WEBVTT 00:00:03.119 --> 00:00:05.820 The feed for this streaming event brought commission 00:00:05.828 --> 00:00:08.630 public participation hearing on this day, Tuesday, 00:00:08.640 --> 00:00:15.560 March 12th, 2024. Judge Melvin, you may begin. 00:00:15.560 --> 00:00:19.440 We will now be on the record. The co the commission 00:00:19.449 --> 00:00:24.780 will come to order. Good evening. This is the time 00:00:24.789 --> 00:00:28.530 and place for the public participation hearing pertaining 00:00:28.539 --> 00:00:37.700 to application. 23 10 008, the application of the deco 00:00:37.728 --> 00:00:43.759 telephone company to modify intrastate revenue requirement 00:00:44.048 --> 00:00:50.009 and rate design and adjust selected rates. I am Marjorie 00:00:50.020 --> 00:00:53.649 Melvin, the assigned commissioner for this proceeding 00:00:55.098 --> 00:00:59.679 We are joined by Commissioner John Reynolds advisor 00:00:59.689 --> 00:01:04.329 Carolyn Chen. 00:01:04.329 --> 00:01:08.250 To those listening that wish to speak. Please call 00:01:08.260 --> 00:01:16.000 the number on your screen which for English is 1888 00:01:17.370 --> 00:01:27.120 790 3588 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:34.569 and input passcode 871 00:01:34.569 --> 00:01:39.209 073 £0. 00:01:39.209 --> 00:01:44.379 And before I proceed, I would like to confirm that 00:01:44.388 --> 00:01:47.500 the number that I've given you is indeed the correct 00:01:47.510 --> 00:01:49.760 number. 00:01:49.760 --> 00:01:54.540 And so I'm just going to wait a moment until that's 00:01:54.549 --> 00:02:01.500 confirmed in case people have not been able to, to 00:02:01.859 --> 00:02:07.338 dial in. And so I'm going to ask if 00:02:07.338 --> 00:02:11.048 staff can confirm the number 00:02:11.048 --> 00:02:44.429 before we continue 00:02:44.429 --> 00:02:48.849 And what I'd like to know is the, I'd like to confirm 00:02:48.860 --> 00:02:52.788 the correct telephone number. Um I think the number 00:02:52.800 --> 00:02:56.229 on the screen is different from the number I have in 00:02:56.240 --> 00:03:00.909 my script. And so thank you very much. So the number 00:03:00.919 --> 00:03:12.319 you may call to provide a comment is 808 571917 and 00:03:12.330 --> 00:03:25.088 input passcode 871 073 £0. And for Spanish the, the 00:03:25.139 --> 00:03:36.550 telephone number is one 888469 1662. And I'm gonna 00:03:36.558 --> 00:03:43.159 take a moment to confirm that before I continue 00:03:43.159 --> 00:03:47.058 and I just received confirmation that is it is actually 00:03:47.069 --> 00:04:08.379 1 808 571917, an input passcode 912394 £6 00:04:08.379 --> 00:04:12.038 and then press star one on your phone to be placed 00:04:12.050 --> 00:04:16.678 in line after pressing star one, you will be prompted 00:04:16.689 --> 00:04:22.629 for your name. 00:04:22.629 --> 00:04:27.588 Please also add, if you are an elected official, you 00:04:27.600 --> 00:04:31.319 may decide that any time before we end the form to 00:04:31.329 --> 00:04:39.119 speak simply by pressing star one. 00:04:39.119 --> 00:04:43.459 The purpose of this easing hearing is to hear directly 00:04:43.470 --> 00:04:48.778 from the public about due co's general rate case application 00:04:48.790 --> 00:04:53.220 seeking modifications to its revenue requirement and 00:04:53.230 --> 00:04:57.939 rate design. If you have a specific question regarding 00:04:57.949 --> 00:05:03.269 your bill or service, we have due course customer assurance 00:05:03.278 --> 00:05:08.699 supervisor, Melissa Lopez available on a separate line 00:05:08.798 --> 00:05:14.278 throughout the hearing and for an hour after 00:05:14.278 --> 00:05:29.540 the number to reach Melissa Lopez is 888 539 5234 or 00:05:29.949 --> 00:05:41.738 5595342213 and is also displayed on the video slide 00:05:43.459 --> 00:05:46.488 The Public Utilities Commission has five commissioners 00:05:46.730 --> 00:05:50.238 who are appointed by the governor and confirmed by 00:05:50.250 --> 00:05:55.428 the State Senate including Commissioner Reynolds. My 00:05:55.439 --> 00:05:59.548 responsibility is to manage the day to day activities 00:05:59.559 --> 00:06:03.699 of the case and to help Commissioner Reynolds evaluate 00:06:03.709 --> 00:06:06.778 all of the evidence in the proceedings including your 00:06:06.790 --> 00:06:09.000 input. 00:06:09.000 --> 00:06:13.389 My job as the administrative law judge is to evaluate 00:06:13.399 --> 00:06:16.350 the evidence in the proceeding and to write a proposed 00:06:16.358 --> 00:06:22.500 decision based on that evidence, the five commissioners 00:06:22.619 --> 00:06:26.100 are ultimately the ones who will decide and vote on 00:06:26.108 --> 00:06:30.500 whether to grant due course general rate case application 00:06:32.160 --> 00:06:35.858 Each piece of information on which we base, our decision 00:06:35.869 --> 00:06:40.838 is listed and available for your review on a commission 00:06:40.850 --> 00:06:44.928 web page. We call the docket card. 00:06:44.928 --> 00:06:48.959 In fact, your comments this evening will also be listed 00:06:49.079 --> 00:06:52.959 and published on the docket card because our court 00:06:52.970 --> 00:06:56.720 reporters are transcribing this evening's hearing, 00:06:57.220 --> 00:07:01.750 taking down everything that is said. 00:07:01.750 --> 00:07:06.250 If an expedited transcript is ordered, it will be available 00:07:06.259 --> 00:07:10.850 five business days from the date of the hearing, 00:07:10.850 --> 00:07:14.959 non expedited transcripts will be available eight weeks 00:07:14.970 --> 00:07:19.079 from the date of the hearing. 00:07:19.079 --> 00:07:23.100 I thank you for spending your time with us this evening 00:07:23.108 --> 00:07:26.048 to share your thoughts on Decor's General rate case 00:07:26.059 --> 00:07:32.319 application or perhaps just to listen the commissioner 00:07:32.329 --> 00:07:36.220 and I will be paying close attention to what you say 00:07:38.100 --> 00:07:43.199 this evening is not your only opportunity or your thoughts 00:07:43.709 --> 00:07:56.129 on D Cor's general rate case application 00:07:56.129 --> 00:08:08.369 A G now that you appear to be on mute, 00:08:08.369 --> 00:08:22.949 I'm sorry, judge, I can't hear you at all. 00:08:22.949 --> 00:08:26.939 This is the operator. The line has disconnected 00:08:26.939 --> 00:10:52.678 one moment. 00:10:52.678 --> 00:10:55.279 I will turn the conference back to judge Melvin. Thank 00:10:55.288 --> 00:11:00.200 you. Thank you. We had a slight technical difficulty 00:11:00.210 --> 00:11:04.029 there. So thank you for bear for staying with us as 00:11:04.038 --> 00:11:08.739 we resolved it. And we're back on the record and I 00:11:08.750 --> 00:11:14.389 left off at sharing with you how to access the docket 00:11:14.399 --> 00:11:19.109 card and just wanna confirm that the panelists can 00:11:19.119 --> 00:11:22.710 hear me. So if you just raise your hand to acknowledge 00:11:22.719 --> 00:11:26.908 that you can hear me. Thank you. 00:11:26.908 --> 00:11:30.450 This evening is not your only opportunity to share 00:11:30.460 --> 00:11:33.690 thoughts on Decor's general rate case application. 00:11:33.750 --> 00:11:37.330 We accept written comments, written public comments 00:11:37.340 --> 00:11:42.158 through a form on our website, the public comment section 00:11:42.168 --> 00:11:47.308 of the docket card to access the docket card, go to 00:11:47.320 --> 00:11:50.359 the commission's website, scroll down to the bottom 00:11:50.369 --> 00:11:55.538 of the page, then click on proceedings and rule making 00:11:55.729 --> 00:12:06.729 then click on docket card and then type a 23 10 008 00:12:07.090 --> 00:12:12.149 and click search when you land on the preceding page 00:12:12.158 --> 00:12:17.460 then click on the add public comment button. The basic 00:12:17.469 --> 00:12:20.200 purpose of this evening's hearing is to hear directly 00:12:20.210 --> 00:12:23.460 from Decor customers and members of the public about 00:12:23.469 --> 00:12:27.330 this application again. We're very appreciative that 00:12:27.340 --> 00:12:32.048 you've joined us this evening. And now we'll hear from 00:12:32.058 --> 00:12:37.090 Carolyn Chin, advisor to Commissioner Reynolds. 00:12:37.090 --> 00:12:40.119 Thank you, Judge Melvin. Welcome everyone. My name 00:12:40.129 --> 00:12:43.428 is Carolyn Chen. I'm an advisor to Commissioner John 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:47.178 Reynolds and I'm the lead advisor for reviewing Decor's 00:12:47.190 --> 00:12:50.619 general rate case application on behalf of the commissioner 00:12:50.629 --> 00:12:53.308 I want to acknowledge and thank the community members 00:12:53.320 --> 00:12:56.038 and members of the public who are here today to share 00:12:56.048 --> 00:12:59.048 their thoughts and concerns about Duo's request. The 00:12:59.058 --> 00:13:01.519 commissioner appreciates hearing from you before any 00:13:01.529 --> 00:13:04.440 decision on this application is made. Thank you back 00:13:04.450 --> 00:13:06.899 to you, Judge Melvin. 00:13:06.899 --> 00:13:11.940 Thank you, Carolyn Chen Andy Lau of the communications 00:13:11.950 --> 00:13:14.779 division. Would you like to introduce yourself and 00:13:14.788 --> 00:13:18.279 explain a bit about the communication division's role 00:13:18.288 --> 00:13:21.759 in this proceeding? 00:13:21.759 --> 00:13:25.119 Yes. Thank you, Judge Melvin. Hello everyone. Good 00:13:25.129 --> 00:13:28.178 evening. I'm Amy Lau representing the communications 00:13:28.190 --> 00:13:31.558 division in this proceeding. The role of my team and 00:13:31.570 --> 00:13:35.308 I are to provide technical quality advice to the judge 00:13:35.320 --> 00:13:39.649 and to the commissioner. Thank you judge. 00:13:39.649 --> 00:13:44.750 Thank you, Amy. Now we'll have Patrick Roswald for 00:13:45.119 --> 00:13:48.389 Decor. Decor will now have five minutes to present 00:13:48.399 --> 00:13:52.279 a summary of its position on its general rate case 00:13:52.288 --> 00:13:57.229 application. Mr Duco. You may proceed 00:13:57.229 --> 00:14:00.969 your honor if I may. Um the the company is contacting 00:14:00.979 --> 00:14:04.609 me um and, and saying that some folks can't get in 00:14:04.629 --> 00:14:07.340 and I think if, if we could say the number and the 00:14:07.349 --> 00:14:10.808 pass code again, um some of the folks that are actually 00:14:10.820 --> 00:14:13.808 on the ground in Decor might be able to participate 00:14:14.178 --> 00:14:17.928 Um I think you said it but people didn't quite get 00:14:17.940 --> 00:14:21.779 it. Um But is there, is it possible to just say again 00:14:21.788 --> 00:14:27.658 what the comment number is? Absolutely. So, uh the 00:14:27.668 --> 00:14:43.808 number for you to call is 1 800 857 1917 for English 00:14:43.820 --> 00:14:56.019 and enter 871073 £0 and then press star one for Spanish 00:14:57.418 --> 00:15:06.619 dial 808 571917 00:15:06.619 --> 00:15:22.298 and then press 912394 £6 and then press star one. 00:15:22.298 --> 00:15:25.269 Thank you your honor. If I could have just maybe 30 00:15:25.279 --> 00:15:28.808 seconds to see if the folks in Decor got that and, 00:15:28.820 --> 00:15:31.808 and are able to get on. Um, that would, that would 00:15:31.820 --> 00:15:34.000 be helpful. I, I think there are some folks in the 00:15:34.009 --> 00:15:38.019 room there. You may recall that um the company set 00:15:38.029 --> 00:15:41.379 up a room for people to meet and potentially get on 00:15:41.859 --> 00:15:45.058 Um And I'm, I'm getting a message from uh Mr Botha 00:15:45.320 --> 00:15:48.440 from, from Decor that, that it actually isn't working 00:15:48.820 --> 00:15:51.450 that, that the call in that you just stated, which 00:15:51.460 --> 00:15:54.570 is the same one on my screen right now actually isn't 00:15:54.580 --> 00:15:56.460 letting people in. So I'm not, I'm not sure what the 00:15:56.469 --> 00:15:59.788 issue is. 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And um it's extremely important that the 00:23:47.199 --> 00:23:50.689 public be able to participate and provide comment. 00:23:51.068 --> 00:23:56.180 And for that reason, I want to uh again, provide the 00:23:56.189 --> 00:24:01.709 numbers for the public and customers to call to uh 00:24:01.750 --> 00:24:06.500 to speak. And so we'll do that before we continue on 00:24:06.828 --> 00:24:10.189 So for those wish, wishing to speak, please call the 00:24:10.199 --> 00:24:15.759 number on your screen for Engl English. That number 00:24:15.769 --> 00:24:32.029 is 18887903588, enter 871073 £0 and then press star 00:24:32.039 --> 00:24:34.489 one 00:24:34.489 --> 00:24:47.318 for Spanish dial 18884691662 00:24:47.318 --> 00:25:00.479 912394 £6 and then press star once 00:25:00.479 --> 00:25:08.469 and now we will continue where we left off. And I asked 00:25:08.699 --> 00:25:15.160 Mr Oswald to provide a five minute presentation on 00:25:15.170 --> 00:25:19.469 due court's position on its general rate case application 00:25:20.500 --> 00:25:24.219 Mr Rosal. You may proceed. Thank you your honor. And 00:25:24.229 --> 00:25:27.019 and we did have some slides. I don't know if. Oh, and 00:25:27.029 --> 00:25:30.769 there they are. Thank you. All right. So I'll be brief 00:25:30.779 --> 00:25:34.039 Um So first of all, thanks to the commission and to 00:25:34.049 --> 00:25:36.289 the public Advisor's office for setting this up. It's 00:25:36.299 --> 00:25:38.180 really important for us. To hear from the public on 00:25:38.189 --> 00:25:41.059 this important proceeding. And I know a lot went into 00:25:41.068 --> 00:25:43.400 this event and I appreciate everybody working through 00:25:43.410 --> 00:25:46.828 the technical issues that we just resolved. So, um 00:25:47.250 --> 00:25:50.670 our purpose here is to hear from the public. Um but 00:25:50.680 --> 00:25:53.279 I'll say a few words about kind of who we are and 00:25:53.289 --> 00:25:56.709 and what the proceeding is about. Um So, first of all 00:25:56.719 --> 00:25:59.189 I'm Patrick Ross and Decor's representative in the 00:25:59.199 --> 00:26:02.009 formal proceeding. Uh My role is to help the company 00:26:02.019 --> 00:26:05.000 navigate through that and to kind of set the tone and 00:26:05.009 --> 00:26:08.430 and uh provide the overview of, of uh the company's 00:26:08.439 --> 00:26:11.979 application we also have on the line as I think that 00:26:11.989 --> 00:26:14.979 the judge mentioned Melissa Lopez, who's the customer 00:26:14.989 --> 00:26:18.779 assurance supervisor, if somebody has a concern of 00:26:18.789 --> 00:26:21.160 the individual nature that, you know, better, better 00:26:21.170 --> 00:26:24.930 kind of addressed individually, um she's available 00:26:24.939 --> 00:26:27.979 and, and will be available to resolve those concerns 00:26:28.189 --> 00:26:30.930 And there was a separate telephone number I believe 00:26:30.939 --> 00:26:34.719 posted with the slides that the judge presented Mr 00:26:34.729 --> 00:26:37.650 Boa, the company's president is also here. Should there 00:26:37.660 --> 00:26:40.630 be any questions that you know, might be in his domain 00:26:40.640 --> 00:26:43.289 He's available? Certainly also. And just so everyone's 00:26:43.299 --> 00:26:47.299 aware, um there was discussion um as we set up this 00:26:47.309 --> 00:26:51.088 event that Decor might uh be able to set up a physical 00:26:51.098 --> 00:26:54.269 space, at least in the Decor Exchange where people 00:26:54.279 --> 00:26:56.890 could come and listen to this and potentially call 00:26:56.900 --> 00:27:00.029 in. So, um the company has done that. There's a room 00:27:00.039 --> 00:27:03.818 full of people as we speak in Decor, um, who I believe 00:27:03.828 --> 00:27:07.130 are listening to this and there's some sort of phone 00:27:07.140 --> 00:27:10.789 there set up so that people there can connect. So hopefully 00:27:10.799 --> 00:27:13.019 when the time comes, the people who have something 00:27:13.029 --> 00:27:15.809 to say will be able to do that. Um, and I believe 00:27:15.818 --> 00:27:18.489 you know, there's a Spanish translator as well available 00:27:18.500 --> 00:27:22.420 for those who need it. So I guess turning to the, the 00:27:22.430 --> 00:27:25.219 substance here, um I'll, I'll say a few words about 00:27:25.229 --> 00:27:27.838 what this case is about uh can be a little complex 00:27:27.848 --> 00:27:29.709 So if you could hit the next slide, that would probably 00:27:29.719 --> 00:27:32.449 be good. 00:27:32.449 --> 00:27:36.519 Perfect. So Dar filed what's called a rate case. Um 00:27:36.529 --> 00:27:39.660 and that sounds complicated but it's really about some 00:27:39.670 --> 00:27:43.509 fundamental things. Number one, it's, it's about keeping 00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:46.539 voice rates affordable. The company wants to keep those 00:27:46.549 --> 00:27:50.650 rates as low as it can. Um It's also about providing 00:27:50.660 --> 00:27:53.029 the support that's necessary for Duco to keep making 00:27:53.039 --> 00:27:56.479 the investments that it is making today, to modernize 00:27:56.489 --> 00:27:59.650 the system, to keep and keep and maintain and repair 00:27:59.660 --> 00:28:02.759 the system and to set up the kinds of services and 00:28:02.769 --> 00:28:05.390 access to broadband that the, that the customers really 00:28:05.400 --> 00:28:10.989 need. Um It's also about helping the area get access 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:15.818 to support from state funds. And so the proposal that 00:28:15.828 --> 00:28:21.289 DUR has made would, would result in $2.1 million in 00:28:21.299 --> 00:28:24.209 what's called the California high cost one a being 00:28:24.219 --> 00:28:27.009 devoted to this rural area. And so we believe that's 00:28:27.019 --> 00:28:30.578 just really important and that the the purpose of the 00:28:30.588 --> 00:28:33.739 fund is to help keep rates affordable and to allow 00:28:33.750 --> 00:28:36.479 the company to continue making these kinds of investments 00:28:36.799 --> 00:28:40.140 And so allocating that money is just critical. And 00:28:40.368 --> 00:28:44.098 in order to get access to that funding, uh Decor has 00:28:44.108 --> 00:28:47.380 to file these kinds of proceedings every five years 00:28:47.779 --> 00:28:52.769 And so it's done so and um the, the, the real issue 00:28:52.779 --> 00:28:56.279 here is trying to preserve the flow of that funding 00:28:56.289 --> 00:29:00.529 due to the area. And just for context that fund, the 00:29:00.539 --> 00:29:04.009 California high cost fund is funded by a surcharge 00:29:04.019 --> 00:29:07.598 that is applied to bills statewide. It's about an eight 00:29:07.608 --> 00:29:11.630 cents a month uh surcharge. So that's the contribution 00:29:11.640 --> 00:29:14.259 that people statewide make to ensure that areas like 00:29:14.269 --> 00:29:18.430 this can have affordable service. So I have another 00:29:18.439 --> 00:29:22.108 slide that I wanted to touch on that I think is we're 00:29:22.118 --> 00:29:24.828 looking right now at the Spanish translation of my 00:29:24.838 --> 00:29:26.759 first slide, if we could move to the second slide, 00:29:26.769 --> 00:29:31.630 that would be great. 00:29:31.630 --> 00:29:33.930 So I wanted to be clear about something, you know, 00:29:33.939 --> 00:29:35.789 and, and this was sort of at the end of the last 00:29:35.799 --> 00:29:38.660 slide as well. Due court does not propose to raise 00:29:38.670 --> 00:29:41.588 rates and we know that our opponents in the case, which 00:29:41.598 --> 00:29:43.920 is a division of the commission called Co Advocates 00:29:43.930 --> 00:29:46.519 You'll hear from them in a moment. They are proposing 00:29:46.529 --> 00:29:48.630 to raise rates. They're proposing to raise rates on 00:29:48.640 --> 00:29:55.170 voice service by about 16% from $25 to $29.08. And 00:29:55.180 --> 00:29:57.588 so we, we just vehemently oppose that. And instead 00:29:57.598 --> 00:30:00.930 of that, we propose that, that some cuts and calling 00:30:00.939 --> 00:30:04.209 features like call waiting, caller id, voicemail, things 00:30:04.219 --> 00:30:07.789 like that be included in the basic rate. Rather than 00:30:07.799 --> 00:30:10.019 trying to raise the rate. We want to give people more 00:30:10.029 --> 00:30:13.828 for their money instead of raising the rate that exists 00:30:13.838 --> 00:30:15.838 today. And of course, those numbers don't include the 00:30:15.848 --> 00:30:19.680 surcharges and taxes that apply. Um The other point 00:30:19.689 --> 00:30:22.568 I wanted to make though is just an important point 00:30:22.578 --> 00:30:25.269 about what this case is about. This is not about broadband 00:30:25.279 --> 00:30:27.959 pricing. That is not something that's at issue here 00:30:27.969 --> 00:30:30.029 that there's going to be some confusion. I think from 00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:32.848 our opponents slides about that point. And one thing 00:30:32.858 --> 00:30:37.049 we wanted to say here that's really important is broadband 00:30:37.059 --> 00:30:39.689 affordability is critical and it's important to this 00:30:39.699 --> 00:30:42.449 company. And we think there is a solution to that, 00:30:42.459 --> 00:30:44.809 which is, there's something called the Lifeline program 00:30:45.348 --> 00:30:48.118 The lifeline program should be extended to broadband 00:30:48.130 --> 00:30:50.689 We've been advocating for that in a different proceeding 00:30:50.868 --> 00:30:53.509 The commission has not agreed that it will extend that 00:30:53.519 --> 00:30:55.818 to broadband and it should, we've been arguing for 00:30:55.828 --> 00:30:58.789 this for about three or four years. And so that's the 00:30:58.799 --> 00:31:01.469 solution to that issue. If the commission can focus 00:31:01.479 --> 00:31:05.719 on allocating that support just as it does today for 00:31:05.729 --> 00:31:09.180 voice service. There's $19 available that could help 00:31:09.189 --> 00:31:12.578 make broadband more affordable. The company is doing 00:31:12.588 --> 00:31:15.828 the best it can, you know, with on its broadband affiliate 00:31:15.838 --> 00:31:18.779 to keep those things affordable. But there is additional 00:31:18.789 --> 00:31:21.189 funding available. If the commission will just open 00:31:21.199 --> 00:31:23.809 that up, that's a different topic. But it's something 00:31:23.818 --> 00:31:27.108 that's very important. So in the interest of time I 00:31:27.118 --> 00:31:29.459 will stop there, we're certainly available to answer 00:31:29.469 --> 00:31:32.309 questions about this. But I think the bottom line here 00:31:32.318 --> 00:31:35.059 is, this is about flowing money that's critical to 00:31:35.068 --> 00:31:38.219 this area to help support these facilities and to help 00:31:38.229 --> 00:31:40.709 support this small company while keeping things affordable 00:31:41.338 --> 00:31:43.358 and I'll stop there. We, we look forward to hearing 00:31:43.368 --> 00:31:46.959 from the public. 00:31:46.959 --> 00:31:51.328 Thank you, Mister Oswald. We'll now turn to Christos 00:31:51.930 --> 00:31:56.309 Chavez Jones with C Advocates. The Public Advocate's 00:31:56.318 --> 00:32:00.380 Office of the Commission, also known as Cow Advocates 00:32:00.390 --> 00:32:04.380 will now have five minutes to present its summary on 00:32:04.390 --> 00:32:09.900 D Cor's general rate case application. MS Chavez Jones 00:32:09.910 --> 00:32:14.299 You may proceed. 00:32:14.299 --> 00:32:19.239 Thank you, judge. Ok. My slides are up great. Um Good 00:32:19.250 --> 00:32:22.338 evening everyone. My name is Crystal Chavez Jones. 00:32:22.348 --> 00:32:24.858 I'm an analyst at the Public Advocates Office at the 00:32:24.868 --> 00:32:28.809 commission also known as Cal Advocates. Next slide 00:32:34.559 --> 00:32:37.858 CAL Advocates is an independent consumer advocacy group 00:32:37.868 --> 00:32:41.279 within the commission. We advocate, we advocate on 00:32:41.289 --> 00:32:44.509 behalf of the California ratepayers statewide. Our 00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:47.828 statutory mission is to ensure the lowest possible 00:32:47.838 --> 00:32:50.618 rates of service consistent with safe and reliable 00:32:50.630 --> 00:32:54.430 service and the state's environmental goals. We also 00:32:54.439 --> 00:32:57.380 strive to ensure that all communities have access to 00:32:57.390 --> 00:33:02.650 safe and reliable gas, electric, water and communication 00:33:02.660 --> 00:33:11.309 services including broadband services. Next slide 00:33:11.309 --> 00:33:17.368 flight number three, 00:33:17.368 --> 00:33:20.068 the commission provides subsidies to Decor telephone 00:33:20.078 --> 00:33:23.299 companies through the California high cost fund a program 00:33:23.318 --> 00:33:26.670 or the A fund. These subsidies are paid for by the 00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:29.709 California ratepayer through their phone bill. The 00:33:29.719 --> 00:33:32.420 commission has a duty to ensure these subsidies are 00:33:32.430 --> 00:33:36.328 not excessive. Decor is expected to receive subsidies 00:33:36.338 --> 00:33:41.818 over 50% of their total revenue for Decor 703 customers 00:33:41.828 --> 00:33:45.709 The company receives over $1 million in subsidy. This 00:33:45.719 --> 00:33:51.670 translates to about $1897 of subsidy per each deco 00:33:52.019 --> 00:34:03.318 customer next flight. 00:34:03.318 --> 00:34:06.489 Yes. Due co is required to submit a general rate case 00:34:06.500 --> 00:34:09.889 or GRC application which they filed on October 2nd 00:34:09.898 --> 00:34:14.387 2023. The commission's review which includes that is 00:34:14.398 --> 00:34:17.907 not limited to service quality. The reasonable list 00:34:17.918 --> 00:34:21.387 of the company's expenses including the investment 00:34:21.398 --> 00:34:25.438 of the network and also the affordability of essential 00:34:25.447 --> 00:34:28.668 communication services. How advocates is scheduled 00:34:28.677 --> 00:34:31.548 to submit and file our testimony in response to their 00:34:31.559 --> 00:34:35.389 application on April 12th. Next flight flight number 00:34:35.398 --> 00:34:43.559 five, 00:34:43.559 --> 00:34:47.378 service quality. We review the service quality of Decor's 00:34:47.389 --> 00:34:51.840 broadband and basic telephone service. We review customer 00:34:51.849 --> 00:34:56.179 complaints, trouble reports, service tickets and the 00:34:56.188 --> 00:34:59.500 restoration of services after an outage. Just to name 00:34:59.510 --> 00:35:05.889 a few next slide. 00:35:05.889 --> 00:35:09.530 We also examined the reasonableness of due co's expenses 00:35:09.539 --> 00:35:12.320 including network investment to ensure that they are 00:35:12.329 --> 00:35:16.418 just and reasonable and beneficial to all customers 00:35:16.849 --> 00:35:24.099 Next slide, 00:35:24.099 --> 00:35:27.289 how advocates were still in the discovery process and 00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:31.079 we do not have a final proposed residential rate. However 00:35:31.090 --> 00:35:35.349 based on the current available data, this table shows 00:35:35.360 --> 00:35:38.199 our preliminary residential rate that it's subject 00:35:38.208 --> 00:35:42.289 to change. De Court currently charges $25 per month 00:35:42.300 --> 00:35:44.889 for basic telephone service which was determined in 00:35:44.898 --> 00:35:49.619 its last GRC in 2019. This rate adjusted for inflation 00:35:49.628 --> 00:35:56.579 from 2019 to 2025 will amount to $30.49. The rates 00:35:56.590 --> 00:36:00.019 will also be comparable to urban rates which is approximately 00:36:00.030 --> 00:36:05.458 $31.74. Now taking the average of these amounts will 00:36:05.469 --> 00:36:11.389 result in a rate of $29.08 including surcharges and 00:36:11.398 --> 00:36:14.889 fees. This rate will result in a total monthly charge 00:36:14.898 --> 00:36:20.378 of $39.51 which is still in the range of reasonableness 00:36:20.389 --> 00:36:24.648 of 30 $40 that it was established by the commission 00:36:25.478 --> 00:36:30.929 A basic residential rate of $29.08 is significantly 00:36:30.938 --> 00:36:35.550 lower than the high prices of broadband prices currently 00:36:35.898 --> 00:36:38.809 currently charged by due court to its customers which 00:36:38.820 --> 00:36:42.478 I will discuss in the next slide. Next flight please 00:36:47.610 --> 00:36:50.780 D cor charges high prices for its broadband service 00:36:51.059 --> 00:36:54.750 and few customers subscribe to Duco high speed broadband 00:36:54.760 --> 00:36:57.918 service. The national standard for minimum broadband 00:36:57.929 --> 00:37:02.090 speed is currently 25 megabits per second upload and 00:37:02.099 --> 00:37:06.510 three megabits per second up upload um upload and but 00:37:06.519 --> 00:37:10.398 it will soon become 100 mega 100 megabits per second 00:37:10.409 --> 00:37:14.449 download and 20 megabits per second. Upload. The prices 00:37:14.458 --> 00:37:18.289 in this table shows for the speed for the data speeds 00:37:18.300 --> 00:37:21.800 of 25 megabits per second download and one gigabit 00:37:21.809 --> 00:37:26.099 per second download. The prices here do not include 00:37:26.110 --> 00:37:29.860 applicable taxes, fees and surcharges. So the prices 00:37:29.869 --> 00:37:32.708 customers pay is a little bit higher than shown here 00:37:32.719 --> 00:37:36.789 at this table. Du Cur currently sets the prices for 00:37:36.800 --> 00:37:40.429 its broadband services, not the commission. If you 00:37:40.438 --> 00:37:43.628 subscribe to voice and broadband services for speeds 00:37:43.639 --> 00:37:49.599 of 25 megabits. The total monthly price is about $122.95 00:37:50.530 --> 00:37:54.030 for low income customers. After applying the California 00:37:54.039 --> 00:37:57.309 and federal lifeline discount, the price is still high 00:37:57.320 --> 00:38:03.050 at $94.70 for broadband speeds of one gigabit per second 00:38:03.059 --> 00:38:09.728 download. The monthly price is $132.95 for low income 00:38:09.739 --> 00:38:12.820 customers. After applying the discount, the price is 00:38:12.829 --> 00:38:18.418 still high at 100 and $4.70 for a broadband only plan 00:38:18.429 --> 00:38:22.019 I show on the table. The prices are even higher in 00:38:22.030 --> 00:38:25.878 comparison. Some companies that offer broadband services 00:38:25.889 --> 00:38:30.159 do offer a low income plan. Comcast offers a low income 00:38:30.168 --> 00:38:33.559 broadband plan called internet Essentials which charges 00:38:33.570 --> 00:38:37.489 995 per month per speeds up to 50 megabits per second 00:38:37.500 --> 00:38:42.329 download and 2995 per month per speeds of 100 megabits 00:38:42.340 --> 00:38:46.458 per second. Download deco does not offer a low income 00:38:46.469 --> 00:38:53.938 plan. Next slide, 00:38:53.938 --> 00:38:56.159 we want to hear from you. We want to hear from the 00:38:56.168 --> 00:38:59.280 public regarding your experience with you co services 00:39:00.079 --> 00:39:04.179 your feedback and comments, help build our understanding 00:39:04.500 --> 00:39:08.918 our analysis and recommendations. My contact information 00:39:08.929 --> 00:39:11.300 is here on the slide. We would love if you have any 00:39:11.309 --> 00:39:14.699 questions. We, we appreciate your time and we look 00:39:14.708 --> 00:39:17.780 forward to hearing about your concerns and your comments 00:39:18.699 --> 00:39:23.679 Thank you. 00:39:23.679 --> 00:39:28.458 Thank, thank you Crystal Chavez Jones for your presentation 00:39:29.010 --> 00:39:33.438 We'll now move to the public if you want to speak and 00:39:33.449 --> 00:39:38.719 have not already done. So please press star one on 00:39:38.728 --> 00:39:43.119 your phone now and the operator will add you to the 00:39:43.128 --> 00:39:49.260 queue of speakers. If you do speak, we ask that you 00:39:49.269 --> 00:39:54.389 speak slowly and clearly so that the reporter is able 00:39:54.398 --> 00:39:58.820 to capture everything that is said. We ask that you 00:39:58.829 --> 00:40:03.199 state and spell your name and if you'd like the city 00:40:03.208 --> 00:40:07.639 you, you are calling from, you may decide at any time 00:40:07.648 --> 00:40:11.809 before we end the form to speak simply by pressing 00:40:11.820 --> 00:40:14.800 star one 00:40:14.800 --> 00:40:19.300 operator. How many individuals are in the queue? We 00:40:19.309 --> 00:40:25.760 have one at this time 00:40:25.760 --> 00:40:33.289 to help ensure we have we hear from everyone. Um Each 00:40:33.300 --> 00:40:38.530 speaker will have a time of three minutes, although 00:40:38.539 --> 00:40:43.659 that is not an issue right now. 00:40:43.659 --> 00:40:46.219 Hm. 00:40:46.219 --> 00:40:50.519 A chime will be sounded when the one when the minute 00:40:50.530 --> 00:40:55.478 is up, we will be able to hear you most clearly. If 00:40:55.489 --> 00:40:59.418 you speak directly into your phone or headset, it is 00:40:59.429 --> 00:41:05.179 best not to use speakerphone with that operator. Please 00:41:05.188 --> 00:41:09.969 proceed to the first speaker in the queue. Thank you 00:41:10.309 --> 00:41:15.409 Ramona Phillips. Your line is open. Um Hello, my name 00:41:15.418 --> 00:41:24.938 is Ramona R am on a Phillips Phill IP S 00:41:24.938 --> 00:41:29.269 I am a farmer. I live outside of the town of Duco 00:41:29.500 --> 00:41:34.110 several miles at this point in time. I am an invalid 00:41:34.119 --> 00:41:37.909 in that I cannot see to drive anywhere. I am totally 00:41:37.918 --> 00:41:43.148 limited to the ability to use the telephone. Um I would 00:41:43.159 --> 00:41:48.958 be unable to continue service with the telephone in 00:41:49.110 --> 00:41:55.559 Decor if you were to raise rates. I am, I have already 00:41:55.570 --> 00:41:58.188 had to eliminate long distance services because the 00:41:58.199 --> 00:42:06.699 charges became so high in the area. I feel that since 00:42:06.889 --> 00:42:10.769 we are rural in the area and, and very limited in our 00:42:10.780 --> 00:42:16.019 access to the outside world, we really need to be able 00:42:16.030 --> 00:42:21.309 to maintain an affordable telephone service. And I 00:42:21.320 --> 00:42:24.648 am very upset with the fact that you're talking about 00:42:24.849 --> 00:42:30.489 I increasing the uh the charges. And I do feel that 00:42:30.918 --> 00:42:34.708 uh if you were to raise the rate higher, as I've heard 00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:37.889 is going to happen that I would be forced to drop the 00:42:37.898 --> 00:42:40.478 telephone service, which my family has had for five 00:42:40.489 --> 00:42:43.110 generations here. We were among the first people to 00:42:43.119 --> 00:42:45.809 put in the phone lines and we used to own the lines 00:42:45.820 --> 00:42:49.239 to the telephone due course service. So I totally understand 00:42:49.250 --> 00:42:52.869 how important the telephone line is. I remember helping 00:42:52.878 --> 00:42:56.260 to repair the lines to the main line when I was a 00:42:56.269 --> 00:43:00.489 little kid shinning up the post and repairing the transformers 00:43:00.500 --> 00:43:03.239 So I get everything that's involved with the telephone 00:43:03.250 --> 00:43:07.438 line, but I really uh resent having the government 00:43:07.449 --> 00:43:12.079 come in and force us to make increases in our in our 00:43:12.090 --> 00:43:16.750 charges. 00:43:16.750 --> 00:43:20.389 That's all. 00:43:20.389 --> 00:43:25.530 Thank you, Ramona Phillips for your comment operator 00:43:26.780 --> 00:43:32.289 Next commenter, please. Thank you. 00:43:32.289 --> 00:43:35.699 Our next comment comes from the town of Duco Eric Boat 00:43:35.938 --> 00:43:41.019 Your line is open. 00:43:41.019 --> 00:43:47.449 Thank you. LA So to for your comments, I get it, 00:43:47.449 --> 00:43:50.500 then come in your sleep. 00:43:50.500 --> 00:43:52.860 Thank you. 00:43:52.860 --> 00:43:56.840 I know that come from the town, there goes after line 00:43:58.958 --> 00:44:02.458 Hello, 00:44:02.458 --> 00:44:08.110 your line is open. Can you hear me? We can hear you 00:44:08.590 --> 00:44:16.438 Ok. My name is Doctor Jesse Coronado, Doctor Jesse 00:44:16.909 --> 00:44:24.340 Coronado Coron Ad O and I am the principal here at 00:44:24.349 --> 00:44:29.208 Duco Elementary School. 00:44:29.208 --> 00:44:33.938 Ok. I can not judge 00:44:33.938 --> 00:44:37.519 and Dr Coronado, you may proceed in providing your 00:44:37.530 --> 00:44:42.079 comment. Ok? I have been here for three years and I 00:44:42.090 --> 00:44:45.579 have directly experienced the economic challenges that 00:44:45.590 --> 00:44:49.010 our community experiences on a daily basis. I have 00:44:49.019 --> 00:44:52.958 Children that come to school with no coat shoes that 00:44:52.969 --> 00:44:57.929 need to be replaced and sometimes our staff supports 00:44:57.938 --> 00:45:02.679 that. And I mean, our parents work from sun up to sundown 00:45:03.250 --> 00:45:09.019 They make minimum wages at best and it is very difficult 00:45:09.030 --> 00:45:11.809 for them to make ends meet. We've had resource fairs 00:45:11.820 --> 00:45:15.918 here. We've had different events where it's evident 00:45:15.929 --> 00:45:19.579 that people need a support and knowledge of different 00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:23.500 and different levels of capacities in, in just different 00:45:23.510 --> 00:45:28.239 things. So I, I firmly believe that increasing rates 00:45:28.250 --> 00:45:33.099 is going to be detrimental to our community. I mean 00:45:33.159 --> 00:45:36.519 we've all seen how expensive groceries have become 00:45:36.760 --> 00:45:39.219 where you walk out of the supermarket with two bags 00:45:39.228 --> 00:45:43.719 of food and it's $100. And when our families are making 00:45:43.938 --> 00:45:47.000 an, you know, an average or a farm worker, parents 00:45:47.010 --> 00:45:53.239 make an average of probably $13,000 a year. How do 00:45:53.250 --> 00:45:59.219 we determine what the priority is of survival mode 00:45:59.228 --> 00:46:02.539 Because many of our parents are on that, on that mode 00:46:02.550 --> 00:46:05.398 Exactly is that they're trying to survive, trying to 00:46:05.409 --> 00:46:11.500 make ends meet and raising rates would just be very 00:46:11.510 --> 00:46:13.938 very difficult for our families to continue having 00:46:13.949 --> 00:46:17.579 phone service and communication, which is critical 00:46:17.590 --> 00:46:22.449 for them. Um to work, they receive phone calls in the 00:46:22.458 --> 00:46:26.519 morning from their foreman that are sharing with them 00:46:26.530 --> 00:46:31.329 where to go to work. Um, during winter seasons when 00:46:31.340 --> 00:46:37.599 it's raining, um, they're not working so they file 00:46:37.610 --> 00:46:41.659 unemployment and we all know unemployment is marginal 00:46:41.668 --> 00:46:47.510 at best for economic survival for our families. So 00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:51.000 I, I firmly believe that, you know, um increasing rates 00:46:51.010 --> 00:46:53.869 is just not gonna work for our families and community 00:46:54.168 --> 00:46:57.849 They are already challenged with many things that they 00:46:57.860 --> 00:47:01.898 have to prioritize for their Children and so increasing 00:47:01.909 --> 00:47:12.949 it would just be not good for them. 00:47:12.949 --> 00:47:17.668 Um Doctor Jesse Coronado, we appreciate you being with 00:47:17.679 --> 00:47:22.510 us tonight and calling in to share your thoughts. Thank 00:47:22.519 --> 00:47:26.750 you. No, I, I appreciate that. I, I appreciate um you 00:47:26.760 --> 00:47:30.418 listening to me and, and my concerns and you know, 00:47:30.429 --> 00:47:32.840 I really want to support my community and help them 00:47:32.849 --> 00:47:37.809 and we, I've done that, you know, by raising um or 00:47:37.820 --> 00:47:41.639 holding um resource fairs and things like that to provide 00:47:41.648 --> 00:47:49.269 more support and services to them. 00:47:49.269 --> 00:47:55.418 Thank you, Doctor Coronado. So they could, 00:47:55.418 --> 00:48:02.148 I would like to continue with the additional persons 00:48:02.978 --> 00:48:09.958 uh in the room where Dr Jesse Coronado is and then 00:48:09.969 --> 00:48:16.019 we will go back to, I believe it was Eric Vote. How 00:48:16.300 --> 00:48:21.750 was going to speak and something happened where Mr 00:48:21.800 --> 00:48:28.938 Doctor Jesse Coronado came in. So with that is uh well 00:48:28.949 --> 00:48:34.978 operator, please announce the next commentary. 00:48:34.978 --> 00:48:39.809 Hello, sign is open, go ahead and speak. This is Barbara 00:48:39.898 --> 00:48:51.989 Daniel and that is spelled Barbar ad a Niel. And I 00:48:52.000 --> 00:48:56.969 have, I was born in this community. I have lived here 00:48:56.978 --> 00:49:04.750 since 1946 and I have seen the community change from 00:49:04.760 --> 00:49:10.378 being farm owners to farm laborers and the people that 00:49:10.389 --> 00:49:16.780 work and live here are hard working, honest people 00:49:16.789 --> 00:49:22.728 that get up early. Um and they're off to work at four 00:49:22.739 --> 00:49:28.139 and five in the morning and they work hard for the 00:49:28.148 --> 00:49:32.949 money that they make. And it's very little. The school 00:49:32.958 --> 00:49:39.128 I know has almost everyone, if not everyone on free 00:49:39.139 --> 00:49:44.688 lunch programs because of the poverty in the community 00:49:45.139 --> 00:49:51.849 And I know that this rate effect would be taking, uh 00:49:52.099 --> 00:49:56.809 essentially food from the mouth of the families because 00:49:56.820 --> 00:50:03.648 this is, uh, how they, every penny they make is used 00:50:04.079 --> 00:50:10.250 And there is no frivolousness. If you, uh, drove through 00:50:10.260 --> 00:50:16.329 the town, you would see that there is no frivolity 00:50:16.519 --> 00:50:21.070 no swimming pools in this community. This is a hard 00:50:21.079 --> 00:50:27.510 working bunch of people that a deserve what they get 00:50:27.760 --> 00:50:32.978 and a rate increase is not what they deserve. And that 00:50:32.989 --> 00:50:37.239 was all I wanted to say. And thank you for listening 00:50:38.590 --> 00:50:42.239 before you leave. Comment. Or would you state your 00:50:42.250 --> 00:50:46.728 name again and spell it for us? We want to make sure 00:50:46.739 --> 00:50:51.159 the court reporters took your name down correctly. 00:50:51.849 --> 00:51:02.300 Ok. Uh Barbara Daniel and that's spelled Barbar A Daniel 00:51:02.309 --> 00:51:11.849 Daniel. And we have had five generations in this town 00:51:12.228 --> 00:51:18.289 My grandmother used to work the um telephone company 00:51:18.530 --> 00:51:24.708 vines when uh the and dial up people before or ring 00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:29.059 up people back in the thirties. So we've been here 00:51:29.070 --> 00:51:31.398 forever. 00:51:31.398 --> 00:51:34.489 Thank you. 00:51:34.489 --> 00:51:37.418 Thank you Barbara Daniel for calling in tonight and 00:51:37.429 --> 00:51:41.019 sharing your thoughts operator. Please announce the 00:51:41.030 --> 00:51:45.449 next commenter. 00:51:45.449 --> 00:51:48.159 Thank you. Our next comment comes from Scott Foster 00:51:48.168 --> 00:51:55.530 Your line is open. Hi, I'm Scott Foster. Sco tt F OS 00:51:55.719 --> 00:51:59.929 T. Er, I live in a small community of Kennedy Meadows 00:52:00.199 --> 00:52:02.510 Um 00:52:02.510 --> 00:52:05.978 We have a population of right around 80 people year 00:52:05.989 --> 00:52:11.228 round. Um, and a rate, a rate, a rate hike is going 00:52:11.239 --> 00:52:14.090 to do nothing for these people in a small community 00:52:14.099 --> 00:52:17.869 but cause them to drop Decor as their phone service 00:52:18.119 --> 00:52:22.619 and most likely turn to somebody like Starlink. Um 00:52:24.059 --> 00:52:28.280 And if, if that does happen and continue to happen 00:52:28.668 --> 00:52:31.039 um D cor is going to be out of business, there's, there's 00:52:31.050 --> 00:52:34.929 no reason for the state to force a small company out 00:52:34.938 --> 00:52:42.199 of business. Um I know of 26 people that have dropped 00:52:42.208 --> 00:52:46.849 Decor and switched to Starlink. Um 00:52:46.849 --> 00:52:50.739 and it's just not a good thing. These guys do a great 00:52:50.750 --> 00:52:54.760 job for a small community and we need to make sure 00:52:54.769 --> 00:52:59.059 that they stay in business, not to mention um If people 00:52:59.070 --> 00:53:02.909 can afford an actual phone line, you know, we live 00:53:02.918 --> 00:53:06.969 off grid to where we have no electricity. So um if 00:53:06.978 --> 00:53:09.978 these people's electricity is out, they can't make 00:53:09.989 --> 00:53:13.219 any phone calls if they're relying on satellite. Um 00:53:14.958 --> 00:53:17.949 And if they do have Decor, if it is affordable, then 00:53:17.958 --> 00:53:20.570 they can make a phone call with no electricity. So 00:53:20.958 --> 00:53:29.188 um hopefully that is taken into consideration. 00:53:29.188 --> 00:53:32.148 Thank you, Scott Foster. We appreciate you calling 00:53:32.159 --> 00:53:37.760 in tonight. And uh operator, would you please let me 00:53:37.769 --> 00:53:41.938 know if there is anyone else in the queue? 00:53:41.938 --> 00:53:45.909 I'm sharing no further comments at this time. 00:53:45.909 --> 00:53:51.199 Ok. Well, with that, I believe I'd like to take a 10 00:53:51.208 --> 00:53:55.340 minute break to see if anyone else is going to call 00:53:55.349 --> 00:54:00.860 in. And so we will take a 10 minute break, come back 00:54:00.869 --> 00:54:11.139 at um 705. And um we are off the record 00:54:11.139 --> 00:54:15.280 before I conclude this public participation hearing 00:54:15.769 --> 00:54:20.438 I'd like to confirm with the court reporter that there 00:54:20.449 --> 00:54:30.409 are no additional commenters waiting to be heard. 00:54:30.409 --> 00:54:33.699 This is the operator showing no additional comments 00:54:33.708 --> 00:54:42.769 at this time. Thank you very much. 00:54:42.769 --> 00:54:46.809 This will conclude all of the speakers who've signed 00:54:46.820 --> 00:54:51.628 up to speak. If any of you would like to provide additional 00:54:51.639 --> 00:54:55.878 input or comments. After this hearing, you may submit 00:54:55.929 --> 00:54:59.679 written comments on the docket card for this proceeding 00:55:00.199 --> 00:55:04.668 which can be found on the commission's website Act 00:55:05.429 --> 00:55:20.969 A PPF dot CPUC dot C a.gov backslash C backslash A 00:55:21.409 --> 00:55:30.909 23 10008. If you need assistance with providing additional 00:55:30.918 --> 00:55:35.889 comments, please contact the commission's public advisor's 00:55:35.898 --> 00:55:47.610 office by emailing public dot advisor at CPUC dot C 00:55:47.619 --> 00:55:50.849 a.gov, 00:55:50.849 --> 00:55:54.510 Carolyn Chin from Commissioner John Reynolds office 00:55:54.519 --> 00:55:58.489 Would you like to add any additional comments? Yeah 00:55:58.500 --> 00:56:01.099 actually, I just have a few brief comments. I just 00:56:01.110 --> 00:56:03.969 wanted to offer my thanks to everyone who's joined 00:56:03.978 --> 00:56:06.739 us this evening and taking time out of their day. Uh 00:56:06.760 --> 00:56:09.679 We really appreciate hearing your thoughts and concerns 00:56:09.949 --> 00:56:12.938 Um I also just want to reiterate that there has been 00:56:12.949 --> 00:56:16.989 no action taken on the applications um and no action 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:20.409 will occur until a proposed decision is drafted by 00:56:20.418 --> 00:56:23.500 Judge Belvin who is here with us and then when the 00:56:23.510 --> 00:56:26.699 majority of the five commissioners vote on the proposed 00:56:26.708 --> 00:56:29.789 decision. Um But once again, I'd like to thank you 00:56:29.800 --> 00:56:33.519 and everyone um who made this possible, the court reporters 00:56:33.530 --> 00:56:38.090 um the pu staff who worked on this um our presenters 00:56:38.378 --> 00:56:42.849 um our representative from CD and Judge Melvin. Thank 00:56:42.860 --> 00:56:44.969 you. 00:56:44.969 --> 00:56:50.398 Thank you very much, Adviser Chen that concludes this 00:56:50.409 --> 00:56:54.110 evening's public participation hearing. Thank you all 00:56:54.119 --> 00:56:57.820 for your input and comments. We are adjourned and off 00:56:57.829 --> 00:56:58.579 the record.