glean through

00:38:54.750 --> 00:38:59.619
all the corpo now, I understand that California utility

00:38:59.628 --> 00:39:04.840
companies plan to go into income based rates. Will

00:39:04.849 --> 00:39:07.458
the income based rates consider only the ratepayer

00:39:07.469 --> 00:39:11.250
listed on the account or will the income base rate

00:39:11.260 --> 00:39:14.679
take into account multiple family incomes? For instance

00:39:14.688 --> 00:39:18.250
a multiple family household whose usage far exceeds

00:39:18.260 --> 00:39:22.239
a dual resident income, but the multiple family income

00:39:22.250 --> 00:39:25.349
is in a lower bracket than the dual resident home.

00:39:25.360 --> 00:39:29.639
Will the multiple family electric, they'll be charged

00:39:29.648 --> 00:39:33.728
less than the dual residents household. Uh My new bracket

00:39:33.739 --> 00:39:36.708
will cause my bill to go higher regardless of my current

00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:41.188
conservation effort I don't use have residual electricity

00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:44.469
running. I turn off my coffee pot until needed. I turn

00:39:44.478 --> 00:39:47.329
off my microwave until needed. My router is turned

00:39:47.340 --> 00:39:50.030
off until needed. My water heater is turned off until

00:39:50.039 --> 00:39:53.708
needed. So the water heater I only have on maybe an

00:39:53.719 --> 00:39:56.418
average of two hours a day. I don't leave it on 24

00:39:56.429 --> 00:40:00.628
7 and I have a very small refrigerator freezer with

00:40:00.639 --> 00:40:03.909
no ice maker and my unit is around 1000 square feet

00:40:04.918 --> 00:40:08.110
In conclusion, if the utility companies still plan

00:40:08.119 --> 00:40:12.409
to go to income based rates, can the public take this

00:40:12.418 --> 00:40:15.789
to the voting booth before a decision like this major

00:40:15.800 --> 00:40:20.300
rate change go through? Thank you. Thank you, Miss

00:40:20.309 --> 00:40:25.530
Gary. Um I would like to note that the income based

00:40:25.539 --> 00:40:28.449
rate proposal is not before the commission in this

00:40:28.458 --> 00:40:32.550
proceeding. If you would like to provide comment that

00:40:32.559 --> 00:40:35.989
goes into the record of that proceeding, I recommend

00:40:36.000 --> 00:40:38.260
that you reach out to our public advisor and they can

00:40:38.269 --> 00:40:41.909
let you know the appropriate proceeding number um where

00:40:41.918 --> 00:40:44.409
you can submit those comments. All right. Thank you

00:40:45.050 --> 00:40:50.179
Thank you. Um operator, next caller, please. If anything

00:40:50.949 --> 00:40:56.719
it still sends up,

00:40:56.719 --> 00:41:00.849
operator,

00:41:00.849 --> 00:41:11.539
your line is open.

00:41:11.539 --> 00:41:21.188
I'll go to the next question. Yes.

00:41:21.188 --> 00:41:25.110
And this comment comes from Dorothy Boulla. Your line

00:41:25.119 --> 00:41:33.478
is open. Yes. Uh Dorothy is Dorothy Guillaume is Guillaume

00:41:33.708 --> 00:41:36.909
and I really don't think the middle class is going

00:41:36.918 --> 00:41:42.260
to be able to sustain the bills much longer. Uh More

00:41:42.269 --> 00:41:46.159
and more people are leaving California and it's, it's

00:41:46.168 --> 00:41:51.239
terrible. It really is. We have so many poor that are

00:41:51.250 --> 00:41:58.610
we have to pay for. And, uh, it's, it's gotten increasing

00:41:58.619 --> 00:42:02.349
I've already had my bills increased in the last couple

00:42:02.360 --> 00:42:06.539
of years. My electricity and it just doesn't seem to

00:42:06.550 --> 00:42:12.059
end, uh, when, when is the breaking point? Really?

00:42:12.530 --> 00:42:16.918
I don't think it's too far in the future. You know

00:42:16.929 --> 00:42:21.829
the government is trying to keep, uh, interest or things

00:42:21.840 --> 00:42:27.050
down for to 2%. Wouldn't it be great if the companies

00:42:27.059 --> 00:42:32.349
would not exceed that? 2%? Anyhow, that's all I can

00:42:32.360 --> 00:42:37.449
say. It's, I'm a senior and uh all my friends, it's

00:42:38.250 --> 00:42:42.519
going to hurt very much. Thank you. That's all I have

00:42:43.269 --> 00:42:46.840
Thank you for calling in um operator. Next caller,

00:42:46.849 --> 00:42:51.648
please. You next caller comes from Marcelo, your lines

00:42:51.668 --> 00:42:55.269
open. Oh,

00:42:55.269 --> 00:43:00.418
hi. My name is Marcela Ayala. That's MA R ce LL a

00:43:00.739 --> 00:43:05.119
last name Ayala A Yal A, I'm a resident of Pasadena

00:43:05.128 --> 00:43:11.199
California. I am a homeowner and I'm also very supportive

00:43:11.208 --> 00:43:16.469
of this um uh rate increase for a sustainable future

00:43:16.478 --> 00:43:22.119
Um I just have a heart and passion for um protecting

00:43:22.128 --> 00:43:25.389
our earth and greening our earth and, and electrifying

00:43:25.398 --> 00:43:29.860
everything in order to um prevent um you know, the

00:43:29.958 --> 00:43:35.719
environmental um impacts that uh we are generating

00:43:35.728 --> 00:43:40.469
due to just our general use of in creating and greenhouse

00:43:40.478 --> 00:43:45.449
gasses. So just wanted to just provide a vote of support

00:43:45.458 --> 00:43:50.179
for the program more than anything just for a sustainable

00:43:50.188 --> 00:43:55.030
green future and that's it. Thank you very much. Thank

00:43:55.039 --> 00:44:02.829
you. Um, operator, next caller, please.

00:44:02.829 --> 00:44:05.628
Our next scholar comes from Gus Lomas. Your line is

00:44:05.639 --> 00:44:07.860
open.

00:44:07.860 --> 00:44:14.280
Uh Good evening. Uh Mike Chuck, Mike Chuck over.

00:44:14.280 --> 00:44:17.659
All right. And my name is, thank you. Uh My name is

00:44:17.668 --> 00:44:21.860
Gus Lama G US L A MA s come from Saint Gabriel

00:44:22.309 --> 00:44:26.929
Uh I'm affected by the proposed uh cost increase by

00:44:26.938 --> 00:44:29.159
S ce.

00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:34.719
Um Thank you to the commission for the swarm uh and

00:44:34.728 --> 00:44:37.889
allowing the public to have a say.

00:44:37.889 --> 00:44:42.050
Um I'm the second as a homeowner. I'm also, I also

00:44:42.059 --> 00:44:45.458
own a secondary property that's affected by these increases

00:44:45.820 --> 00:44:49.898
Exort proposed increases. I wanna ask the commission

00:44:49.909 --> 00:44:53.119
are you considering the operating cost that se ha uh

00:44:53.668 --> 00:44:59.418
uses, what is a profit margin? Now, what is a pro project

00:44:59.429 --> 00:45:03.250
or profit margin when these are, these are increased

00:45:04.438 --> 00:45:08.878
Are you able to have seen the CEO salary or the board

00:45:08.889 --> 00:45:11.688
salaries?

00:45:11.688 --> 00:45:14.918
Uh I would like you to consider these things. Um I

00:45:14.929 --> 00:45:18.918
just roughly uh total these numbers up. Uh They're

00:45:18.929 --> 00:45:24.000
they're, they're, they will be receiving $3.86 billion

00:45:24.849 --> 00:45:27.579
uh over the next four years. I want you to consider

00:45:27.590 --> 00:45:31.590
that. Can't we split the difference or, or reduce that

00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:36.378
in half? Is that sustainable?

00:45:36.378 --> 00:45:38.619
And that's all I have to add? And thank you for your

00:45:38.628 --> 00:45:43.269
time. Thank you, Mr Lama, uh operator. Next caller

00:45:43.280 --> 00:45:48.228
please. Our next call is uh Lydia, your line is open

00:45:50.010 --> 00:45:54.188
My name is Lydia Light. I'm from the Arcadia California

00:45:54.539 --> 00:45:59.579
I understand uh the rate increase is required but 22.6%

00:45:59.590 --> 00:46:04.489
increase over the 2024. That is outrageous to majority

00:46:04.500 --> 00:46:11.269
of us. And uh I suggest that if anyone will audit or

00:46:11.280 --> 00:46:16.429
or supervise the see, you know, operation, what I can

00:46:16.438 --> 00:46:21.458
see is that for example, vegetation program

00:46:21.458 --> 00:46:27.789
in our area, they out outsourced to another company

00:46:27.878 --> 00:46:33.989
to do the uh tree tring the uh tree trimming operators

00:46:34.000 --> 00:46:38.188
They sit in the, the, their truck, you know, pretty

00:46:38.199 --> 00:46:42.909
much most of the time uh uh during the four hours window

00:46:42.918 --> 00:46:47.349
they were giving to us. So the time they work probably

00:46:47.360 --> 00:46:52.030
the most is the one hour and the, the tree they trim

00:46:52.039 --> 00:46:56.840
it, you know, it is not only one side and the other

00:46:56.849 --> 00:46:59.969
side, they didn't trim it and no one, you know, come

00:46:59.978 --> 00:47:05.239
to a supervisor or anything to me that is very inefficient

00:47:05.250 --> 00:47:10.918
operation. And that's what all I can observe can see

00:47:10.929 --> 00:47:14.239
I don't know about the rest of the company. How do

00:47:14.250 --> 00:47:18.619
they operate? Do they do it effectively or efficiently

00:47:18.840 --> 00:47:22.489
And that is the question and I think that, you know

00:47:22.500 --> 00:47:27.579
the rate increase is just too outrageous to uh majority

00:47:27.590 --> 00:47:32.929
of the, of the people and especially the California

00:47:32.938 --> 00:47:38.500
wants to um promote, you know, people to use electricity

00:47:38.780 --> 00:47:42.099
If this is going to go on, who can afford it. I

00:47:42.110 --> 00:47:47.099
think most of the people will be moving out of California

00:47:47.239 --> 00:47:52.398
and that is very sad. So I like the, you know, CPUC

00:47:52.409 --> 00:47:56.938
to help us, you know, to really review and then to

00:47:56.949 --> 00:48:01.648
make sure they did, you know, do the, the way as what

00:48:01.659 --> 00:48:06.659
we are doing, try to save money, save everywhere we

00:48:06.668 --> 00:48:12.119
can, you know, to cut down the energy usage, to save

00:48:12.128 --> 00:48:16.719
energy. Thank you. Thank you

00:48:16.719 --> 00:48:23.579
operator. Next caller, please.

00:48:23.579 --> 00:48:28.530
Our next call is comes from Valerie Gomez. Your lines

00:48:28.539 --> 00:48:31.599
open.

00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:37.769
Thank you. My name is Valerie Gomez. Va Larie Gomez

00:48:37.780 --> 00:48:42.820
Gomez.

00:48:42.820 --> 00:48:46.000
I'm the CEO of the Y MC A West Gabriel Valley in

00:48:46.010 --> 00:48:49.320
Alhambra. And we at the Y MC A West Gabriel Valley

00:48:49.329 --> 00:48:53.918
have been serving our community since 1912. Um I'm

00:48:53.929 --> 00:48:57.039
here to share that we need our grid to be reliable

00:48:57.050 --> 00:48:59.978
which requires more investment for maintenance and

00:48:59.989 --> 00:49:05.039
upgrades resilient, which in turn hardens the grid

00:49:05.050 --> 00:49:08.039
against extreme weather events and keeps our community

00:49:08.050 --> 00:49:11.199
safe from fires

00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:14.978
and ready for the increase in demand for electrification

00:49:14.989 --> 00:49:18.668
from electric vehicles and electric ready buildings

00:49:19.090 --> 00:49:24.219
Our new 10,000 square feet children's center is home

00:49:24.228 --> 00:49:28.418
to our new preschool. All 10,000 square feet are powered

00:49:28.429 --> 00:49:31.739
by Southern California Edison. Our main building is

00:49:31.750 --> 00:49:36.929
35,000 plus square feet. We serve seniors whose memberships

00:49:36.938 --> 00:49:40.320
are paid by third party payment. Families who rely

00:49:40.329 --> 00:49:44.050
on our Y MC A to provide health and wellness and to

00:49:44.059 --> 00:49:46.679
provide hot showers for many who are trying to cut

00:49:46.688 --> 00:49:50.599
down on home costs. So they come to the uh to the

00:49:50.610 --> 00:49:53.800
y to shower and many of our homeless families that

00:49:53.809 --> 00:49:56.869
are recommended and referred to us by the surrounding

00:49:56.878 --> 00:50:00.019
school districts and police departments for the opportunity

00:50:00.028 --> 00:50:05.967
To take their daily shower for us. Southern California

00:50:05.979 --> 00:50:11.667
Edison is a trusted name in our community. In closing

00:50:11.758 --> 00:50:15.387
we are all, we all understand the cost of living in

00:50:15.399 --> 00:50:18.538
Southern California. And my heart goes out for all

00:50:18.549 --> 00:50:23.108
of us who have a challenge and paying the bills. But

00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:28.448
overall, our challenges do not compensate for the safety

00:50:28.459 --> 00:50:32.437
that we need for our community, our community as well

00:50:32.448 --> 00:50:37.117
as our why is a safe haven and an alternative choice

00:50:37.128 --> 00:50:41.759
for our community to cut costs with utility bills is

00:50:41.769 --> 00:50:45.838
to come to our y again. I wanted to share that Southern

00:50:45.848 --> 00:50:49.259
California Edison is a trusted name in our community

00:50:49.649 --> 00:50:54.067
Let's keep that legacy ready and resilient. Safety

00:50:54.079 --> 00:50:58.098
is a cost we can afford and I can share with you

00:50:58.269 --> 00:51:01.149
that serving our community. Seeing our members come

00:51:01.158 --> 00:51:08.139
in daily to cut costs at home. We need that. We need

00:51:08.148 --> 00:51:11.148
Southern California Edison to be ready and resilient

00:51:11.157 --> 00:51:15.769
to serve our community. I can't share enough of how

00:51:15.779 --> 00:51:19.368
important it is for us to keep moving forward for the

00:51:19.378 --> 00:51:25.407
safety of the area of our community.

00:51:25.407 --> 00:51:29.978
Thank you MS Gomez uh operator. Next caller, please

00:51:31.368 --> 00:51:34.228
The next color comes from Simone Dasher. Your lines

00:51:34.238 --> 00:51:36.618
open.

00:51:36.618 --> 00:51:47.648
Hi, my name is Simone Dasher. Si Mone Dasher Dash.

00:51:47.657 --> 00:51:53.657
Er, I am calling you from Belmont, California, San

00:51:53.708 --> 00:52:00.088
Mateo County, San Francisco Bay area. I have own my

00:52:00.098 --> 00:52:07.598
home here for a very long time. I am 61 years old

00:52:07.889 --> 00:52:16.387
I am have a very tiny income. My husband is also working

00:52:16.398 --> 00:52:25.387
life and every cost that goes up with regards to utilities

00:52:25.398 --> 00:52:33.408
in general AT&T specifically at this moment a

00:52:33.408 --> 00:52:39.148
affects us because we don't know what it's going to

00:52:39.158 --> 00:52:44.099
be like. We, I I will echo other color sentiments that

00:52:44.107 --> 00:52:50.879
of doing everything in our power to conserve and predict

00:52:50.938 --> 00:53:00.229
and economize so that our utilities, our basic existence

00:53:00.238 --> 00:53:07.838
can continue. But given, given the way things are going

00:53:07.849 --> 00:53:12.168
I don't know why. And I also want to echo the sentiments

00:53:12.178 --> 00:53:15.588
of people that are saying that the people at the top

00:53:15.599 --> 00:53:20.607
are making awfully a lot of money which they are and

00:53:20.618 --> 00:53:25.849
those of us that are just regular people working regular

00:53:25.857 --> 00:53:32.238
jobs, we are not getting immense increases. If any

00:53:32.807 --> 00:53:39.769
we struggle month to month, year to year, depending

00:53:39.777 --> 00:53:48.797
on the the climate of it seems the large companies

00:53:48.807 --> 00:53:53.198
deciding, well, we'd like to raise our rates um and

00:53:53.289 --> 00:54:02.519
potentially lower your services or not have any services

00:54:02.759 --> 00:54:07.479
available. And oh yes, we'd also like to be paid a

00:54:07.488 --> 00:54:10.777
whole heck of a lot more and I'm not quite sure what

00:54:10.789 --> 00:54:14.057
they're doing up there with all that money either,

00:54:15.527 --> 00:54:20.328
but I feel that it should be taken under account and

00:54:20.338 --> 00:54:24.309
please do remember that there are many, many seniors

00:54:24.317 --> 00:54:30.627
whose only means of communication is their AT&T landline

00:54:30.769 --> 00:54:35.107
they don't own cell phones, they don't own computers

00:54:35.458 --> 00:54:39.317
and that is their sole means of communication. And

00:54:39.328 --> 00:54:43.968
I did read the information

00:54:43.968 --> 00:54:49.127
received online and now I'm done. Bye. Thank you. Thank

00:54:49.138 --> 00:54:52.309
you, Miss, er, um, and I do want to point out that

00:54:52.317 --> 00:54:57.999
this hearing um is for Southern California Edison Company's

00:54:58.007 --> 00:55:02.388
General rate case if you are seeking to on that regarding

00:55:02.398 --> 00:55:06.559
the AT&T application, um I recommend that you reach

00:55:06.567 --> 00:55:09.408
out to our public advisor and they can give you the

00:55:09.418 --> 00:55:13.888
preceding information. Let me tell you, I have that

00:55:13.898 --> 00:55:19.179
email and it directed me to this thing over and over

00:55:19.189 --> 00:55:21.848
and over again.

00:55:21.848 --> 00:55:25.019
So I would like to Miss Dasher if you would like to

00:55:25.067 --> 00:55:28.918
uh provide comment regarding the AT&T application.

00:55:28.929 --> 00:55:32.047
I recommend you reach out to our public advisor, public

00:55:32.059 --> 00:55:37.877
dot Advisor at cpu.c.gov and they can direct you to

00:55:37.888 --> 00:55:47.978
the appropriate public dot advisor at ccuc.c.gov.

00:55:47.978 --> 00:55:53.088
Ok. I will. Because if you saw the email I was looking

00:55:53.098 --> 00:55:57.127
at and I am not one of the technologically challenged

00:55:57.138 --> 00:56:02.679
people. It did not imply that anywhere in the email

00:56:02.689 --> 00:56:07.689
I am staring at, ok, just for your information. If

00:56:07.697 --> 00:56:11.838
anybody else like me, goals, they're staring in an

00:56:11.848 --> 00:56:14.958
email and they're not attack on me either and they're

00:56:14.968 --> 00:56:17.888
going wait. What? Huh? What are you talking about?

00:56:18.627 --> 00:56:25.179
So, anyhow. Ok, thank you. I have noted that email

00:56:25.189 --> 00:56:28.929
and I will send them an email. Thank you very much

00:56:29.119 --> 00:56:34.067
You're welcome. Um Operator, next caller, please. Our

00:56:34.098 --> 00:56:43.377
next caller is Mr Burke. Your line is open.

00:56:43.377 --> 00:56:50.228
Hi, thank you. My name is Edward Burke Dwar DB Urke

00:56:51.648 --> 00:56:55.939
And I just want to echo a, a couple of things that

00:56:55.947 --> 00:57:02.429
were said before but, but also um uh

00:57:02.429 --> 00:57:07.328
a point of gone back and looked at the applications

00:57:07.338 --> 00:57:13.239
for rate increase notices that I received in 2023 and

00:57:13.249 --> 00:57:18.098
I received six of them. The one we're talking about

00:57:18.107 --> 00:57:23.947
tonight is just one of those six. So what's always

00:57:23.958 --> 00:57:29.838
frustrated me is it, it doesn't seem like Edison works

00:57:29.848 --> 00:57:33.288
to a business plan.

00:57:33.288 --> 00:57:39.148
I don't understand why they can't forecast out five

00:57:39.158 --> 00:57:44.168
years, 10 years like they've apparently decided to

00:57:44.179 --> 00:57:47.918
do regarding the subject we're talking about tonight

00:57:47.929 --> 00:57:53.697
But I guess my question is, is this going to be it

00:57:54.607 --> 00:57:58.148
if this is approved? Am I going to stop seeing these

00:57:58.158 --> 00:58:04.218
notices in my bill 4 to 6 times a year asking me

00:58:04.228 --> 00:58:12.478
for more money? Um II, I just think it's, it's appalling

00:58:12.978 --> 00:58:16.728
that anybody would be allowed to run business this

00:58:16.739 --> 00:58:22.588
way and be able to stay in business supported by rate

00:58:22.598 --> 00:58:30.019
increases levied on the customers. I, I guess I wrapping

00:58:30.028 --> 00:58:36.368
up here, you've got four years worth of increases that

00:58:36.378 --> 00:58:41.177
you're asking for. The first year is 22 point this

00:58:41.187 --> 00:58:47.288
person. Um, I, I don't understand why you can't spread

00:58:47.298 --> 00:58:51.908
that out over the next four or five years. So that

00:58:51.918 --> 00:58:57.498
there isn't this, uh, fire hose customers mouth in

00:58:57.508 --> 00:59:04.729
the first year. Um, and I guess lastly, I've, I've

00:59:04.738 --> 00:59:10.788
got solar and I started keeping track of rates over

00:59:10.798 --> 00:59:16.427
the last 10 years. Edison's rates have doubled since

00:59:16.778 --> 00:59:23.567
2014. So that's 100% increase over 10 years, which

00:59:23.577 --> 00:59:30.589
is 10% per year, which is well above inflation for

00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:36.918
the rest of us. So I, I would ask the CPUC to

00:59:36.927 --> 00:59:42.067
get Edison under control.

00:59:42.067 --> 00:59:44.788
Thank you.

00:59:44.788 --> 00:59:50.508
Thank you, Mr Burke. Um Operator, next caller,

00:59:50.508 --> 00:59:52.988
our next call, it comes from Mr Whitehead. Your line

00:59:52.998 --> 00:59:55.677
is open.

00:59:55.677 --> 01:00:00.498
Good evening. So first off, it'd be really more impressive

01:00:00.508 --> 01:00:03.628
If we didn't have like safe power days, it'd be nice

01:00:03.638 --> 01:00:06.817
if we felt like uh this rate increase would help build

01:00:06.827 --> 01:00:09.138
new power plants. So that way we had a more dependable

01:00:09.148 --> 01:00:11.697
grid and we didn't have to receive emails about not

01:00:11.709 --> 01:00:15.697
using power. And then secondly, it feels like uh California

01:00:15.709 --> 01:00:18.528
is building a bit of a trap for us because they want

01:00:18.538 --> 01:00:21.048
us to have electric cars. But the rates are going up

01:00:21.317 --> 01:00:24.528
and uh I'm under the impression the state would perhaps

01:00:24.538 --> 01:00:27.599
prefer we have electric stoves and electric water heaters

01:00:27.609 --> 01:00:30.658
But with these rates, we're better off continuing to

01:00:30.668 --> 01:00:34.339
use natural gas and such. And then I was also unimpressed

01:00:34.349 --> 01:00:37.599
when we were told to take a look at the CPUC website

01:00:37.609 --> 01:00:40.048
because the income based stuff. But it'd be nice if

01:00:40.057 --> 01:00:42.388
we actually were given a phone number, a resource to

01:00:42.398 --> 01:00:46.019
go to for it. And then the last part is President Biden

01:00:46.028 --> 01:00:48.508
seems to be all upset with landlords about their junk

01:00:48.519 --> 01:00:51.807
fees. But I hope landlords that are falling prey to

01:00:51.817 --> 01:00:56.557
a B 1482 start passing on their responsibility for

01:00:56.567 --> 01:00:59.238
the electricity to their tenants. And I think that's

01:00:59.248 --> 01:01:01.158
about it because they gave you plenty to think about

01:01:05.898 --> 01:01:09.398
Ok, thank you, Mr Whitehead operator. Next caller,

01:01:09.408 --> 01:01:19.618
please

01:01:19.618 --> 01:01:23.658
passing on responsibility for the 10. And I think that's

01:01:23.827 --> 01:01:26.118
about it,

01:01:26.118 --> 01:01:30.687
Kathy Lubinsky. Your lines open.

01:01:30.687 --> 01:01:34.219
Thank you, Mr Whitehead operator. Next caller, please

01:01:43.317 --> 01:01:46.577
Did I get the court reporter?

01:01:46.577 --> 01:01:49.408
I, the last thing I heard was the operator telling

01:01:49.418 --> 01:01:52.288
Kathy Lubinski her line was open. Did you hear that

01:01:52.298 --> 01:01:57.317
as well? Hello? Yes, I did. Yes. Are you able to hear

01:01:57.327 --> 01:01:59.687
me now?

01:01:59.687 --> 01:02:03.089
Yes, we are, but it sounds like there's some noise

01:02:03.099 --> 01:02:09.408
in the background. I'm sorry, what?

01:02:09.408 --> 01:02:13.057
Wait, I'll move away from my ipad. I'm watching. My

01:02:13.067 --> 01:02:17.937
name is Kathy Lubinsky. Kathy, last name Lub as in

01:02:17.947 --> 01:02:24.807
boy Insky. Are you hearing me? I am hearing you. It

01:02:24.817 --> 01:02:27.447
sounds like there's some other audio in the background

01:02:27.459 --> 01:02:31.609
No, that was the ipad that I had you all on. Um

01:02:31.648 --> 01:02:35.748
I moved away from there. Ok. All right. Please pro

01:02:35.758 --> 01:02:40.827
proceed. M le. Ok. So, um, I'm retired. Um, I'll be

01:02:40.839 --> 01:02:45.947
75 in June. I hope I live in West Hollywood and, um

01:02:45.959 --> 01:02:50.057
I'm on a very low income mostly from social security

01:02:50.238 --> 01:02:53.229
and I do have some dividends that help me with that

01:02:53.719 --> 01:02:57.589
Um, the building I live in is rent control from way

01:02:57.599 --> 01:03:02.628
back. I've been in this apartment since 1989. I can't

01:03:02.638 --> 01:03:07.447
afford to go anywhere else. And so, um, I'm stuck with

01:03:08.089 --> 01:03:10.969
Southern California Edison and I'm stuck with socal

01:03:11.177 --> 01:03:16.788
gas. Um, and one of my comments is I'm on the care

01:03:16.798 --> 01:03:22.827
program. However, even with a care discount last month

01:03:23.269 --> 01:03:28.709
um, my March 7th bill that was due March 7th, I had

01:03:28.719 --> 01:03:34.288
a care discount of $30.25. My bill was still $71.04

01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:40.769
and I'm on the toud 4 to 9 p.m. care program with

01:03:40.778 --> 01:03:45.168
S ce the cost varies by the time of day. So my

01:03:45.177 --> 01:03:48.577
highest use is usually in the off peak, which is the

01:03:48.589 --> 01:03:55.067
the least amount of cost per kilowatt hour. Um And

01:03:55.077 --> 01:04:01.519
now I'm seeing that the 2025 proposed increase is 22.6%

01:04:01.798 --> 01:04:06.187
over 2024 rate. I don't know how I can afford that

01:04:06.567 --> 01:04:10.697
And then for the following three years, 2026 2027 and

01:04:10.709 --> 01:04:15.849
2028 it's 6% increase off of over the rate for each

01:04:15.859 --> 01:04:20.988
previous year. So it's compounded. It's not 6% increase

01:04:20.998 --> 01:04:24.748
Over what we have, you know, we'll have in 2025 it's

01:04:24.758 --> 01:04:29.099
6% on each of the others. So I don't know how I'm

01:04:29.109 --> 01:04:33.359
going to be able to afford any of this. It's, it's

01:04:33.368 --> 01:04:39.089
beyond me and I live alone and I can't move anywhere

01:04:39.099 --> 01:04:43.817
else, so I'm stuck. I hope that Southern California

01:04:45.729 --> 01:04:49.447
considers seniors and people on limited income. Thank

01:04:49.459 --> 01:04:53.109
you. Thank you for taking the time to call in today

01:04:53.888 --> 01:04:57.798
Um, operator. Next caller, please. Arnett's collar

01:04:57.807 --> 01:05:02.908
comes from uh Pete Durban. Your line is open.

01:05:02.908 --> 01:05:08.668
Hello, my name is Heath Durbin. Hea th Durbin Durbin

01:05:08.947 --> 01:05:11.729
Um Quick question. What's the percentage I know like

01:05:11.738 --> 01:05:14.898
with util uh the trash company and what not? You have

01:05:14.908 --> 01:05:19.849
to get a 10% or something objection um, to prevent

01:05:19.859 --> 01:05:24.538
the weight increase. What is the rule with the puc

01:05:27.028 --> 01:05:31.109
I am not aware of such a rule, Mr Derby with. Ok

01:05:31.118 --> 01:05:34.557
So it's just, um, I know just, it may be a city

01:05:34.567 --> 01:05:36.807
war at my, at our location, but I thought there was

01:05:36.849 --> 01:05:39.368
a part of the, one of the acts that if there's so

01:05:39.378 --> 01:05:43.538
much objection. Um I'm just calling to object to the

01:05:43.548 --> 01:05:45.538
rate increase. I know that if we don't have enough

01:05:45.548 --> 01:05:48.599
people telling you guys that it's not acceptable, it's

01:05:48.609 --> 01:05:50.628
just gonna get rubble stamped and it probably will

01:05:50.638 --> 01:05:55.177
get rubble stamped anyhow. But um we need to be calling

01:05:55.187 --> 01:05:57.849
and complaining about it um with inflation the way

01:05:57.859 --> 01:06:01.248
it is right now, the government costs and the government

01:06:01.258 --> 01:06:03.807
and utilities are the ones that should be holding back

01:06:03.817 --> 01:06:06.118
They are the ones that should have been the most prepared

01:06:06.618 --> 01:06:11.817
for, um, taking a hit when we're have high inflation

01:06:11.827 --> 01:06:13.947
and they should not be waiting. They should be the

01:06:13.959 --> 01:06:17.378
ones that are holding the line. Um, and so it's wrong

01:06:17.388 --> 01:06:20.479
that they would be asking for increases during a time

01:06:20.488 --> 01:06:23.459
of high inflation. They should have plenty in their

01:06:23.469 --> 01:06:26.738
coffers from all of the money they've made in the past

01:06:27.378 --> 01:06:31.769
And um unfortunately, we've let them not keep the stuff

01:06:31.778 --> 01:06:34.849
up. And so now when we have a time of high inflation

01:06:35.089 --> 01:06:39.599
they want to improve their equipment and want to stay

01:06:39.609 --> 01:06:42.479
up with inflation when they should be holding the line

01:06:42.488 --> 01:06:45.677
and helping reduce inflation and helping keep inflation

01:06:45.687 --> 01:06:51.719
from going sky high. Um So that's my objection. Thank

01:06:51.729 --> 01:06:57.359
you. Thank you, Mr Durban. Um Before we call on our

01:06:57.368 --> 01:07:01.028
next caller, um just a reminder that if you are on

01:07:01.038 --> 01:07:04.199
the phone line and would like to provide public comment

01:07:04.208 --> 01:07:08.127
please press star one. And then the operator will place

01:07:08.137 --> 01:07:11.867
you in the queue of speakers. Operator. Will you please

01:07:11.877 --> 01:07:16.627
call the next speaker? Yes. Our next speaker is Emma

01:07:16.637 --> 01:07:20.058
Fernandez. Your line is open.

01:07:20.058 --> 01:07:23.387
Hi. Uh My name is Emma Hernandez. I'm from the Southeast

01:07:23.419 --> 01:07:27.887
Community Development Corporation and um uh in our

01:07:27.899 --> 01:07:30.458
community, we're, we're from Southeast Los Angeles

01:07:30.508 --> 01:07:33.949
and uh our, our homes built so many years ago that

01:07:33.958 --> 01:07:37.328
they really need improvements as far as electrification

01:07:37.337 --> 01:07:41.218
And as that happens, as time passes, what's going to

01:07:41.228 --> 01:07:44.169
happen is that we're going to, it's very clear that

01:07:44.179 --> 01:07:46.488
our infrastructure is not going to be able to hold

01:07:46.498 --> 01:07:49.107
up to what's needed. I mean, we've already seen it

01:07:49.117 --> 01:07:52.238
with, with the need for improvements like in broadband

01:07:52.248 --> 01:07:54.117
I mean, we're kind of paralleling what's happening

01:07:54.127 --> 01:07:58.048
there. We, you know, this infrastructure was built

01:07:58.058 --> 01:08:00.669
during a time with electricity really, you know, was

01:08:00.679 --> 01:08:04.399
just getting used and now we really have all kinds

01:08:04.409 --> 01:08:07.818
of things that are happening. We need, given the climate

01:08:07.828 --> 01:08:11.107
issues, we need, you know, air conditioners working

01:08:11.117 --> 01:08:15.837
we need, you know, improvements in our environment

01:08:15.847 --> 01:08:21.699
so that we're able to um to reduce the pollution and

01:08:21.708 --> 01:08:24.828
so forth. So in order to do that, we need the electricity

01:08:25.127 --> 01:08:27.699
we need cars that are electrified, we homes that are

01:08:27.708 --> 01:08:32.087
electrified. And so yes, I agree with some folks who

01:08:32.097 --> 01:08:35.097
said we need to continue using gas. I agree with that

01:08:35.107 --> 01:08:39.627
as well. However, right now, the main issue is electrification

01:08:40.318 --> 01:08:43.659
and yes, there's going to be rate increases. But if

01:08:43.669 --> 01:08:45.627
you look at the numbers and I know that we're talking

01:08:45.637 --> 01:08:48.607
about billions, but we are looking also at individual

01:08:48.617 --> 01:08:51.347
numbers, how much each individual is going to pay.

01:08:51.617 --> 01:08:55.498
And we do, we have to pitch in, we have to pitch

01:08:55.508 --> 01:08:58.828
in to make sure that our communities are, you know

01:08:58.837 --> 01:09:01.699
electrified appropriately. Our infrastructure can hold

01:09:01.708 --> 01:09:04.028
what we need it to hold so that we're able to have

01:09:04.159 --> 01:09:08.837
uh everybody join in on this, um uh you know, in improving

01:09:08.847 --> 01:09:11.538
our environment and making sure that we're all doing

01:09:11.548 --> 01:09:14.419
our fair share. And I will have to agree. There are

01:09:14.429 --> 01:09:16.808
times when we're feeling maybe, you know, things aren't

01:09:16.818 --> 01:09:19.488
going as well as we should economically, but we can't

01:09:19.498 --> 01:09:21.337
just look at that and go, ok, we're not going to pay

01:09:21.347 --> 01:09:24.558
into fixing our infrastructure. We must fix our infrastructure

01:09:24.649 --> 01:09:27.769
We can't allow, you know, for something to go wrong

01:09:27.873 --> 01:09:30.373
for us to then decide. Oh, now we need to fix it

01:09:30.383 --> 01:09:32.443
No, we need to make sure we fix it. Now. We already

01:09:32.453 --> 01:09:35.024
have the oath happening. We have fires going on. We

01:09:35.034 --> 01:09:37.853
have all types of pollution and so forth. We need to

01:09:37.863 --> 01:09:40.653
make these changes. So that's pretty much all I have

01:09:40.663 --> 01:09:42.814
to say. Thank you very much. I appreciate your time

01:09:44.189 --> 01:09:48.087
Thank you, Miss Hernandez operator. Next call, please

01:09:48.728 --> 01:09:51.978
Annette's color comes from Victoria BTA your lines

01:09:51.988 --> 01:09:53.978
open.

01:09:53.978 --> 01:10:00.298
Hello. Um Victoria is V I CTO Ria. Last name is Banta

01:10:00.659 --> 01:10:07.769
B like boy A NTA U. Um I'm a residential customer in

01:10:08.097 --> 01:10:12.498
Yucaipa, California. And um I have a question, I'm

01:10:12.508 --> 01:10:15.498
not sure if you're able to answer questions, but I

01:10:15.508 --> 01:10:19.478
people have been referring to recent rate increases

01:10:19.728 --> 01:10:24.439
and I'm curious, I'm confused. I guess why is there

01:10:24.449 --> 01:10:30.649
a hearing for this proposed increase and not of the

01:10:30.659 --> 01:10:36.058
recent other ones. Can you answer that tonight?

01:10:36.058 --> 01:10:39.788
I am not aware of what other increases you're referring

01:10:39.798 --> 01:10:44.439
to. We, the commission holds public participation hearings

01:10:44.449 --> 01:10:46.808
on a variety of different proceedings, but we don't

01:10:46.818 --> 01:10:49.107
always hold them for every single proceeding that comes

01:10:49.117 --> 01:10:53.087
before us. But without knowing the particulars, I I

01:10:53.097 --> 01:10:55.367
don't have any information, more information to provide

01:10:55.377 --> 01:10:57.958
you about why there was or was not a hearing in a

01:10:57.968 --> 01:11:03.208
specific case is, do you have any way of directing

01:11:03.708 --> 01:11:06.347
that question somewhere else where it could be answered

01:11:10.699 --> 01:11:12.978
You could try reaching out to our public adviser. If

01:11:12.988 --> 01:11:15.659
you have a specific proceeding in mind, they might

01:11:15.669 --> 01:11:18.117
be able to get you more information about that proceeding

01:11:18.679 --> 01:11:21.199
Ok? No, I'm not talking about a specific one. I'm,

01:11:21.208 --> 01:11:24.288
I'm referring to the ones that people the callers have

01:11:24.298 --> 01:11:27.728
referred to over the years, how we've had rate increases

01:11:27.988 --> 01:11:31.488
over the years that there hasn't been a hearing for

01:11:31.498 --> 01:11:35.028
about them. So those are and being general. What about

01:11:35.038 --> 01:11:39.228
the, those kinds of increases compared to this particular

01:11:39.238 --> 01:11:41.357
one?

01:11:41.357 --> 01:11:44.478
I can tell you that for Southern California Edison

01:11:44.488 --> 01:11:47.769
Company General rate cases, the commission does typically

01:11:47.778 --> 01:11:51.769
hold public participation hearings. Um But beyond that

01:11:52.367 --> 01:11:55.627
I don't really have any more information for you. Ok

01:11:55.758 --> 01:11:59.538
Um I do appreciate the opportunity for us to call in

01:11:59.548 --> 01:12:05.228
and, and express our concerns. Um I did have one another

01:12:05.238 --> 01:12:08.718
comment about the fact that there's no competition

01:12:08.728 --> 01:12:12.347
for Southern California Edison, it's like, you know

01:12:12.357 --> 01:12:15.429
it's not like we can go somewhere else and get what

01:12:15.439 --> 01:12:19.887
we need at a better rate, you know, we are stuck with

01:12:19.899 --> 01:12:23.578
this. So I think it's really important that you are

01:12:23.587 --> 01:12:28.587
evaluating uh the, the concerns we have and since we

01:12:28.597 --> 01:12:32.387
don't have an option, um I'm, I'm also wondering if

01:12:32.399 --> 01:12:40.038
you can consider that they be required to adjust their

01:12:40.048 --> 01:12:44.449
rate increases based on our cost of living or inflation

01:12:44.458 --> 01:12:49.867
you know, have some kind of a, a measure to, you know

01:12:49.877 --> 01:12:53.137
not just them say, you know, ok, we want to do this

01:12:53.149 --> 01:12:56.269
and we need this much money to do it, you know, uh

01:12:56.278 --> 01:13:01.887
instead of the, it co the idea coming from them that

01:13:01.899 --> 01:13:06.748
they be regulated more about how much they're allowed

01:13:06.758 --> 01:13:11.308
to increase things based on the rest of the economy

01:13:12.068 --> 01:13:17.538
because it's, doesn't seem, um, I mean, other things

01:13:17.548 --> 01:13:21.387
are based that way. So I think it would be important

01:13:21.399 --> 01:13:25.149
for this medicine to be regulated that way as well

01:13:25.159 --> 01:13:28.867
which I'm not sure you're in charge of that. But, um

01:13:29.519 --> 01:13:31.978
th I think that's all I, I had to say. I had

01:13:31.988 --> 01:13:35.949
called in on the first meeting and I wasn't sure about

01:13:35.958 --> 01:13:39.679
getting questions answered. Um I know you're basically

01:13:39.689 --> 01:13:44.308
taking comments, um, and not really trying to provide

01:13:44.318 --> 01:13:48.558
information and, and um, so I'm understanding the way

01:13:48.568 --> 01:13:52.228
to get answers is to go to the A PPS dot CU

01:13:52.238 --> 01:13:56.137
pc puc dot K is that correct? Is that where we can

01:13:56.149 --> 01:14:00.028
get answers to questions?

01:14:00.028 --> 01:14:05.078
That website is for the public to provide written public

01:14:05.087 --> 01:14:08.478
comments.

01:14:08.478 --> 01:14:11.578
But do you know how can we get questions answered?

01:14:11.587 --> 01:14:14.419
Like my, on my previous call, I was wondering about

01:14:14.429 --> 01:14:17.488
if we can be reimbursed for providing our own security

01:14:17.498 --> 01:14:19.818
lighting when we don't have street lighting that they're

01:14:19.828 --> 01:14:23.939
saying they want to be, you know, they're providing

01:14:23.949 --> 01:14:27.498
that. So that's another one of the reasons they're

01:14:27.548 --> 01:14:30.867
you know, increasing rates is because of some of these

01:14:30.877 --> 01:14:33.137
things that they provide. But if they're not providing

01:14:33.149 --> 01:14:36.818
it for me and I'm providing my own, am I going to

01:14:36.828 --> 01:14:39.159
be reimbursed? So, things like that, I'm wondering

01:14:39.169 --> 01:14:42.038
how I can get answered.

01:14:42.038 --> 01:14:45.998
This hearing is really about this specific application

01:14:46.008 --> 01:14:49.857
So if you are looking for information related to this

01:14:49.867 --> 01:14:53.028
specific information, we do have a website for that

01:14:53.498 --> 01:14:55.899
But for more general questions like that, I would reach

01:14:55.909 --> 01:14:58.649
out to Southern California Edison Company. If there

01:14:58.659 --> 01:15:02.689
are specific questions about rates that you might have

01:15:02.887 --> 01:15:06.298
my personal expense. Yeah. Ok, I appreciate it. Thank

01:15:06.308 --> 01:15:08.347
you.

01:15:08.347 --> 01:15:11.649
You're welcome. Um, operator. Next caller, please.

01:15:26.308 --> 01:15:30.708
Rita, the grange, your line is open. Yes. Hi. I'll

01:15:30.718 --> 01:15:33.828
try and make this short. I'm in Garden Grove, California

01:15:33.837 --> 01:15:39.258
and I have my bills dating back to uh

01:15:39.258 --> 01:15:46.857
J December 060 15, December 0 15. And I called on uh

01:15:48.568 --> 01:15:54.818
still from in 17, they started going up and I was told

01:15:54.828 --> 01:15:58.367
by Edison that they were starting a new billing service

01:15:58.718 --> 01:16:02.078
starting over and they weren't gonna come out and read

01:16:02.087 --> 01:16:05.458
the meters, which I always read my own meters. They

01:16:05.468 --> 01:16:11.337
were gonna read the meters from the office. So it seems

01:16:11.347 --> 01:16:15.019
like the push button, the elevator going up has gone

01:16:15.028 --> 01:16:19.669
nothing but up on the kilowatts

01:16:19.669 --> 01:16:25.649
and dating back to 0 15, it was 10 cents a kilowatt

01:16:26.377 --> 01:16:31.568
Presently, it's 32 cents a kilowatt. You even had the

01:16:31.578 --> 01:16:35.887
nerve to raise it. The end of December from 31 to 32

01:16:35.899 --> 01:16:41.828
cents a kilowatt from 10 and also the kilowatts figure

01:16:41.837 --> 01:16:46.308
in on distribution and other billings. So it seems

01:16:46.318 --> 01:16:49.769
like you can do whatever you want to. You just push

01:16:49.778 --> 01:16:53.538
the elevator button up and it's been going up three

01:16:53.548 --> 01:16:57.248
and four times compared to all the other bills that

01:16:57.258 --> 01:17:04.107
I have biggest spill I ever had. I've never used 321

01:17:04.117 --> 01:17:07.367
kilowatts. You finally, you finally pushed it over

01:17:07.377 --> 01:17:10.367
into the second tier.

01:17:10.367 --> 01:17:14.028
So that's all I have to say. There seems to be no

01:17:14.038 --> 01:17:17.498
end to the elevator going up

01:17:17.498 --> 01:17:21.788
and that's the end of my conversation.

01:17:21.788 --> 01:17:25.468
Thank you for taking the time to call in today

01:17:25.468 --> 01:17:30.208
operator. Um, next call, please.

01:17:30.208 --> 01:17:34.828
Our next color comes from Trent Adams your lines open

01:17:36.788 --> 01:17:41.738
Yep. Can you hear me? Yes, we can hear you. Ok, thank

01:17:41.748 --> 01:17:46.607
you. Uh I'd recommend that the CPUC deny this excessive

01:17:46.617 --> 01:17:51.568
price increase pro in the proposal my understanding

01:17:51.578 --> 01:17:54.228
is that the CPUC is supposed to represent the public

01:17:54.627 --> 01:17:57.798
to avoid companies like Southern California Edison

01:17:57.808 --> 01:18:01.449
from acting like a monopoly even though their customers

01:18:01.458 --> 01:18:05.758
don't have any other choice. These excessive rate increases

01:18:05.769 --> 01:18:09.867
are significantly above the average increase to the

01:18:09.877 --> 01:18:13.127
cost of labor that are in the area that they serve

01:18:13.137 --> 01:18:17.087
Most ratepayers would be lucky to see a, a three or

01:18:17.097 --> 01:18:20.337
4% increase per year in their income to offset these

01:18:20.347 --> 01:18:25.068
rate increases. Uh The simple income versus utilities

01:18:25.078 --> 01:18:28.189
math is obviously not sustainable and that's why there

01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:32.548
is a public um uproar for this, ah these rates, however

01:18:32.558 --> 01:18:35.328
they increase costs significantly beyond what the public

01:18:35.337 --> 01:18:38.347
can afford. And I'm urging the CPUC to consider that

01:18:38.357 --> 01:18:41.169
reality, the cost of a kilowatt hour of electricity

01:18:41.179 --> 01:18:44.468
is disproportionately higher than other parts of the

01:18:44.478 --> 01:18:47.528
country. Other parts of the country can't comprehend

01:18:47.538 --> 01:18:50.949
paying 64 cents a kilowatt hour like Southern California

01:18:50.958 --> 01:18:53.669
Edison is charging, um Southern California Edison needs

01:18:53.679 --> 01:18:56.607
to find ways to decrease their rates to decrease their

01:18:56.617 --> 01:18:59.877
costs and to serve the public. The cost of living in

01:18:59.887 --> 01:19:02.587
California is prohibitively high. And when Southern

01:19:02.597 --> 01:19:06.218
California Edison continues this for an excessive rates

01:19:06.228 --> 01:19:09.847
increases, then if the CPUC can't stop them, it leaves

01:19:09.857 --> 01:19:12.107
moving out of the state as the only financial option

01:19:12.117 --> 01:19:15.328
for many. So I think these proposed increases are just

01:19:15.337 --> 01:19:17.808
proof that some California Edison is out of control

01:19:17.919 --> 01:19:23.637
and that this needs to be denied.

01:19:23.637 --> 01:19:28.708
Thank you. Thank you, Mr Adams operator. Next call

01:19:30.179 --> 01:19:34.788
and your honor. I'm showing no further comment at this

01:19:34.798 --> 01:19:38.068
time.

01:19:38.068 --> 01:19:41.409
Ok. Again, if you would like to provide public comment

01:19:41.419 --> 01:19:46.808
today, please press star one on your phone and the

01:19:46.818 --> 01:19:50.738
operator will place you in the queue.

01:19:50.738 --> 01:19:53.117
We'll just wait a minute or two in case there's anyone

01:19:53.127 --> 01:20:11.347
else that would like to provide comments.

01:20:11.347 --> 01:20:17.137
We do have a question come in from April Jedi. Your

01:20:17.149 --> 01:20:20.097
line is open.

01:20:20.097 --> 01:20:24.919
Hi, my name is April Brunetti Apr Ilb um Brunetti Br

01:20:24.929 --> 01:20:28.998
un E TT I and I think um a couple of comments

01:20:29.008 --> 01:20:31.578
I feel that some of the things that they're trying

01:20:31.587 --> 01:20:33.958
to do and improve like the infrastructure everybody

01:20:33.968 --> 01:20:39.568
wants should have been planned ahead of time. Um, you

01:20:39.578 --> 01:20:42.038
know, planning for the future. And I think the rate

01:20:42.048 --> 01:20:45.439
increases that they're trying to push off on us is

01:20:45.449 --> 01:20:48.718
because the poor handling of the electrical lines causing

01:20:48.728 --> 01:20:52.117
the fires that we now have to pay for when it was

01:20:52.127 --> 01:20:54.568
really their responsibility. But I think that they're

01:20:54.578 --> 01:20:58.019
trying to pass that cost off on us. And I feel like

01:20:58.028 --> 01:21:01.439
they need to look in house to see how they can decrease

01:21:01.449 --> 01:21:04.798
their costs rather than push it off to us. And then

01:21:04.808 --> 01:21:09.478
also some of those because of the fires because of

01:21:09.488 --> 01:21:12.558
the electrical uh lines going down and causing the

01:21:12.568 --> 01:21:17.028
fires have caused um, a lot of insurance companies

01:21:17.038 --> 01:21:20.409
to pull out of California and making it very difficult

01:21:20.419 --> 01:21:24.028
for homeowners to get home insurance. And I've had

01:21:24.038 --> 01:21:28.269
that happen to me and I don't have any, uh, claims

01:21:28.278 --> 01:21:31.117
on my home. And then the third comment I wanna make

01:21:31.127 --> 01:21:33.887
is my brother lives in Phoenix, Arizona. And their

01:21:33.899 --> 01:21:36.347
rates are much lower and they have a much higher demand

01:21:36.357 --> 01:21:39.429
during the summer than California does. And that's

01:21:39.738 --> 01:21:46.498
pretty much my comments. Thank you, Miss Pernetti

01:21:46.498 --> 01:21:49.887
operator. Are there any other callers in the queue

01:21:49.899 --> 01:21:55.269
at this time? Uh Yes, ma'am. Uh The next call is Adela

01:21:55.278 --> 01:21:58.988
Sanchez. Your lines open.

01:21:58.988 --> 01:22:02.028
Hi, my name is Adela Sanchez. I live in North County

01:22:02.038 --> 01:22:05.558
Oceanside. Um Thank you for taking this call and for

01:22:05.669 --> 01:22:10.097
um, Jim Desmond holding this today. I also um, disagree

01:22:10.107 --> 01:22:15.149
with the race of cost through. I've also heard some

01:22:16.048 --> 01:22:20.058
talk about us having another electrical company and

01:22:20.068 --> 01:22:22.548
I believe that we shouldn't be looking at one or the

01:22:22.558 --> 01:22:25.328
other that we should look at having both so that we

01:22:25.337 --> 01:22:28.689
have options, especially if SCG and E has said that

01:22:28.699 --> 01:22:32.748
they cannot um support the needs of San Diego County

01:22:32.758 --> 01:22:35.008
Um, that tells me that we need somebody else in here

01:22:35.019 --> 01:22:38.328
and competition is always good for the consumer. So

01:22:38.337 --> 01:22:40.949
I hope that we can look at something that will be more

01:22:40.958 --> 01:22:44.679
beneficial to us and ways that we can support um the

01:22:44.689 --> 01:22:47.788
electrical needs without having us having to incur

01:22:47.798 --> 01:22:50.637
those costs of a company that's unable to meet our

01:22:50.689 --> 01:22:54.718
needs. Thank you.

01:22:54.718 --> 01:23:00.649
Thank you. MS Sanchez, uh, operator. Next caller,

01:23:00.649 --> 01:23:03.538
our next caller comes from, I believe it's Sandoval

01:23:03.548 --> 01:23:14.337
Diaz. Mr Diaz. Your lines open.

01:23:14.337 --> 01:23:21.218
It is me Salvador.

01:23:21.218 --> 01:23:27.899
Hello? Yes. Hello. Yes, it's for Salvador. Diaz. Yes

01:23:28.568 --> 01:23:34.318
Ok. Ok. Um, good afternoon. Um, everyone and, um, commissioner

01:23:34.328 --> 01:23:38.958
thank you for, let me have the chance to speak. My

01:23:38.968 --> 01:23:49.429
name is Salvador Diaz. Salvador Salb AD or Di S is

01:23:49.439 --> 01:23:53.778
Dia Z.

01:23:53.778 --> 01:24:00.548
I'm a resident from Walen Park, California and I speak

01:24:00.558 --> 01:24:08.008
up against uh the higher bills. Why is this gonna be

01:24:08.019 --> 01:24:14.118
this increase? They gonna affect a lot of people, especially

01:24:14.127 --> 01:24:18.269
the seniors, the, the person, they are sick and they

01:24:18.279 --> 01:24:22.977
need the electricity for the equipment to survive.

01:24:24.176 --> 01:24:28.196
And also they're going to affect their families and

01:24:28.207 --> 01:24:35.738
residents with a very low uh uh income.

01:24:35.738 --> 01:24:42.098
So this is unfair, they increase the, the southern

01:24:42.109 --> 01:24:49.658
California and were for increase 17% a rate case application

01:24:50.388 --> 01:24:54.839
and that's going to affect everybody because if they

01:24:54.848 --> 01:24:57.917
gonna raise

01:24:57.917 --> 01:25:02.187
the cost of the month of producing the electricity

01:25:02.247 --> 01:25:11.069
about $26 per month annually is like that. $312. Yes

01:25:11.078 --> 01:25:17.397
Imagine when we have to change the, the cars or the

01:25:17.408 --> 01:25:22.258
bakers, they use gasoline for electricity. How much

01:25:22.269 --> 01:25:27.437
we're going to pay in five or six or 10 years? They

01:25:27.448 --> 01:25:33.417
don't gonna be uh uh affordable for nobody.

01:25:33.417 --> 01:25:39.288
Southern California Edison, they do a lot of billions

01:25:39.299 --> 01:25:44.477
a year. It should be uh take in consideration they

01:25:44.488 --> 01:25:49.328
cannot uh take advantage about the community. They

01:25:49.339 --> 01:25:53.997
have to use a different kind of a project. They reduce

01:25:54.167 --> 01:25:58.808
the prices for the uh directors. They, they make millions

01:25:58.819 --> 01:26:03.247
and millions and they have to pay empathy to the people

01:26:03.258 --> 01:26:10.359
They only, they make like a $15 an hour, so I'm against

01:26:10.368 --> 01:26:15.618
the high bills. Thank you. Thank you, Mr Diaz. Operator

01:26:15.629 --> 01:26:18.258
Next caller, please.

01:26:18.258 --> 01:26:22.529
Our next caller is comes from, I believe it's the grain

01:26:22.558 --> 01:26:26.687
heart grows your lines open.

01:26:26.687 --> 01:26:30.578
Yeah, I made it short on the rate increases before

01:26:30.647 --> 01:26:34.908
but I forgot to add that the uh the elevator going

01:26:34.917 --> 01:26:39.808
up with the rate since uh December 0 15. Where you

01:26:39.819 --> 01:26:43.029
bill from the office, you press any button you want

01:26:43.549 --> 01:26:47.569
the, it's like the elevator going up at the puc too

01:26:47.738 --> 01:26:51.928
California just ok, the puc, oks anything they want

01:26:54.299 --> 01:26:58.008
they say jump and they say how, how high and this California

01:26:58.019 --> 01:27:02.667
Edison, they're just, they're just a a all linked in

01:27:02.678 --> 01:27:06.178
to Edison International if you read the fine print

01:27:06.247 --> 01:27:09.187
which is all over the country, but California, they

01:27:09.198 --> 01:27:12.408
really stick it too and that's the end of my comment

01:27:12.417 --> 01:27:16.129
for sure. Thank you.

01:27:16.129 --> 01:27:20.319
Thank you operator. Next caller,

01:27:20.319 --> 01:27:23.497
your honor. I'm showing no more no further comments

01:27:23.508 --> 01:27:28.288
on the telephone line at this time.

01:27:28.288 --> 01:27:31.178
Ok, thank you very much. Um And that concludes all

01:27:31.187 --> 01:27:34.328
the speakers who have signed up to speak. Um I want

01:27:34.339 --> 01:27:38.428
to thank our it staff, court reporter, public advisor's

01:27:38.437 --> 01:27:41.569
office and Commissioner Douglas for their participation

01:27:41.578 --> 01:27:44.779
and support today. Um I especially want to thank Saad

01:27:44.788 --> 01:27:48.448
Mohammed for filling in at Long Beach on very short

01:27:48.457 --> 01:27:52.069
notice. Uh Most of all I want to thank our public speakers

01:27:52.078 --> 01:27:54.937
for your input and comments and for your patience in

01:27:54.948 --> 01:27:57.917
waiting in the queue to provide your comments. Thank

01:27:57.928 --> 01:28:00.738
you. Also to everyone who took the time to listen in

01:28:00.747 --> 01:28:05.008
on the phone or watch online. If any of you would like

01:28:05.019 --> 01:28:08.279
to provide additional input or comments after this

01:28:08.288 --> 01:28:11.448
hearing, you may submit written comments on the docket

01:28:11.457 --> 01:28:14.227
card for this proceeding, which can be found on the

01:28:14.238 --> 01:28:28.908
commission's website at A pps.cpu.ca.gov/c/a 2305010

01:28:29.569 --> 01:28:32.468
Judge Seiber. And I do read all the comments that are

01:28:32.477 --> 01:28:35.928
submitted and we do summarize those in the final decision

01:28:35.937 --> 01:28:39.638
that is going to be issued in this proceeding. If you

01:28:39.647 --> 01:28:42.158
need assistance with providing additional comments

01:28:42.167 --> 01:28:45.238
please contact the commission's public advisor's office

01:28:46.078 --> 01:28:49.457
Thank you, everyone that concludes this evening's public

01:28:49.468 --> 01:28:52.227
participation hearing. We will be off the record.