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We'll begin momentarily. Thank you for your

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welcome to the pub public ca Sorry. Welcome to the

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This is a public participation hearing in Southern

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California Edison Companies application for authority

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to increase its authorized revenues for electric service

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in 2025. Among other things and reflect that increase

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in rates. Judge Seiber you may begin. Thank you, operator

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We will now be on the record. The commission will come

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to order. This is the time and place set for the public

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participation hearing in the general rate case application

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of Southern California Edison Company application 23-05

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dash 010. My name is Aaron Seibert and I'm one of the

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administrative law judges assigned to this proceeding

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I'm co assigned with Judge Sophia Park who's listening

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in to today's hearing. We are also joined by Karen

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Douglas who is the signed commissioner for this case

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Commissioner Douglas, would you like to make any opening

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remarks?

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Yes, thank you, Judge Seibert. I would and um thank

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you also to Judge Park. I'm the commissioner assigned

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to this proceeding as Judge Seibert said and in this

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proceeding, we will be reviewing Southern California

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Edison 2025 general rate case. I want to start by thanking

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everyone who's here today for taking the time out of

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their busy day to participate in today's public participation

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hearing. This being the first of six such hearings

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These hearings are a very important way for the commission

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to hear directly from individuals and communities who

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are impacted um by the results of this proceeding.

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And your feedback at these hearings gives us very valuable

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insights into concerns and priorities that will go

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a long way in helping us make informed and balanced

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decisions. This phase of the general rate case determines

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the total amount of revenue that Southern California

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Edison would be authorized to collect to cover various

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utility costs from 2025 through 2028. Right now, California

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is wrestling with a number of very important priorities

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that are necessary for the provision of affordable

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safe, reliable and clean energy service. These priorities

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include investments in clean energy programs, infrastructure

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maintenance, upgrades, customer eng organization needs

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and mitigation work against the continued threat of

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catastrophic wildfires. I'm also well aware of the

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affordability challenges that exist and that these

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priorities could place on ratepayers going forward

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to that end. We'll be scrutinizing the necessity of

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Southern California Edison's requested funding authorization

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and taking action to contain costs and minimize rate

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increases. With that said, I appreciate the opportunity

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to hear directly from community members today in order

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to understand your priorities and concerns. And I also

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want to thank the many staff who have made today's

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hearing possible including Judge Park, Judge Seibert

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the public Advisor's office, our court reporters and

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our it staff. Thank you and, and back to you, Judge

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Seibert. Thank you, Commissioner. The primary purpose

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of today's hearing is to hear directly from Southern

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California Edison, customers and the general public

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about this particular application. Your input and comments

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are very helpful as parties and the commission continue

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to consider all aspects of Southern California Edison's

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request prior to making a decision for participants

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that wish to provide public comments today. You may

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do so by calling 1 808 157 1917 and entering pass code

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603 278 £8 for English or 379962 £7 for Spanish and

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then press star one on your phone. These instructions

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are also available on today's webcast. The operator

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will maintain the queue of public commenters and announce

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your name when it's your turn to speak. The overall

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purpose of today's hearing is to obtain public feedback

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and comments. If you have additional questions regarding

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the application, you may go to the commission's website

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at www.cpuc.ca.gov backslash PPH or contact the commission's

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public advisor at public dot advisor at cpuc.ca.gov

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If you have a question that is not directly related

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to Southern California Edison's application such as

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a question about your bill or service, we have two

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representatives from Southern California Edison, who

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are standing by today and are available to assist customers

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during the public participation hearing. This includes

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Yvette Esparza who may be contacted at 6268127362 or

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Yve tt E dot Esparz A at see.com. Alternatively, you

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may also contact Carrie Gardner at 909 7732269 or Kar

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I dot Gardn er at S ce.com. This contact information

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has also been posted to the webcast today. Before we

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start hearing from the public, I would like to give

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you a brief overview of the California Public Utilities

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Commission and the application filed by Southern California

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Edison Company. The Public Utilities Commission is

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a state agency that regulates privately owned utilities

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such as Southern California Edison Company. Among other

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things, the commission decides how much money Southern

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California Edison should be authorized to collect from

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its customers and the actual rates that will be included

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on customers' bills for electric service. The public

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utilities Commission has five commissioners who are

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appointed by the governor and confirmed by the State

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Senate Judge Park and I manage the day to day activities

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of the case. However, the five commissioners are ultimately

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the ones who will decide and vote on whether or not

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to approve Southern California Edison's request or

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some other amount. Our job as the judges will be to

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evaluate the evidence in the proceeding and to write

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a proposed decision for the commission commissioners

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to consider the five commissioners will deliberate

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and ultimately decide whether to adopt the proposed

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decision from the judges or adopt their own alternate

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decision based on the evidence in the proceeding. It

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is estimated that the commission will vote on this

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decision in the first quarter of next year.

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I will now briefly summarize Southern California Edison's

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application in May of 2023 Southern California. Edison

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submitted its general rate case request asking the

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commission for approval of their expected costs for

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owning and operating the company for the years 2025

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through 2028. The expenses included in Southern California

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Edison's rate case application generally cover the

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poles, wires, meters employees and all the other activities

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needed to deliver electricity to your home or business

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The application also includes capital expenditures

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to upgrade the electric system, replace infrastructure

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address wildfire risks related to Edison's equipment

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and improve cyber security among others. It is important

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to note that the costs that we are talking about in

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this application are just one part of Southern California

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Edison's annual operating expenses that can impact

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customer rates separate from this proceeding. The commission

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authorizes recovery of the costs that California utilities

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actually incur to purchase electricity on the open

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market. These costs are directly passed on to the consumers

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and Southern California Edison is not allowed to earn

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a profit on them. There is also another proceeding

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that will determine how approved costs are distributed

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among Southern California Edison's customers and the

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specific rates that will be included on customer bills

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This is generally referred to as the rate design proceeding

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and the application should be filed later this month

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right now though we are here to receive comments from

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the public regarding Southern California Edison's request

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to increase rates and revenue by $1.895 billion in

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2025 and additional increases of $619 million in 2026

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$664 million in 2027 and $705 million in 2028. If approved

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Southern California Edison's total revenue requirement

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will be approximately $10.27 billion in 2025. Representing

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an approximate 23% increase over 2024. If the request

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is approved, the impact on a typical residential customer

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will be a monthly bill increase of approximately $17.49

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in 2025. A typical residential customer's monthly bill

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would approximately increase by an additional $5 in

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2026 $5 in 2027 and approximately $5 in 2028. We want

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to hear what you think about Southern California. Edison's

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request comments from the public can help the Public

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Utilities Commission reach an informed decision. The

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commissioners judge Park and I pay close attention

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to the opinions. We pay close attention to the opinions

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expressed during today's public hearing. We have court

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reporters transcribing today's hearing who will be

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taking down everything that is said on the telephone

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line. If you do speak, we ask that you speak slowly

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and clearly so that the reporters are able to capture

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everything that is said, the written transcript of

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today's hearing will be available to Judge Park and

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myself and the commissioners and posted publicly on

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the docket card for this proceeding. If you or anyone

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else, you know, are not able to make comments today

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There are several other ways to provide input or become

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involved. The commission considers written public comments

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regarding Southern California Edison's application

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which may be submitted any time on the docket card

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for this proceeding by going to A PS dot CPUC dot C

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a.gov backslash C backslash A 2305010. As of today

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we have received over 100 written public comments if

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you wish to find more information on how to become

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involved in the preceding or stay updated on preceding

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developments. The commission's public advisor is available

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to assist you. Information regarding the public advisor

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is posted on the commission's website at www.cpuc.ca.gov

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or you can email the public advisor at public dot advisor

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at cpuc.ca.gov. Ok. We will now hear from members of

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the public again if you have a billing or service question

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that is unrelated to Edison's application, you may

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contact Yvette Esparza at 626 8127362 or carry Gardner

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at 909 7732269. If you wish to provide public comments

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on Southern California Edison's rate application, please

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press star one on your phone now and the operator will

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add you to the queue of speakers. When it's your turn

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the operator will announce your name. Please begin

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by spelling your full name. Provide your city and remember

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to speak slowly to make sure everyone has an opportunity

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to provide comments. Each speaker will have a time

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limit of three minutes. A chime will sound when the

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three minutes is up with that operator. Please call

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in the first speaker in the queue.

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Thank you again. As a reminder for those on the phone

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If you would wish to speak during the public comment

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period, please unmute your phone. Press star one and

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record your first and last name slowly and clearly

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when prompted. Our first caller is Michael Zinsky.

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You may go ahead.

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Hi. Can you hear me?

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Can you please go ahead? Hi. My name is Michael Bey

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V as in Victor Ensky. And I'd like to say why I

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don't think Southern Carolina happens. Edison should

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be able to increase its rates. Um It's not the job

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of captive se rate players to assure the continued

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profitability of se shareholders. In 2022 CEO Powell

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made $2.8 million total compensation. Edison issued

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three quarters of a dollar on stock dividends and since

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the last 10 years, they've increase of stocks appreciated

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by 32% overdue, an unnecessary mate or over. Excuse

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me, I put this on the website also so I'm going to

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try to speak but, and see if I can get it in

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by the three minutes but overdue but necessary maintenance

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was delayed until after the paradise disaster. Ben

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Edson went on a spending spree with fast food costs

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to the customers. I per personally witnessed huge convoys

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of brand new se trucks, 15 or 20 in number with 30

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or four staff upgrading our polls locally, they had

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three or four people mining traffic alone on a quiet

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back road where I live. These are country roads. I

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could often see them gazing idly at their cell phones

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The customers should not be penalized for as in speculation

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in nuclear energy. Bell's attempts at power plants

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fall squarely on the shoulders of helper management

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with the upper with the ongoing climate crisis as in

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claims to be going green yet slams their customers

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in so called expensive green energy. Yet it takes three

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or more years to get a solar project through the review

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process. It's an endless series of delays. Instead

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of listing all the conditions and corrections that

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need to be done, they dribble them out two or three

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at a time stretching out what have been two or three

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week process in two years. It feels like a carefully

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or calculated, slow walk because of the multiyear time

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frames and multiple handoffs. Sen associates. Could

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you forget what they've told you to correct after you've

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already corrected it and have you recorrect it again

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instead of putting you to the front of the queue in

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the view process? They throw you to the back of the

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queue along with thousands, sometimes tens of thousands

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to try again. You re you resubmit the corrections again

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and they either change their mind or they want to occasionally

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or they occasionally do help you and do some clarification

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The self generation incentive program for backup storage

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is no better. Ok. I'm going to, I'm going to just refer

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you to my comments on the website, but I'm going to

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say something given the clear and established pattern

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of misappropriation of customer money to the betterment

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of corporate officers and shareholders. It would be

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a, a trail of the public trust and dereliction of duty

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of this commission to permit the hiking of rates instead

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of see can better manage its funds. It needs to be

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nationalized so its executives could be held accountable

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as the public permitting a monopoly to exploit its

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customers is reprehensible and you serious? The customers

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are screaming rate. Who will help? I apologize for

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interrupting. Can you just slow down a little bit so

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that our court reporters can transcribe everything

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Um If, if you're ok, I have only 17 seconds left, but

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I did post this on your website. The complete the complete

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text of what I and I apologize for speaking fast. I

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just wanted to hit the three minutes but the complete

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text. Yeah, the complete text of this is on your website

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I apologize. The carriage return did not make it through

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So,

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thank you, Mr Minsky. We appreciate your comments today

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Thank you. Thank you, honorable

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operator. Next speaker.

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Our next caller is Joanne mcburney. You may go ahead

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Your line is open. Hi. Um This is, can you hear me

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Yes. Ok. It's Joanne Joanne mcburney, MC Capital Birney

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and I live in La Crescenta, California and I am all

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for taking care of what needs to be taken care of in

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terms of our grid and preventing fires and mostly I'm

00:17:31.838 --> 00:17:36.709
very concerned about the environment. However, I have

00:17:36.719 --> 00:17:43.430
been absolutely astounded at the cost of electricity

00:17:43.549 --> 00:17:48.469
at my bill every month and I'm very careful with my

00:17:48.479 --> 00:17:53.068
electricity and I just do not understand how I have

00:17:53.078 --> 00:17:59.049
such a phenomenally high bill. And

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uh there was something else that I was gonna, oh, I

00:18:02.489 --> 00:18:06.049
know the other thing that I've had a problem with with

00:18:06.059 --> 00:18:11.380
S ce is on being unable to communicate with them. At

00:18:11.390 --> 00:18:16.170
some point, I had to actually get a hold of the um

00:18:17.189 --> 00:18:21.559
the agency that oversees them because I was having

00:18:21.568 --> 00:18:25.509
trouble with an issue and there was no way to reach

00:18:25.519 --> 00:18:28.729
them by phone. They simply did not answer the phone

00:18:29.420 --> 00:18:36.088
Um So I am concerned that a great deal of the money

00:18:36.098 --> 00:18:40.568
is going to shareholders and CEO since it is a private

00:18:40.578 --> 00:18:46.250
corporation. And I think that maybe some of the expenses

00:18:46.259 --> 00:18:50.568
should come out of what they are getting paid as opposed

00:18:50.578 --> 00:18:55.848
to raising our rates.

00:18:55.848 --> 00:18:58.229
Thank you, Miss mcburney. I appreciate your comments

00:18:58.239 --> 00:19:03.509
today, operator. Next, next speaker,

00:19:03.509 --> 00:19:06.930
our next caller is Sylvia Messner. You may go ahead

00:19:07.709 --> 00:19:14.689
Thank you Sylvia Messner, Sylvi, a Messner Messn, Er

00:19:14.699 --> 00:19:18.709
and I'm in Laguna Hills to save a little time. I 100%

00:19:18.719 --> 00:19:22.209
support with the speaker. Number one and number two

00:19:22.219 --> 00:19:25.920
said um I don't think staying comfortable in your own

00:19:25.930 --> 00:19:30.380
home should be a luxury. Um I know people who are spending

00:19:30.390 --> 00:19:36.039
two and $300 a month for one room or one bedroom apartment

00:19:36.049 --> 00:19:39.459
just to stay warm. Never mind the ac in the summer

00:19:39.608 --> 00:19:42.328
I was gone a week and I returned out of town and

00:19:42.338 --> 00:19:45.750
I returned my bills the same. I had no real help in

00:19:45.799 --> 00:19:49.049
resolving that issue. That's the same thing. I think

00:19:49.059 --> 00:19:52.130
this company should be non profit, not a profit making

00:19:52.140 --> 00:19:55.828
company because utilities are a necessity for people

00:19:55.838 --> 00:19:59.640
and should not be way way over their budget. More money

00:19:59.650 --> 00:20:02.650
should be spent on looking into solar heat which is

00:20:02.660 --> 00:20:06.680
more cost effective and also doesn't cause wildfires

00:20:06.799 --> 00:20:09.250
I think that's all I have to say because number one

00:20:09.259 --> 00:20:12.140
and number two help me out a lot. I support everything

00:20:12.150 --> 00:20:17.459
they say Thank you. Thank you operator. Next speaker

00:20:20.420 --> 00:20:23.779
Our next caller did not provide their name. They mentioned

00:20:23.789 --> 00:20:27.279
anonymous from Laguna Woods Village. You may go ahead

00:20:28.670 --> 00:20:33.068
Hi. I agree with all three of what they said. Our neighbors

00:20:33.078 --> 00:20:36.559
in this community are in their eighties and their nineties

00:20:37.078 --> 00:20:44.868
Their bills now are between $250 and $750 a month for

00:20:44.880 --> 00:20:48.769
one or two bedroom units. They're now deciding if they

00:20:48.779 --> 00:20:53.699
can eat or if they can get their medication because

00:20:53.709 --> 00:20:57.140
they have to stay warm. And like number three just

00:20:57.150 --> 00:21:01.318
said, it's not a, a luxury. It's a necessity for an

00:21:01.328 --> 00:21:05.000
8090 year old to stay warm. Their houses are about

00:21:05.009 --> 00:21:10.130
72 to 74 degrees. Their units homes, condos and co

00:21:10.199 --> 00:21:14.689
ops are about the size of 890 square feet and a and

00:21:14.719 --> 00:21:20.229
1000 square feet. So there should not be a reason to

00:21:20.239 --> 00:21:25.799
have to pay between 2 to $700 a month just to keep

00:21:25.809 --> 00:21:29.000
warm. They also, most of our neighbors have Children

00:21:29.009 --> 00:21:31.500
that live out of state, adult Children in their fifties

00:21:31.509 --> 00:21:34.449
sixties and seventies. Some live in the Dakotas where

00:21:34.459 --> 00:21:38.400
it gets to about 30 below zero and their bills per

00:21:38.410 --> 00:21:42.568
month in 5060 year old homes that are not all that

00:21:43.229 --> 00:21:47.989
efficient are 60 $70 a month so that they can stay

00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:52.529
warm in minus 30 degree weather. So Laguna Woods Village

00:21:52.900 --> 00:21:58.309
it gets to about 50 degrees, maybe, maybe when it's

00:21:58.318 --> 00:22:02.519
cold and senior citizens again, like I said, should

00:22:02.529 --> 00:22:07.180
not have to choose between eating medication or trying

00:22:07.189 --> 00:22:12.029
to stay warm. So again, we thank those first three

00:22:12.039 --> 00:22:15.259
that spoke. We, we agree with everything and we hope

00:22:15.269 --> 00:22:19.729
that somebody does listen to this so that senior citizens

00:22:19.739 --> 00:22:23.529
do not have to extend budgets that they don't have

00:22:23.539 --> 00:22:27.578
on social security just to pay to stay warm in the

00:22:27.588 --> 00:22:31.858
summer or cool in the winter. It's for their health

00:22:31.868 --> 00:22:35.680
Thank you very much for listening.

00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:40.180
Thank you very much operator. Next speaker,

00:22:40.180 --> 00:22:43.140
our next caller is Brian Kaplan. You may go ahead.

00:22:45.029 --> 00:22:49.130
Uh Yes, hi. Uh My name is Brian Kaplan B Ria N

00:22:50.318 --> 00:22:55.358
uh yeah, slow it down a little bit. Um Well, my wife

00:22:55.368 --> 00:23:00.088
and I are uh retired customers. Um We're on a tight

00:23:00.098 --> 00:23:04.828
budget and I the increases are like a undue burden

00:23:04.838 --> 00:23:11.930
on us. Um uh Southern California Edison has been increasing

00:23:12.160 --> 00:23:16.858
rates over the years and the amount of increases are

00:23:16.868 --> 00:23:21.390
are coming faster and faster. Um Like uh when I moved

00:23:21.400 --> 00:23:27.078
here, it was uh below 19 cents a kilowatt hour. Now

00:23:27.088 --> 00:23:31.729
it's 33 cents and they restructured their tier system

00:23:31.739 --> 00:23:37.328
too where um tier one is smaller. So when you get a

00:23:37.338 --> 00:23:43.390
bump into tier two increase rates, uh it comes faster

00:23:43.430 --> 00:23:46.900
So they, they manipulated the tier system where you're

00:23:46.910 --> 00:23:50.108
gonna be in tier two faster and your rates will be

00:23:50.118 --> 00:23:55.578
increased Um, yeah, it's just, uh, uh, you, you said

00:23:55.588 --> 00:23:59.170
earlier that you, uh, would scrutinize this. Um, I

00:23:59.180 --> 00:24:02.640
hope you take a really good look at it, um, because

00:24:02.650 --> 00:24:07.670
the increases are outrageous and, um, I just, um, I

00:24:07.680 --> 00:24:11.170
think it's, it's really gonna hurt the middle class

00:24:11.180 --> 00:24:16.838
Um, we are on a tight budget. We, we are not, um

00:24:16.848 --> 00:24:19.890
you know, uh, people that are on, that can qualify

00:24:19.900 --> 00:24:24.390
the non care, um, or the care customers. Uh We are

00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:28.430
non carere customers because we don't qualify um because

00:24:28.439 --> 00:24:32.618
that threshold is so low, but we we are not real. I

00:24:32.630 --> 00:24:36.039
mean, we've, you know, we're lower middle class people

00:24:36.410 --> 00:24:40.549
and um the rate increases is gonna be uh undue burden

00:24:40.559 --> 00:24:45.769
on us and we really appreciate if you guys um do increase

00:24:45.779 --> 00:24:51.098
it, that, that you moderate it and um and take a really

00:24:51.108 --> 00:24:55.509
good look at what they're doing to us. Thank you.

00:24:55.509 --> 00:25:00.279
Thank you, Mister Kaplan operator. Next speaker. Our

00:25:00.289 --> 00:25:03.410
next caller is Gary Curtis. You may go ahead. Your

00:25:03.420 --> 00:25:08.430
line is open. Hi there. My name is Gary Curtis. Uh

00:25:08.439 --> 00:25:21.539
Gary Garry, last name Curtis Cu Rt is and I'm calling

00:25:21.549 --> 00:25:25.078
from Hanford, California or the Central valley of central

00:25:25.088 --> 00:25:30.759
California. I'm calling because I have noticed including

00:25:30.769 --> 00:25:34.588
my utilities has been going up every month. I've noticed

00:25:34.598 --> 00:25:37.910
that Edison constantly are sending those little white

00:25:37.920 --> 00:25:42.049
pamphlets with our bill every single month, asking

00:25:42.059 --> 00:25:45.039
for more money for this, asking for more money for

00:25:45.049 --> 00:25:48.959
that we are not made out of money. Ok. We do not

00:25:48.969 --> 00:25:53.750
have trees that grow money in our backyard. I agree

00:25:53.759 --> 00:25:57.789
with the other callers. They are asking too much money

00:25:58.189 --> 00:26:01.529
Now, you guys on the other end probably make a lot

00:26:01.539 --> 00:26:04.660
of more money than we do. And you guys can afford these

00:26:04.670 --> 00:26:09.170
increases. But people on fixed incomes and disabled

00:26:09.180 --> 00:26:14.779
like myself has to go by a budget and they continue

00:26:14.789 --> 00:26:20.578
to increase our rates. You do not see us filing paperwork

00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:23.969
with the commission asking for a decrease in rates

00:26:23.979 --> 00:26:27.049
every month because there's no such thing that exists

00:26:27.430 --> 00:26:31.219
But Edison's allowed to send a request in every single

00:26:31.229 --> 00:26:36.390
month for increase. And it's getting to the point where

00:26:37.219 --> 00:26:40.529
you know, people are gonna be not for that, they're

00:26:40.539 --> 00:26:44.039
gonna afford, they'll have to, you know, they just

00:26:44.049 --> 00:26:46.209
don't have the extra money. Everything else is going

00:26:46.219 --> 00:26:52.019
up, you have rent insurance, car insurance, fuel groceries

00:26:52.338 --> 00:26:58.809
your your rent, you know your gas bill, you know, we

00:26:58.818 --> 00:27:03.088
do not have extra money coming out. You know, please

00:27:03.098 --> 00:27:06.799
stop this altogether. That's all I'm asking. Please

00:27:06.809 --> 00:27:12.729
say no this, this cannot continue. You know, we have

00:27:12.739 --> 00:27:16.380
to live, we're all humans, you know, you got to make

00:27:16.390 --> 00:27:20.949
it reasonable. Thank you.

00:27:20.949 --> 00:27:25.739
Thank you, Mister Curtis operator. Next speaker,

00:27:25.739 --> 00:27:29.900
our next speaker is Tracy Carlo. You mean go ahead

00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:40.078
Ok. Hello, sorry. Can you hear me?

00:27:40.078 --> 00:27:43.759
Yes, we can hear you. Ok. My name is Tracy Cutter Skill

00:27:43.769 --> 00:27:52.009
My name is Tr Ac Ycarrasquillo. And so I do agree with

00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:55.838
all the callers that have spoken. I see a large increase

00:27:55.848 --> 00:27:59.439
in my bill every month, 3 to $400. And that is just

00:27:59.670 --> 00:28:02.949
that's outrageous. We have to live and, you know, somebody

00:28:02.959 --> 00:28:06.519
needs to really take a long hard look at this and I

00:28:06.529 --> 00:28:09.539
just don't think that it is fair, you know, with everything

00:28:09.549 --> 00:28:13.039
that is going on inflation, you know, the cost of rent

00:28:13.049 --> 00:28:15.769
and everything else that is going up and, you know

00:28:15.779 --> 00:28:18.910
with prices and then, you know, let alone you trying

00:28:18.920 --> 00:28:22.769
to enjoy your life and your family paying a 304 $100

00:28:22.779 --> 00:28:25.618
light bill every month. That's not fair. So I agree

00:28:25.630 --> 00:28:28.650
with every caller that have spoken and I just ask that

00:28:28.660 --> 00:28:32.189
you please reconsider this and think of others as you

00:28:32.199 --> 00:28:35.890
would think of yourself. Thank you.

00:28:35.890 --> 00:28:39.500
Thank you for your comments today, operator, next speaker

00:28:47.108 --> 00:28:50.588
our next caller is Lynn Wood Rock. You may go ahead

00:28:51.939 --> 00:28:55.039
Uh Thank you. You can hear me. Uh Last name is W

00:28:55.088 --> 00:29:01.088
I TT Rock and I'm in the southern or South Orange County

00:29:01.279 --> 00:29:04.890
area. Yeah, I agree with everyone that's already spoken

00:29:04.900 --> 00:29:08.640
These rates are really not necessary. They're, they're

00:29:08.650 --> 00:29:14.549
outrageous. Um The California Public Utilities Commission

00:29:14.559 --> 00:29:19.059
has already approved 3.29 billion in spending for Southern

00:29:19.068 --> 00:29:22.959
California citizen to mitigate wildfires and this is

00:29:22.969 --> 00:29:25.670
a state issue. It has nothing to do with you. Know

00:29:25.680 --> 00:29:29.858
a power line going down, if the state would take care

00:29:29.868 --> 00:29:32.759
of mitigating that risk by properly maintaining our

00:29:32.769 --> 00:29:35.358
force, this wouldn't be an issue. And of course, yes

00:29:35.368 --> 00:29:39.000
you need to maintain your power grid and so forth.

00:29:39.009 --> 00:29:42.799
But that should not be a reason to increase the, the

00:29:42.809 --> 00:29:46.380
rates. They, they're going up all the time and for

00:29:46.390 --> 00:29:49.729
what, we're not really seeing any kind of return. And

00:29:49.739 --> 00:29:52.160
also there's a lot of money that you guys are wanting

00:29:52.170 --> 00:29:56.479
to get into renewable energy sources, which again,

00:29:56.489 --> 00:29:59.709
if you would just run your operation more effectively

00:29:59.719 --> 00:30:04.390
and responsibly, it wouldn't be a need. Um The idea

00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:08.140
that, you know, we have to find other sources. Um It's

00:30:08.150 --> 00:30:13.529
just an excuse to basically from my perspective, in

00:30:13.539 --> 00:30:17.588
my opinion, to line the pockets of a lot of uh politicians

00:30:17.598 --> 00:30:22.229
as well as uh some of your executives on your board

00:30:22.449 --> 00:30:24.920
as opposed to really doing something that's going to

00:30:24.930 --> 00:30:29.420
be sustainable and uh affordable for those of us who

00:30:29.430 --> 00:30:32.989
live in California. And uh again, it's a really effective

00:30:33.000 --> 00:30:36.029
way to drive a lot of people out of the state. And

00:30:36.039 --> 00:30:38.500
uh you know, again, it's hard not to see it as something

00:30:38.509 --> 00:30:42.180
that's being deliberately done. I'll end there. Thank

00:30:42.189 --> 00:30:46.588
you. Thank you for your comments today, operator, next

00:30:46.598 --> 00:30:48.729
speaker,

00:30:48.729 --> 00:30:51.828
our next caller is William Williams. You may go ahead

00:30:52.549 --> 00:31:00.469
Thank you, William Williams. Will I am Willi A MS these

00:31:00.479 --> 00:31:04.130
recent rate increases are substantial. I have seen

00:31:04.140 --> 00:31:08.029
my personal electric bill practically double when I'm

00:31:08.039 --> 00:31:13.328
using about one third less power every month. These

00:31:13.338 --> 00:31:16.160
rate increases are ruining the quality of life in Southern

00:31:16.170 --> 00:31:20.059
California. You're driving people out of southern California

00:31:20.068 --> 00:31:23.180
because affordability for quality of life here in California

00:31:23.189 --> 00:31:27.779
is now gone. The company has received rate increases

00:31:27.789 --> 00:31:31.900
over the past three years and now this recent request

00:31:31.910 --> 00:31:35.400
for a rate increase is, is outrageous. My question

00:31:35.410 --> 00:31:39.338
is, when is the CPUC going to require S CE to start

00:31:39.348 --> 00:31:42.500
looking at stabilizing the rates and reducing the rates

00:31:43.078 --> 00:31:46.519
No one talks about that. It's just one rate increase

00:31:46.529 --> 00:31:48.848
after another.

00:31:48.848 --> 00:31:54.939
So the question is why is the C PC PUC allowing S

00:31:54.949 --> 00:31:58.949
CE to continuously raise rates instead of holding the

00:31:58.959 --> 00:32:01.900
line and asking the company, what are you doing to

00:32:01.910 --> 00:32:06.059
reduce the rates going forward? I'm beginning to question

00:32:06.068 --> 00:32:09.549
whether or not the fire damages and the judgment from

00:32:09.559 --> 00:32:13.838
the fire damages are buried into these rate increases

00:32:13.848 --> 00:32:16.900
We have no way of proving that hopefully somebody at

00:32:16.910 --> 00:32:20.380
the CPUC is going to dig deep and see if that's not

00:32:20.390 --> 00:32:23.979
happening because these rate increases are not sustainable

00:32:24.150 --> 00:32:26.479
Thank you.

00:32:26.479 --> 00:32:31.368
Thank you, Mr Williams operator. Next speaker.

00:32:31.368 --> 00:32:35.789
Our next caller is Dr Armand Agata. You may go ahead

00:32:38.650 --> 00:32:41.509
Can you hear me?

00:32:41.509 --> 00:32:43.979
Yes, we can hear you.

00:32:43.979 --> 00:32:48.400
Hi, Doctor Armand A Kanan. Um I do actually support

00:32:48.410 --> 00:32:51.519
uh uh what is currently happening with the raids and

00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:55.088
as someone who teaches management for sustainability

00:32:55.098 --> 00:32:57.140
We're talking about green technology. We're looking

00:32:57.150 --> 00:33:01.299
at the future generations, including our own child

00:33:01.828 --> 00:33:06.789
And the issue right now is uh you know, concerning

00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:09.529
the fires, you know what is happening with our environment

00:33:09.539 --> 00:33:12.199
right now, there's a reason why it's getting colder

00:33:12.209 --> 00:33:14.279
and colder and the electric bills are going higher

00:33:14.289 --> 00:33:17.900
and higher. And also the other concern is that we're

00:33:17.910 --> 00:33:21.118
talking about solar panel, wind power, but we don't

00:33:21.130 --> 00:33:24.689
have the infrastructure to support those technologies

00:33:24.699 --> 00:33:27.799
even if we put them up right now, the grid cannot handle

00:33:27.809 --> 00:33:33.160
it. So for the sake of future generations and uh and

00:33:33.170 --> 00:33:36.818
also in the sake of bringing energy prices down, we're

00:33:36.828 --> 00:33:40.049
gonna have to invest in future technology. We're gonna

00:33:40.059 --> 00:33:45.140
have to invest in systems that can monitor these grids

00:33:45.858 --> 00:33:49.559
And this way we can also prevent future fires that

00:33:49.568 --> 00:33:53.219
you are already seeing all the consequences, including

00:33:53.229 --> 00:33:56.059
what is currently happening with our weather patterns

00:33:56.209 --> 00:33:59.789
and why it's so cold now in the middle of March. And

00:33:59.799 --> 00:34:03.390
I think um you know, by doing that, I think eventually

00:34:03.529 --> 00:34:08.360
we would reverse the cost of energy and also you know

00:34:08.369 --> 00:34:11.239
what's happening right now. So with fuel consumption

00:34:11.429 --> 00:34:16.369
So I think looking at in the longer term for you know

00:34:16.378 --> 00:34:19.340
us and also the future generations, I think this is

00:34:19.349 --> 00:34:23.349
a wise investment. Thank you very much.

00:34:23.349 --> 00:34:28.039
Thank you operator. Next speaker.

00:34:28.039 --> 00:34:31.079
Our next caller is Emily Bell from Long Beach. You

00:34:31.090 --> 00:34:33.750
may go ahead.

00:34:33.750 --> 00:34:40.860
Hi uh This is Emily Bell, just Emilybell. Um I'm calling

00:34:40.869 --> 00:34:45.159
cause I'm concerned about the rate increase. Um, like

00:34:45.168 --> 00:34:48.619
many people on this call have said the cost of everything

00:34:48.628 --> 00:34:54.918
gas, um, is being alive, food is going up and up and

00:34:54.929 --> 00:34:57.699
we're all just being squeezed dry. And the fact that

00:34:57.708 --> 00:35:02.898
this private company that none of us can get out of

00:35:03.219 --> 00:35:08.898
having to pay is able to raise the rate every year

00:35:08.909 --> 00:35:10.918
to get more and more money from us and we can't do

00:35:10.929 --> 00:35:14.659
anything about it and we have no more money to give

00:35:14.668 --> 00:35:19.070
and there has to be a better way for them to be

00:35:19.539 --> 00:35:23.550
increasing their revenues to do these supposed projects

00:35:23.559 --> 00:35:28.820
that they want to do. Um So yes, hopefully you will

00:35:28.829 --> 00:35:32.958
reject their proposal. Thank you. Thank you, MS Bell

00:35:33.530 --> 00:35:37.059
operator. Next speaker,

00:35:37.059 --> 00:35:42.628
our next caller is Karen Tilt. You may go ahead.

00:35:42.628 --> 00:35:48.389
Hi. My name is Karen. Karen til Quist T as in Tom

00:35:48.688 --> 00:35:56.079
Illquist and I live in Palmdale, California where it

00:35:56.090 --> 00:36:00.800
gets pretty hot in the summer. My bill right now on

00:36:00.809 --> 00:36:05.820
the level payment plan is about $347 a month. When

00:36:05.829 --> 00:36:11.320
I first moved into this house, it was 270. I pay for

00:36:11.329 --> 00:36:15.369
11 months, the 270 on the 12th month I would pay up

00:36:15.378 --> 00:36:18.628
if I owed, I never owed, they used to owe me the

00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:23.168
last two years. They've increased my rate to that 347

00:36:23.179 --> 00:36:28.619
and I owe on the 12th month, about $400. I'm 68 years

00:36:28.628 --> 00:36:31.079
old and I'm starting to wonder like, how am I going

00:36:31.090 --> 00:36:34.659
to afford electricity? When my husband and I both quit

00:36:34.668 --> 00:36:38.099
working right now? It doesn't seem like we can quit

00:36:38.110 --> 00:36:42.199
working. I have reduced the use of my electricity.

00:36:42.208 --> 00:36:47.019
I'm on the time of use for the charges. Most of my

00:36:47.030 --> 00:36:51.489
stuff I run during the lowest cost and yet my bill

00:36:51.500 --> 00:36:55.260
is still goes up every single month is showing that

00:36:55.269 --> 00:36:59.000
I've used less than I did last year and the year before

00:36:59.010 --> 00:37:02.519
But yet my bill is big and I just think it's going

00:37:02.530 --> 00:37:05.648
to be getting ridiculous. Like how do people afford

00:37:05.659 --> 00:37:10.559
to live? You've got to cool your house. I keep my house

00:37:10.570 --> 00:37:14.300
at 78 during the summer. That's not very, I mean, that's

00:37:14.309 --> 00:37:17.530
what they're saying to do 78. So it's not like I'm

00:37:17.539 --> 00:37:22.070
keeping it at 60 to be cool. But yet my bill is

00:37:22.079 --> 00:37:26.610
still that high. I'm gonna be going sore as soon as

00:37:26.619 --> 00:37:29.340
I can get that. The rest of it done. I am going

00:37:29.349 --> 00:37:31.489
to be on the solar just so that I can get away

00:37:31.500 --> 00:37:33.969
from this because I'm starting to think how can I afford

00:37:33.978 --> 00:37:37.699
to live once we are retired? I've had people say you'll

00:37:37.708 --> 00:37:39.699
never get your money back from that solar. But I'm

00:37:39.708 --> 00:37:42.539
just thinking I have to be able to afford to have electricity

00:37:42.909 --> 00:37:45.610
and it's a shame because it shouldn't be like that

00:37:46.090 --> 00:37:48.760
That's all I have to say.

00:37:48.760 --> 00:37:51.059
Thank you, Miss Tillis. We, we appreciate your comments

00:37:51.070 --> 00:37:55.300
today. Operator, next speaker,

00:37:55.300 --> 00:37:58.469
our next caller is Larry Iron. You may go ahead. Your

00:37:58.478 --> 00:38:00.679
line is open.

00:38:00.679 --> 00:38:09.260
Larry Irian, Larryirion from Laguna Woods, California

00:38:10.148 --> 00:38:14.289
I have been trying to get in touch with Edison for

00:38:14.300 --> 00:38:20.168
weeks. The lines are completely busy all of the time

00:38:20.179 --> 00:38:23.648
and they want to put you on hold for 60 to 90

00:38:23.659 --> 00:38:27.849
minutes. Something has to be done about the communication

00:38:28.000 --> 00:38:33.000
with the Edison company. I tried to get a hold, I tried

00:38:33.010 --> 00:38:37.840
to apply for the care program since my wife and I are

00:38:37.849 --> 00:38:42.760
both retired. There is no way that we can find any

00:38:42.769 --> 00:38:48.059
criteria that would tell me what the criteria are for

00:38:48.119 --> 00:38:54.699
being eligible for care. And in addition to that the

00:38:54.708 --> 00:38:58.840
care program, I finally got a hold of somebody that

00:38:58.849 --> 00:39:03.070
was able to take the application information and I

00:39:03.079 --> 00:39:06.079
have yet to hear anything back about what it approved

00:39:06.090 --> 00:39:10.659
whether it is approved or not. So this means that the

00:39:10.668 --> 00:39:16.219
it department of Edison has made the website completely

00:39:17.809 --> 00:39:22.378
impossible to navigate for older people. I happen to

00:39:22.389 --> 00:39:27.780
be 92 and I have difficulty with technology anyway

00:39:28.289 --> 00:39:34.840
but making that website impossible to navigate, you

00:39:34.849 --> 00:39:38.159
can't get anything done with Henderson. As far as the

00:39:38.168 --> 00:39:41.958
rate increases. It has hit me as well as these other

00:39:41.969 --> 00:39:45.949
people that have been calling our bill in January.

00:39:45.958 --> 00:39:53.208
Of this year over January of 19 2023 has more than

00:39:53.219 --> 00:39:58.699
doubled and this is not why. So I would like to have

00:39:58.708 --> 00:40:02.119
something done about the rates. And also I would like

00:40:02.128 --> 00:40:06.188
to have somebody contact me as to the criteria for

00:40:06.199 --> 00:40:11.500
the care program. Thank you. Thank you, Mr Ian. Um

00:40:11.510 --> 00:40:14.340
I mentioned at the beginning, we do have a couple of

00:40:14.349 --> 00:40:16.958
uh customer representatives from Southern California

00:40:16.969 --> 00:40:20.228
Edison available today. Um I suggest you might want

00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:29.148
to follow up with Carrie Gardner. Her number is 9097732269

00:40:31.800 --> 00:40:35.019
Hopefully that will help. Please say again please.

00:40:35.590 --> 00:40:45.289
The number 909773 2269.

00:40:45.289 --> 00:40:51.639
Thank you, Kerry Cracked. Thank you. Thank you operator

00:40:51.648 --> 00:40:53.898
Next speaker.

00:40:53.898 --> 00:40:57.769
Our next caller is Nari Bagdasarian with the San Gabriel

00:40:57.780 --> 00:41:02.139
Valley Economic Partnership. You may go ahead. Hi,

00:41:02.148 --> 00:41:10.199
my name is Nari that's spelled Nayir. I last name Bagdasarian

00:41:10.208 --> 00:41:22.539
Baghdassar Ian with the San Gabriel Valley Economic

00:41:22.550 --> 00:41:26.329
Partnership. We represent a diverse group of regional

00:41:26.340 --> 00:41:30.699
stakeholders throughout the 31 San Gabriel Valley cities

00:41:30.840 --> 00:41:35.179
and I'm here to express that we understand the need

00:41:35.188 --> 00:41:38.750
for Socal Edison's request to meet the growing needs

00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:43.699
of customers and the state's climate and energy mandates

00:41:43.760 --> 00:41:49.289
Thank you so much. Thank you operator. Next speaker

00:41:51.269 --> 00:41:55.010
Our next caller is Linda o'brien. You may go ahead

00:41:56.110 --> 00:42:03.010
Hi, this is Linda o'brien. That's Obrien from Palmdale

00:42:03.019 --> 00:42:08.579
California. Um I certainly agree with uh uh you know

00:42:08.699 --> 00:42:13.878
Michael and Joanne and William Williams in their statistics

00:42:14.289 --> 00:42:17.208
Uh But also I have found a statistic that indicated

00:42:17.219 --> 00:42:19.409
that

00:42:19.409 --> 00:42:23.340
electric rates have in California in California where

00:42:23.349 --> 00:42:28.659
they are emphasizing solar and wind power. In California

00:42:29.409 --> 00:42:36.860
electric rates have gone up 54% since 2018. CPUC should

00:42:36.869 --> 00:42:41.829
return to regulated utilities. And as so many people

00:42:41.840 --> 00:42:44.708
have said, seniors have such a difficult time keeping

00:42:44.719 --> 00:42:47.590
up with these rate increases, which, you know, I get

00:42:47.599 --> 00:42:50.260
a notice almost every three months. We're requesting

00:42:50.269 --> 00:42:53.340
a rate increase. We're requesting a rate increase.

00:42:53.949 --> 00:42:59.909
I mean, who, who does that? And, ah, you know, when

00:42:59.918 --> 00:43:03.829
when a call for reinvesting your profits back into

00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:06.389
your business to take care of those things that you

00:43:06.398 --> 00:43:09.309
need to take care of for your infrastructure does not

00:43:09.320 --> 00:43:12.699
include giving bonuses and perks and $20 million a

00:43:12.708 --> 00:43:19.019
year salary to administrators. And that's about all

00:43:19.030 --> 00:43:21.829
I have to say for now in agreement with the majority

00:43:21.840 --> 00:43:28.019
of people who say no, no more. Cut it down 3% a

00:43:28.030 --> 00:43:33.840
year. What's the biggest raise you ever got? 6%

00:43:33.840 --> 00:43:39.760
anyway? Thank you. Thank you, Miss o'brien operator

00:43:39.769 --> 00:43:42.438
Next speaker,

00:43:42.438 --> 00:43:45.409
our next caller is Sarah Harris. You may go ahead.

00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:55.250
Yes. Hello. This is Sarah Harris. Sarahharris. I'm

00:43:55.260 --> 00:43:59.019
calling, um, representing the Black Business Association

00:43:59.389 --> 00:44:03.128
Um, we are the oldest active ethnic business Support

00:44:03.139 --> 00:44:06.500
organization in the State of California and we're here

00:44:06.510 --> 00:44:13.659
to say that as a um, see as a powering of the

00:44:13.668 --> 00:44:19.059
regional economy. Um and they safely deliver reliable

00:44:19.079 --> 00:44:23.780
and increasingly clean energy um uh electricity. We

00:44:23.789 --> 00:44:28.978
understand that investment um to our power grid and

00:44:28.989 --> 00:44:33.320
infrastructure and, and also the increasing the um

00:44:33.329 --> 00:44:38.579
climate related um occurrences that are encumbering

00:44:38.610 --> 00:44:42.239
us. We understand that the investment is needed and

00:44:42.250 --> 00:44:46.349
also to, to support with our economy and for our small

00:44:46.360 --> 00:44:50.469
businesses, we want to make sure that um they have

00:44:50.478 --> 00:44:53.829
what they need to support for their business and the

00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:59.128
economy

00:44:59.128 --> 00:45:03.989
hard fought. And, um, in the end, we believe that it

00:45:04.000 --> 00:45:06.909
will pay out for the better for all. And thank you

00:45:06.918 --> 00:45:09.228
so much. So, we're calling and support. Thank you.

00:45:10.590 --> 00:45:15.458
Thank you, Miss Harris operator. Next speaker,

00:45:15.458 --> 00:45:18.590
our next caller is Marlene Eccles. You may go ahead

00:45:19.668 --> 00:45:26.699
Oh, hi. This is Marlene Ma Rlene, uh, Eck Les. And

00:45:26.708 --> 00:45:29.530
uh, I just wanted to say that, um, I agree with the

00:45:29.539 --> 00:45:32.409
majority of people that have called that I am very

00:45:32.418 --> 00:45:37.320
very much against, uh, these really awful rate increases

00:45:37.329 --> 00:45:43.369
Uh, I added it up and just between, um, 20 between

00:45:43.378 --> 00:45:50.139
23 and no, between 24 and 25 it would be 22% 24

00:45:50.148 --> 00:45:55.353
and 10% 25. That's 32 percent just in two years and

00:45:55.364 --> 00:45:59.344
then another 18% over the next three years. That's

00:45:59.353 --> 00:46:06.885
a total of 50% rate increase over five years. That's

00:46:06.894 --> 00:46:12.425
huge and totally, totally unacceptable. Um, for all

00:46:12.434 --> 00:46:16.144
the reasons that most of the people have, have stated

00:46:16.155 --> 00:46:20.184
Also, I wanted to add one other thing, you know, um

00:46:20.610 --> 00:46:26.449
it said in California that they want us to use more

00:46:26.458 --> 00:46:32.840
electricity and way less gas and they want us to use

00:46:32.849 --> 00:46:38.099
electric cars. Well, those electric cars have to be

00:46:38.110 --> 00:46:42.789
charged. And so when you charge the electric cars by

00:46:42.800 --> 00:46:46.199
raising the rate on electricity, you're going to make

00:46:46.208 --> 00:46:49.945
the rates sky high for electric cars, which my husband

00:46:49.954 --> 00:46:53.655
and I don't understand because if they want us to use

00:46:53.833 --> 00:46:59.304
electric cars, why are they raising the rates on what

00:46:59.313 --> 00:47:05.273
it will take to use those cars? So I, so I ah

00:47:06.599 --> 00:47:12.369
I also feel that the um uh southern California Edison

00:47:12.628 --> 00:47:16.708
should not be able to just willy nilly raise their

00:47:16.719 --> 00:47:20.978
rates and that the CEO S uh and other people that are

00:47:20.989 --> 00:47:24.869
making humongous salaries should not be getting those

00:47:24.878 --> 00:47:30.250
kinds of salaries and that the um CPUC should not allow

00:47:30.260 --> 00:47:34.188
them to have this kind of rate increase. I could see

00:47:34.199 --> 00:47:39.398
maybe one or 2% and that's it. Ok. Thank you very much

00:47:40.530 --> 00:47:43.500
Thank you for your comments. Today, operator, next

00:47:43.510 --> 00:47:46.159
speaker,

00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:52.510
our next color is Gina Bedini. You may go ahead.

00:47:52.510 --> 00:47:58.878
Hello, my name is Gina Dominguez. All I really wanted

00:47:58.889 --> 00:48:02.539
to add mostly everybody is against this rate that I've

00:48:02.550 --> 00:48:10.679
been listening to except for one doctor and a 40% 40.6%

00:48:10.688 --> 00:48:15.500
is what I figured you're gonna go up by 2028. It's

00:48:15.510 --> 00:48:19.070
a shame that our Medicare can't go up that much or

00:48:19.079 --> 00:48:24.039
social security. So please, I hope with all these calls

00:48:24.050 --> 00:48:26.429
that everybody want patience and wait because I've

00:48:26.438 --> 00:48:29.478
been like, I don't know, 30 minutes, 45 minutes, but

00:48:29.489 --> 00:48:34.800
it will be worth it if this rate increase is not voted

00:48:34.809 --> 00:48:41.688
on if it is put down. Thank you.

00:48:41.688 --> 00:48:45.760
Thank you operator. Next caller,

00:48:45.760 --> 00:48:49.469
our next caller is Keith Holloman. You may go ahead

00:48:50.719 --> 00:48:55.378
Well, thank you for taking the call. Uh Keith Holleman

00:48:55.389 --> 00:49:02.030
Holle Ma N and I'm in agreement with the majority of

00:49:02.039 --> 00:49:07.809
the callers uh rejecting a need for such a massive

00:49:07.820 --> 00:49:13.728
rate increase. Uh, a reasonable rate is very understandable

00:49:13.739 --> 00:49:18.300
for future investments. But the extensive rate that

00:49:18.978 --> 00:49:23.239
uh we're looking at, I think goes well beyond the uh

00:49:23.579 --> 00:49:29.438
needs of the consumers. Uh I do not believe we as consumers

00:49:29.449 --> 00:49:35.360
should basically pay for the, uh maybe inefficiencies

00:49:35.369 --> 00:49:40.418
of the business being run. Uh Maybe the, uh instead

00:49:40.429 --> 00:49:44.619
of looking at rate increases, uh, the commission should

00:49:44.628 --> 00:49:48.809
be able to mandate or S ce should be able to look

00:49:48.820 --> 00:49:53.079
at their expenditures if they can reduce their expenses

00:49:53.438 --> 00:49:56.958
Uh which I'm sure there's a lot of waste in uh S

00:49:56.969 --> 00:49:59.978
ce uh, there would be a viable

00:49:59.987 --> 00:50:04.607
Means of increasing uh the rates at a reasonable level

00:50:05.088 --> 00:50:09.167
So I'm totally against uh the rate increase that's

00:50:09.176 --> 00:50:14.077
proposed, I would not be against a reasonable rate

00:50:14.577 --> 00:50:18.206
but I don't think that's in the future plan. So I really

00:50:18.217 --> 00:50:22.648
hope the commission takes a look at all of the comments

00:50:22.657 --> 00:50:26.107
that are being made. Uh I'm hearing a lot of senior

00:50:26.116 --> 00:50:30.997
citizens and that really needs to be uh focused in

00:50:31.008 --> 00:50:33.678
that most senior citizens are not living off their

00:50:33.687 --> 00:50:36.617
real estate investment, they're living off their month

00:50:36.627 --> 00:50:41.026
to month, uh Social security payments. Uh But again

00:50:41.218 --> 00:50:43.858
I just think that there's a better way for businesses

00:50:43.867 --> 00:50:48.407
to be run if S ce began to look at their expenses

00:50:48.718 --> 00:50:54.076
more so than just generate revenues. Uh the salaries

00:50:54.087 --> 00:50:58.507
of $20 million for the head of the, of the organization

00:50:58.697 --> 00:51:02.576
the rate of return that the shareholders are obtaining

00:51:02.788 --> 00:51:07.947
that's all understandable, but excessive rates should

00:51:07.958 --> 00:51:12.158
not be the burden of the consumers, uh which we are

00:51:12.587 --> 00:51:17.357
and I hope the commissioner will reject the rate increase

00:51:17.366 --> 00:51:22.146
in totality if not reduce the proposed rate increase

00:51:22.687 --> 00:51:26.988
uh to a much more reasonable level. Thank you for your

00:51:26.997 --> 00:51:30.616
uh opportunity to speak and hopefully we won't get

00:51:30.628 --> 00:51:35.878
this rate increase in 2025. Thank you. Thank you for

00:51:35.887 --> 00:51:40.738
your comments today, operator. Next speaker,

00:51:40.738 --> 00:51:44.228
our next caller is Valerie Galion. You may go ahead

00:51:45.607 --> 00:51:51.967
Hi, my name is Zia Gazal. First name Zarouh. I last

00:51:51.978 --> 00:51:57.717
name Gezalyan. Um I'm calling actually on behalf of

00:51:57.728 --> 00:52:01.566
my father-in-law. He is an 86 year old, uh, you know

00:52:01.577 --> 00:52:06.408
social security income, receiving a man living alone

00:52:06.417 --> 00:52:10.596
um, lost his wife. So he doesn't really cook. He doesn't

00:52:10.907 --> 00:52:15.357
you know, uh, use any ac, the only thing he does use

00:52:15.367 --> 00:52:18.647
is the, you know, heater during these cold seasons

00:52:18.846 --> 00:52:23.857
and being on his own, he pays over $200. His last bill

00:52:23.867 --> 00:52:28.506
was about $200 this month. It's ridiculous. You know

00:52:28.516 --> 00:52:33.536
he, he lives off of his own income and pays his rent

00:52:33.547 --> 00:52:36.797
goes, gets his food, you know, a little bit of stuff

00:52:36.808 --> 00:52:41.707
for himself. And, um, beyond that, it's, uh, uh, living

00:52:41.718 --> 00:52:44.486
for him, it's gonna be even more difficult if this

00:52:44.498 --> 00:52:49.058
increase does happen. Um, I agree with all those who

00:52:49.066 --> 00:52:52.927
are calling, I feel for them. This is ridiculous when

00:52:52.938 --> 00:52:57.286
you're, you know, living on a fixed income and, uh

00:52:57.447 --> 00:53:02.157
you know, need to survive basically. Um, I don't know

00:53:02.167 --> 00:53:07.607
how his bill could be so outrageously high when literally

00:53:07.617 --> 00:53:10.236
doesn't even, you know, use anything but the heater

00:53:10.248 --> 00:53:15.236
during the evenings. So, um, I pray that something

00:53:15.248 --> 00:53:20.117
gets done in regards to this for those who are really

00:53:20.127 --> 00:53:25.278
struggling as it is to survive. And like someone said

00:53:25.286 --> 00:53:28.308
from the callers, people are literally leaving California

00:53:28.316 --> 00:53:33.207
because of the situation, it's uh become really difficult

00:53:33.218 --> 00:53:37.558
to keep up. And at 86 years old for a man to

00:53:37.566 --> 00:53:40.756
pick up and move somewhere away from his family is

00:53:40.766 --> 00:53:43.558
really, really not the, the option that we're looking

00:53:43.566 --> 00:53:47.637
for. So please uh take into consideration all these

00:53:47.647 --> 00:53:50.047
people who have lived here who paid their taxes, who've

00:53:50.058 --> 00:53:54.917
given all they've got to the state and shouldn't be

00:53:54.927 --> 00:53:58.986
put in this situation cornered and, uh, what to choose

00:53:58.998 --> 00:54:02.968
what, how to live and how to pay their bills, uh, every

00:54:02.978 --> 00:54:05.816
single month. So those months, those days come really

00:54:05.827 --> 00:54:08.457
quickly. Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate

00:54:08.468 --> 00:54:12.236
you. Thank you, Miss Gil. I appreciate your comments

00:54:12.248 --> 00:54:16.578
today. Operator, next speaker.

00:54:16.578 --> 00:54:19.478
Our next caller is Marilyn Allen. You may go ahead

00:54:20.747 --> 00:54:29.047
Hi, this is Marilyn Allen. Ma Rilyn, last name A Llen

00:54:29.728 --> 00:54:33.398
I basically agree with the majority of the people,

00:54:33.406 --> 00:54:36.958
but I wanted to add one thing. I looked up on the

00:54:36.966 --> 00:54:40.388
internet. What Steven Powell, who is the president

00:54:40.398 --> 00:54:45.478
and CEO of Southern California? Edison. He's making

00:54:45.487 --> 00:54:52.867
2 million $791 a year. I would assume that's a year

00:54:53.807 --> 00:55:03.997
Ah, and the net profit for 2022 was $954 million with

00:55:04.006 --> 00:55:08.047
that, with those kind of figures. It's telling me that

00:55:08.057 --> 00:55:11.648
Southern California is very top heavy. I know it's

00:55:11.656 --> 00:55:17.497
investor owned, but that's no reason to gouge the public

00:55:17.506 --> 00:55:21.898
They can give a little, they, I think the public has

00:55:21.906 --> 00:55:26.268
given more than a little when I keep my home at 80

00:55:26.276 --> 00:55:32.117
degrees in the summer. 68 in the winter because I can't

00:55:32.127 --> 00:55:37.497
afford to pay any more is absolutely nonsense. Since

00:55:37.506 --> 00:55:42.377
I moved into this house, the utilities have increased

00:55:42.388 --> 00:55:47.478
doubled. This is something's got to give people have

00:55:47.487 --> 00:55:51.107
got to live, they've got to pay all these other bills

00:55:51.117 --> 00:55:56.417
How much can you squeeze this any further?

00:55:56.417 --> 00:55:59.247
Thank you.

00:55:59.247 --> 00:56:05.458
Thank you, MS Allen operator. Next speaker,

00:56:05.458 --> 00:56:08.836
our next caller is Gregory Prinz. You may go ahead

00:56:10.578 --> 00:56:13.768
Good afternoon commissioner. My name is Gregory Prinz

00:56:14.148 --> 00:56:19.667
Last name is spelled Pr Inc L er, I live in Garden

00:56:19.677 --> 00:56:26.117
Grove, California being one of those seniors. I understand

00:56:26.127 --> 00:56:31.268
what it's like to pinch pennies every year since the

00:56:31.276 --> 00:56:37.756
eighties, every year, we have gotten an increase

00:56:37.756 --> 00:56:40.867
for electricity and with that increase for electricity

00:56:40.877 --> 00:56:44.066
comes an increase for the gas because they piggy bank

00:56:44.078 --> 00:56:47.388
off each other. They're saying we need to watch our

00:56:47.398 --> 00:56:52.208
electricity because of the grid. Why didn't they watch

00:56:52.347 --> 00:56:55.698
building those electric chargers for the electric cars

00:56:55.917 --> 00:57:01.828
every time they do an infrastructure, um, solar wind

00:57:01.836 --> 00:57:05.958
power. We don't see, we don't seem to reap the rewards

00:57:05.966 --> 00:57:10.138
as far as the customer, but the minute they put those

00:57:10.148 --> 00:57:13.857
electric chargers, refueling stations in for the electric

00:57:13.867 --> 00:57:20.607
cars, our money goes right out the window and it, that's

00:57:20.617 --> 00:57:25.127
kind of nasty because we're paying for them. Why should

00:57:25.138 --> 00:57:28.367
we have to increase those electric chargers? They want

00:57:28.377 --> 00:57:32.177
to go and get an electric car? That's great. But just

00:57:32.187 --> 00:57:35.347
like gasoline, we want to power our gasoline cars.

00:57:36.006 --> 00:57:38.948
We're gonna have to pay for that. But no, they, they

00:57:38.958 --> 00:57:42.948
can't get away with this increasement increasing of

00:57:42.958 --> 00:57:46.586
um, Edison for what reason to pay off the lawsuits

00:57:46.597 --> 00:57:51.148
from the fire to pay off their, their pay because they

00:57:51.156 --> 00:57:53.547
decide they're going to sit on their behind and they're

00:57:53.557 --> 00:57:57.228
worth $2 million a year. That's not fair. I thank you

00:57:57.237 --> 00:58:01.328
for your time and I hope this doesn't go through.

00:58:01.328 --> 00:58:05.256
Thank you, Mr Prinz Operator. Next caller, please.

00:58:10.237 --> 00:58:14.877
My next caller is as may you may go ahead. Uh My

00:58:14.888 --> 00:58:21.656
name is Francoise. May Francoise is my first name Francoise

00:58:22.037 --> 00:58:25.857
I'm calling from Palm Springs, California. And as you

00:58:25.867 --> 00:58:30.478
know, Palm Springs is the hottest part of California

00:58:30.487 --> 00:58:35.237
and the hottest part of the country last summer, my

00:58:35.247 --> 00:58:39.818
bills, even though I consumed the least electricity

00:58:39.827 --> 00:58:46.068
in four years. My bill was practically double and I'm

00:58:46.077 --> 00:58:51.906
a low income senior. I'm 75 years old. I am handicapped

00:58:51.918 --> 00:58:57.217
not disabled but handicapped with arthritis and I had

00:58:57.228 --> 00:59:01.918
both hip replaced and now I'm limping. I am completely

00:59:01.928 --> 00:59:07.087
alone. No family member, only my neighbors to check

00:59:07.097 --> 00:59:10.247
on me once in a while to see if I'm still alive

00:59:10.627 --> 00:59:14.857
Last summer was so difficult in Palm Springs, we had

00:59:14.867 --> 00:59:19.646
a temperature of 120 degrees, three weeks in a row

00:59:19.656 --> 00:59:23.146
I totally understand. That's not the thought of Southern

00:59:23.156 --> 00:59:29.068
California Edison. But what I don't understand is that

00:59:29.077 --> 00:59:34.146
Imperial County, which is right next. We are part of

00:59:34.386 --> 00:59:40.087
this is Riverside County, Palm Springs, Imperial County

00:59:40.097 --> 00:59:45.087
which is right east of us. They do not have Southern

00:59:45.097 --> 00:59:50.007
California Edison. They have Imperial Service. They

00:59:50.016 --> 00:59:55.087
pay a third of what we pay in Palm Springs for our

00:59:55.097 --> 00:59:58.896
electricity. They pay a third there. I know it because

00:59:58.906 --> 01:00:02.957
I was still working part time. Even though I'm old

01:00:02.967 --> 01:00:06.257
and disabled and handicapped. I'm sorry, not disabled

01:00:06.487 --> 01:00:13.757
I was working at Macy's. My coworkers live in the eastern

01:00:13.766 --> 01:00:20.857
valley and they had in the summer, no bills of $70

01:00:20.867 --> 01:00:27.507
while I was paying 350. And my neighbors were having

01:00:27.516 --> 01:00:33.747
bills of $850 a month

01:00:33.747 --> 01:00:39.146
at a certain point. I called the hotline prevention

01:00:39.156 --> 01:00:42.357
suicide prevention because I was so depressed. I wanted

01:00:42.367 --> 01:00:45.377
to end it all.

01:00:45.377 --> 01:00:51.357
I cannot afford the prices increase. I really asked

01:00:51.367 --> 01:00:55.757
the commissioner, please relay the problem that we

01:00:55.766 --> 01:01:02.396
face as seniors in the climate change. You cannot put

01:01:02.406 --> 01:01:05.837
that on us. We do not have the resources to pay for

01:01:05.847 --> 01:01:07.757
it.

01:01:07.757 --> 01:01:10.786
Thank you.

01:01:10.786 --> 01:01:15.367
Thank you, MS May m may 1 follow up question? Have

01:01:15.377 --> 01:01:19.127
you ever attempted to see if you qualify for the California

01:01:19.136 --> 01:01:21.168
You have?

01:01:21.168 --> 01:01:24.367
Yes, you do. Ok. You receive the care even with the

01:01:24.377 --> 01:01:29.178
care discount and the fact that I reduce my monthly

01:01:29.188 --> 01:01:35.668
usage of electricity to more than a quarter. I reduced

01:01:35.678 --> 01:01:39.298
it. I practically don't use anything during the summer

01:01:39.308 --> 01:01:45.016
when it was 120 outside. I put the thermostat at 90

01:01:45.857 --> 01:01:50.007
and I am not a homeowner. I am renting from somebody

01:01:50.016 --> 01:01:56.068
who lives in Burbank. I cannot change all the old appliances

01:01:56.077 --> 01:02:02.036
and everything. So I am absolutely, I was suicidal

01:02:02.048 --> 01:02:06.087
because I could not pay my bills anymore. That's something

01:02:06.097 --> 01:02:10.947
that has to be addressed. You cannot have this increase

01:02:11.347 --> 01:02:17.237
when people cannot afford it.

01:02:17.237 --> 01:02:22.266
That is not fair. I totally agree with all the other

01:02:22.367 --> 01:02:27.207
callers who said no, we cannot have another increase

01:02:27.617 --> 01:02:33.276
in the last three years. The increase went over 40%

01:02:33.678 --> 01:02:38.558
in your rates have changed 40% up in the last four

01:02:38.568 --> 01:02:42.377
years.

01:02:42.377 --> 01:02:46.087
Thank you. You're welcome. And thank you to having

01:02:46.097 --> 01:02:49.636
this event today because it's really important that

01:02:49.646 --> 01:02:53.127
you listen to us. The other thing, I agree as an old

01:02:53.136 --> 01:02:56.357
person, I don't have access to the internet except

01:02:56.367 --> 01:02:59.497
on my phone and I can see on my phone, I don't

01:02:59.507 --> 01:03:03.737
have a computer. You can't communicate with Southern

01:03:03.747 --> 01:03:06.507
California Edison. It's impossible. That's another

01:03:06.516 --> 01:03:11.507
thing, Imperial, which is a different electric agency

01:03:12.327 --> 01:03:15.877
They operate like in the old days, you can talk to

01:03:15.886 --> 01:03:20.347
them. I have the name of different people who are living

01:03:20.357 --> 01:03:24.577
with Imperial and they told me you have to get out

01:03:24.587 --> 01:03:27.957
of Palm Springs, you get out of Southern California

01:03:27.967 --> 01:03:30.228
Edison

01:03:30.228 --> 01:03:34.478
and I can't do it because I cannot move.

01:03:34.478 --> 01:03:37.016
Thank you. We greatly appreciate your comments today

01:03:37.228 --> 01:03:40.097
Yeah, this is Palm Springs. That's the hottest part

01:03:40.107 --> 01:03:45.568
of the country. Thank you. Thank you operator. Next

01:03:45.577 --> 01:03:50.507
caller, our next caller is Manuel Meader. You may go

01:03:50.516 --> 01:03:58.457
ahead

01:03:58.457 --> 01:04:01.298
again, Ma Ma Ma, we are not able to hear you. Please

01:04:01.308 --> 01:04:10.906
check your mute button.

01:04:10.906 --> 01:04:14.487
Thank you, Mr Maser. If you're still having trouble

01:04:14.497 --> 01:04:19.886
I suggest hang up and try calling again.

01:04:19.886 --> 01:04:23.697
Ok, thank you operator. Next speaker. Thank you. Our

01:04:23.707 --> 01:04:28.798
next caller is Levy Brown. You may go ahead. Yes. Hello

01:04:29.536 --> 01:04:36.776
My concerns are numerous. Uh those for seniors, disabled

01:04:36.786 --> 01:04:42.357
seniors being on fixed incomes. We're having to budget

01:04:42.808 --> 01:04:46.886
but yet as someone said, and I looked up my own self

01:04:46.896 --> 01:04:57.997
that people are being paid 73,000 $300,000 of for executives

01:04:58.127 --> 01:05:03.987
plus bonuses, millions of dollars for the CEO plus

01:05:03.997 --> 01:05:10.877
bonuses with having social security as our own income

01:05:11.207 --> 01:05:16.276
We're having to budget all of our bills with what money

01:05:16.286 --> 01:05:23.857
we do get 3% increase and yet the electric companies

01:05:23.867 --> 01:05:27.918
asking for a higher increase than what we even get

01:05:27.928 --> 01:05:35.798
per year, even with 8% that we got not long ago. That's

01:05:35.808 --> 01:05:40.377
still, you know what they're asking for is even more

01:05:40.386 --> 01:05:45.117
than what we would be getting. I know of people that

01:05:45.127 --> 01:05:51.418
have a house and they keep their utilities, their electricity

01:05:52.308 --> 01:05:57.906
at a regular rate at degrees and they're paying 400

01:05:57.918 --> 01:06:02.587
plus per month. We have temperatures up in the Lancaster

01:06:02.776 --> 01:06:07.036
Palmdale area. But in the summer they're going up to

01:06:07.068 --> 01:06:12.367
100 15 degrees and we get no compensation that we're

01:06:12.377 --> 01:06:17.877
having to turn our air up higher to compensate for

01:06:17.886 --> 01:06:22.438
the heat. We get freezing cold temperatures in the

01:06:22.447 --> 01:06:26.036
winter and we have to turn up our heat and some of

01:06:26.048 --> 01:06:30.636
our heaters are electric switched and you know, where

01:06:30.646 --> 01:06:34.276
we live, we cannot help it because some of us living

01:06:34.286 --> 01:06:39.367
in apartments, that's what they have provided. But

01:06:39.377 --> 01:06:44.558
you know, they're wanting to get more money. How about

01:06:44.568 --> 01:06:48.497
they live on a budget? How about they decrease all

01:06:48.507 --> 01:06:53.688
of these bonuses? How about they, when they have their

01:06:53.697 --> 01:06:58.607
planned outages for repairs that they do the work?

01:06:58.617 --> 01:07:02.107
Right. So that they don't have to keep coming back

01:07:02.117 --> 01:07:07.728
monthly to keep doing the same repairs, replacing the

01:07:07.737 --> 01:07:12.046
same equipment or saying, oh, we have to do this to

01:07:12.056 --> 01:07:16.007
it. We have to do that to it. Why didn't they get

01:07:16.017 --> 01:07:20.546
the repair totally fixed at the time when they had

01:07:20.556 --> 01:07:26.987
it? Many people with being on fixed incomes and needing

01:07:26.997 --> 01:07:30.836
to have their utilities. Be some being on the care

01:07:30.846 --> 01:07:34.767
program, some being on the medical baseline, some of

01:07:34.777 --> 01:07:40.898
us are medically in need of having these utilities

01:07:41.546 --> 01:07:46.138
And you know, I'm one of those I have a medical need

01:07:46.148 --> 01:07:52.368
for it, but my, my income, it's such that if they keep

01:07:52.378 --> 01:07:57.447
having increases, increases, increases and here, you

01:07:57.457 --> 01:08:00.237
know, how am I supposed to pay for that? How am I

01:08:00.247 --> 01:08:02.667
supposed to pay for food? How am I supposed to pay

01:08:02.677 --> 01:08:06.408
for where I live? How am I supposed to, you know, pay

01:08:06.417 --> 01:08:10.447
for any other bills that I have? And I have minimal

01:08:10.457 --> 01:08:17.908
bills as it is for winter. I'm having $53 plus for

01:08:17.917 --> 01:08:23.747
utilities, but I not using hardly anything as far as

01:08:23.757 --> 01:08:29.228
utilities go. So they need to be on a budget. I see

01:08:29.237 --> 01:08:32.767
You know, and I'm not trying to take away from people

01:08:32.777 --> 01:08:36.947
having a living wage, but $20 an hour and me being

01:08:36.957 --> 01:08:40.947
a senior, that's more than I ever got per hour. But

01:08:40.957 --> 01:08:47.757
the CEO S and their bonuses need to be cut off so

01:08:47.767 --> 01:08:51.517
that, you know, we're not paying for their bonuses

01:08:51.556 --> 01:08:56.296
in the electricity rates being increased. And how about

01:08:56.306 --> 01:09:01.478
having businesses bear the brunt of these increases

01:09:01.487 --> 01:09:05.978
instead of always the residential customers? Thank

01:09:05.987 --> 01:09:07.997
you, Miss Brown. You're well past the three minutes

01:09:08.007 --> 01:09:12.228
Could you, uh, try and wrap up your comments?

01:09:12.228 --> 01:09:17.987
It just needs to be not approved for these rate increases

01:09:17.997 --> 01:09:21.398
and they need to dial it back at Southern California

01:09:21.408 --> 01:09:24.287
Edison.

01:09:24.287 --> 01:09:29.118
Thank you very much operator. Next speaker.

01:09:29.118 --> 01:09:32.368
Our next caller is Mary Land camp. You may go ahead

01:09:40.596 --> 01:10:01.707
Ok, one moment please,

01:10:01.707 --> 01:10:06.296
operator, I'm not able to hear anything. Are you? I'm

01:10:06.306 --> 01:10:10.858
sorry. Do I have. Can you hear me now? Yes, thank you

01:10:11.467 --> 01:10:14.336
Ah, Mary Land kamp. Sorry, I didn't know how to connect

01:10:14.566 --> 01:10:19.207
Um, I, I love what everyone has to say and I concur

01:10:19.296 --> 01:10:22.608
with pretty much everyone that we do not need a rate

01:10:22.618 --> 01:10:28.228
increase. I again, am a senior student or not a student

01:10:28.296 --> 01:10:33.408
senior citizen in the Temecula area. And, um, the rates

01:10:33.503 --> 01:10:36.711
just keep going up and up and I've been trying to be

01:10:36.721 --> 01:10:40.023
very conservative on keeping my temperature in the

01:10:40.033 --> 01:10:43.753
summer, even at 80 degrees and in the winter at 60

01:10:43.763 --> 01:10:48.503
degrees and I still see an increase. And um, so I concur

01:10:48.513 --> 01:10:52.632
with a lot of people and their recent comments. Thank

01:10:52.642 --> 01:10:57.007
you for letting me share my thoughts. Thank you very

01:10:57.017 --> 01:11:00.517
much for your comments today. A reminder when you first

01:11:00.527 --> 01:11:03.728
joined, please spell your name and indicate the city

01:11:03.737 --> 01:11:06.566
you are calling from operator. Next speaker, please

01:11:08.437 --> 01:11:11.687
Our next scholar is Gigi Jackson. You may go ahead

01:11:13.947 --> 01:11:20.167
Oh, hi. This is Gigi. Can you hear me? Yes. Ok. Um

01:11:20.177 --> 01:11:23.467
Thank you for taking this this taking this afternoon

01:11:23.478 --> 01:11:28.388
to listen to our concerns. Um I'm GD Jackson and I

01:11:28.398 --> 01:11:33.128
live in Orange County and I, I'm a retired educator

01:11:33.138 --> 01:11:37.846
and after retiring seven years ago, just as everyone

01:11:37.858 --> 01:11:40.717
has said, and I concur with everyone that have shared

01:11:40.728 --> 01:11:45.108
their concerns and their complaints, my electric bill

01:11:45.118 --> 01:11:49.427
has just doubled if not tripled in certain cases. And

01:11:49.437 --> 01:11:53.447
when you are living on a fixed income. It is, it's

01:11:53.927 --> 01:11:56.517
you have to literally pick and choose what you're gonna

01:11:56.527 --> 01:12:01.207
pay in order to make, make your bills and not fall

01:12:01.217 --> 01:12:07.217
too behind. Um I just feel that we cannot continue

01:12:07.228 --> 01:12:10.336
to move at this pace and some of the people have done

01:12:10.346 --> 01:12:13.398
their homework and found the salaries of some of the

01:12:13.728 --> 01:12:17.527
the CEO S and the other personnel that are working

01:12:17.537 --> 01:12:20.667
It's just not fair to put this burden on us and I

01:12:20.677 --> 01:12:24.138
came in a little late. But if I heard correctly, I

01:12:24.148 --> 01:12:27.556
heard that in 2025 our bill is going to go up over

01:12:27.566 --> 01:12:33.417
25%. That is just unreal. So I hope the comments that

01:12:33.427 --> 01:12:36.437
you're hearing today do not fall on deaf ears. I go

01:12:36.447 --> 01:12:40.066
to several of our city council meetings and we have

01:12:40.076 --> 01:12:43.967
a majority group that regardless of what the citizens

01:12:43.978 --> 01:12:47.457
are saying, even though almost everyone that goes to

01:12:47.467 --> 01:12:50.336
the podium is saying, don't do this, don't do this

01:12:50.346 --> 01:12:53.527
It's not good for our city. After all comments are

01:12:53.537 --> 01:12:56.917
made, it's like it fell on deaf ears and they vote

01:12:56.927 --> 01:12:59.858
the complete opposite. So I hope that the comments

01:12:59.868 --> 01:13:03.066
that are you're hearing today are not falling on deaf

01:13:03.076 --> 01:13:06.628
ears and you truly are listening to the concerns of

01:13:06.638 --> 01:13:10.417
everyone that has spoken this afternoon. Um It's a

01:13:10.427 --> 01:13:14.197
reality, we cannot continue at this pace. We're concerned

01:13:14.207 --> 01:13:17.596
about our homeless population and at this pace, if

01:13:17.608 --> 01:13:21.046
those of us that are on fixed incomes continue at this

01:13:21.056 --> 01:13:23.076
pace. We're not going to be able to continue in our

01:13:23.368 --> 01:13:27.296
house or the apartment that we live. So, thank you

01:13:27.306 --> 01:13:30.437
for taking the time to listen to us. I hope that you

01:13:30.687 --> 01:13:34.957
really consider the comments that are made and I do

01:13:34.967 --> 01:13:37.787
not support the increase that you guys have proposed

01:13:37.796 --> 01:13:41.787
today. Thank you. Thank you for your comments today

01:13:41.796 --> 01:13:46.296
MS Jackson, just one point of clarification for the

01:13:46.306 --> 01:13:51.257
monthly bill impacts for 2025 for an average customer

01:13:51.267 --> 01:13:56.096
Edison is proposing approximately a 10.3% increase

01:13:56.108 --> 01:14:00.576
for 2025. That's still too much, especially those of

01:14:00.586 --> 01:14:03.747
us that are paying over $400 in electricity right now

01:14:03.757 --> 01:14:09.517
like I am and my house is not that big. I appreciate

01:14:09.527 --> 01:14:15.868
your comments. Thank you operator. Next speaker.

01:14:15.868 --> 01:14:19.287
Our next caller is Tony Clinkscales. You may go ahead

01:14:21.806 --> 01:14:24.927
Uh Good, good. What is it? Good afternoon. My name

01:14:24.937 --> 01:14:29.586
is Tony Clings Skills. Ton. I first name, last name

01:14:29.596 --> 01:14:39.767
Clinkscale Cli NKSC A Les, I'm calling and with the

01:14:39.777 --> 01:14:44.576
same concerns as everyone else and my added comment

01:14:44.586 --> 01:14:49.056
to it is I heard someone and I didn't catch the name

01:14:49.076 --> 01:14:51.618
They were talking about the electric, the electric

01:14:51.628 --> 01:14:56.197
cars that are going to be mandated. And I find that

01:14:56.207 --> 01:15:00.658
that's kind of interesting that California is mandating

01:15:00.707 --> 01:15:06.187
electric cars when we're having such a problem with

01:15:06.197 --> 01:15:11.796
our grids. Keeping up with the current usage that people

01:15:11.806 --> 01:15:19.908
are, are um having to manipulate to live on during

01:15:19.917 --> 01:15:24.207
the day. The tou which is the time of use, we have

01:15:24.217 --> 01:15:30.037
to monitor, you know what time we can wash our dishes

01:15:30.046 --> 01:15:35.217
wash our clothes and we're doing all of this. Wow,

01:15:36.296 --> 01:15:40.478
they're trying to increase electric cars on the road

01:15:40.687 --> 01:15:45.257
while they're having all these new developments. I

01:15:45.267 --> 01:15:50.957
live in the inland Empire and it is just astronomical

01:15:50.967 --> 01:15:56.957
development of businesses and houses which S ce is

01:15:56.967 --> 01:16:02.517
going to have to accommodate. So the more that we build

01:16:02.868 --> 01:16:07.937
the more our grids, what is southern California Edison

01:16:07.947 --> 01:16:14.967
doing to um with for their infrastructure that would

01:16:14.978 --> 01:16:22.148
be got solar power instead of building or using private

01:16:22.158 --> 01:16:28.167
companies to increase our cost. It just doesn't even

01:16:28.177 --> 01:16:34.507
make any sense. Um Also I want to comment on somebody

01:16:34.517 --> 01:16:39.408
else mentioning. Uh No, no, no, no, I'm sorry. Uh You

01:16:39.417 --> 01:16:43.576
mentioned that their annual operating costs includes

01:16:43.586 --> 01:16:48.658
meters employees, poles, wires, all of that stuff.

01:16:48.667 --> 01:16:53.618
Well as some of the other commenters have called in

01:16:53.628 --> 01:16:56.277
and said you can't even get a hold of an employee.

01:16:56.287 --> 01:17:00.056
So who are you paying the CEO isn't answering these

01:17:00.066 --> 01:17:04.336
phone calls and we can't even get through for our concerns

01:17:04.346 --> 01:17:10.767
My meter was out for almost a month and I never got

01:17:10.777 --> 01:17:14.687
an alert and they sent somebody over here, they dispatched

01:17:14.697 --> 01:17:18.457
somebody over here and never even told me. And when

01:17:18.467 --> 01:17:22.187
I asked about it, they said they don't send them out

01:17:22.628 --> 01:17:26.066
That doesn't make any sense. My meters out. I don't

01:17:26.076 --> 01:17:29.767
know and you get send somebody. Ok? I know my time

01:17:29.777 --> 01:17:32.757
is up, but I just wanted to say I'm in concurrence

01:17:32.767 --> 01:17:36.457
with everybody else. It shouldn't increase when you're

01:17:36.478 --> 01:17:39.306
out. You're not even looking at your in infrastructure

01:17:39.316 --> 01:17:44.207
or taking care of the uh so called employees that aren't

01:17:44.217 --> 01:17:47.267
even answering phones.

01:17:47.267 --> 01:17:50.527
Thank you very much for your comments today. Thank

01:17:50.537 --> 01:17:55.046
you for allowing me operator and next speaker please

01:17:57.017 --> 01:18:00.398
Our next caller is Christine Washburn, Redlands resident

01:18:00.586 --> 01:18:03.148
You may go ahead.

01:18:03.148 --> 01:18:11.027
Yes. Uh, Christine C hr Istine Washburn, Washburn.

01:18:11.467 --> 01:18:14.187
Um, I am one of those. Uh, my husband and I are

01:18:14.197 --> 01:18:18.566
retired and on a fixed income, I get a whopping $12

01:18:18.576 --> 01:18:22.846
for, um, social security and he retired as a custodian

01:18:23.388 --> 01:18:28.217
Uh, I am against these rate increases. Um, at every

01:18:28.228 --> 01:18:33.096
turn, we have higher gasoline prices, higher food prices

01:18:33.108 --> 01:18:36.346
higher ho homeowners insurance is doubled because of

01:18:36.358 --> 01:18:41.228
the fires. Um, even tax preparation fees are going

01:18:41.237 --> 01:18:46.247
up. Uh, so what I am against the rate increases, um

01:18:46.378 --> 01:18:50.007
if Imperial County can have lower rates as the other

01:18:50.017 --> 01:18:54.316
lady spoke, um, why can't, uh, s ce be more efficient

01:18:54.326 --> 01:18:58.427
in its use of funds? And why, um, does the CEO require

01:18:58.437 --> 01:19:03.447
$2 million is 1 million not enough per year? Um, I

01:19:03.457 --> 01:19:08.017
just, um, I'm very frustrated that it becomes harder

01:19:08.027 --> 01:19:11.527
and harder to live and I'm a California native. I'd

01:19:11.537 --> 01:19:15.217
like to die in my own home and I just hope and

01:19:15.228 --> 01:19:17.947
pray that we'll be able to make all these payments

01:19:18.187 --> 01:19:23.148
Thank you. Thank you, Miss Washburn operator. Next

01:19:23.158 --> 01:19:28.447
caller,

01:19:28.447 --> 01:19:31.576
our next caller is Karan Nunez with Lincoln Training

01:19:31.586 --> 01:19:35.368
Center. You may go ahead.

01:19:35.368 --> 01:19:39.978
Hello, my name is Caron. Caron. Last name is Nunez

01:19:39.997 --> 01:19:45.728
N UN EZ and I'm with Lincoln Training Center Organization

01:19:45.737 --> 01:19:50.888
We're down in South Almay. What we do is we serve hundreds

01:19:50.898 --> 01:19:57.167
of people with disabilities and I'm in support of GRC

01:19:57.648 --> 01:20:03.868
um especially when I'm in support because I, I like

01:20:03.878 --> 01:20:08.108
that when you restore power after an outage, it's done

01:20:08.118 --> 01:20:12.967
quickly. And so the upgrades are necessary. We have

01:20:12.978 --> 01:20:16.687
people with disabilities who are on breathing machines

01:20:16.697 --> 01:20:19.997
and equipment and their backup systems only last so

01:20:20.007 --> 01:20:26.737
long. So restoration during a short short time of downtime

01:20:26.747 --> 01:20:31.086
is very critical for this population. I also am in

01:20:31.096 --> 01:20:35.947
support because of the increase in cyber security needs

01:20:36.056 --> 01:20:40.728
I'm, I'm aware of what can happen if we don't have

01:20:40.737 --> 01:20:44.648
adequate oversight. So thank you so much for your time

01:20:44.658 --> 01:20:47.957
I appreciate it very much.

01:20:47.957 --> 01:20:52.858
Thank you, MS Nunez operator. Next caller,

01:20:52.858 --> 01:20:56.806
our next caller is Margarita Mascaro. You may go ahead

01:21:05.306 --> 01:21:09.027
and we are not able to hear you, but go ahead. Can

01:21:09.037 --> 01:21:16.836
you hear me? Ok. My name is Margarita Mascaro. Ma Ftorro

01:21:17.437 --> 01:21:22.816
my husband and I, we are 80 years old and we are

01:21:22.826 --> 01:21:28.957
having seen this increases. I mean, everything m market

01:21:29.177 --> 01:21:32.737
uh bills. I mean, it's getting tough. He only gets

01:21:33.007 --> 01:21:35.846
a little more with increase this year, a little more

01:21:35.858 --> 01:21:41.086
than $700. And it's terrible to hear all these people

01:21:41.096 --> 01:21:47.576
make millions of dollars and hectic. It's a very, it's

01:21:47.586 --> 01:21:51.987
incredible. Some days they're going to be present to

01:21:51.997 --> 01:21:55.737
God and they're gonna say, why you let these people

01:21:55.747 --> 01:22:00.478
why you didn't help when they making millions of dollars

01:22:00.868 --> 01:22:04.777
I'm talking about all these senior citizens and all

01:22:04.787 --> 01:22:09.888
the in low income families who are they having the

01:22:09.898 --> 01:22:15.217
bills to pay not enough money to support their food

01:22:15.796 --> 01:22:21.086
And it, it's horrible. It's horrible how these people

01:22:21.096 --> 01:22:26.858
just thinking in the job, just getting this toeo and

01:22:26.868 --> 01:22:31.228
the administration and all making all that money. And

01:22:31.237 --> 01:22:35.537
I do not agree for any, any more increases. We had

01:22:35.546 --> 01:22:40.217
enough and our income is very limited. I, you know

01:22:40.228 --> 01:22:47.237
like I'm really, I have issues with my health. I'm

01:22:47.247 --> 01:22:59.507
90% in my house and I have to use electricity. Um

01:22:59.507 --> 01:23:05.316
Can you hear me? Hello? Yes, we can hear you. Yes,

01:23:05.326 --> 01:23:09.207
I do not agree with these people. They want increase

01:23:09.417 --> 01:23:14.277
Please help us to change different companies or somebody

01:23:14.287 --> 01:23:20.517
else to bring us electricity to our homes.

01:23:20.517 --> 01:23:23.687
Thank you very much for your comments today. Thank

01:23:23.697 --> 01:23:28.846
you operator. Next speaker

01:23:28.846 --> 01:23:32.118
and our next caller is Rex Worthy. You may go ahead

01:23:32.957 --> 01:23:41.747
Thank you. Uh My name is Rex Worthy. Rexwo rt hy, I

01:23:41.757 --> 01:23:46.037
live in Fraser Park, California. I'm 69 years old.

01:23:46.046 --> 01:23:50.796
I'm on a fixed income and I am on the care program

01:23:51.267 --> 01:23:56.378
Um, that does help, uh, uh, big time but still I, I

01:23:56.388 --> 01:24:01.517
I'm, I'm dying here, I'm dying here in California and

01:24:01.527 --> 01:24:05.066
the bills are just getting too much. I'm saving every

01:24:05.076 --> 01:24:12.577
little penny or dollar nowadays. And, um, it's just

01:24:12.586 --> 01:24:16.206
uh, I don't know, uh, I, it's just getting too much

01:24:16.217 --> 01:24:19.988
for me. You know, my insurance has increased like everyone

01:24:19.997 --> 01:24:22.478
else. The cost of living in California has increased

01:24:23.197 --> 01:24:28.758
Um I, I own my house. I'm still on a mortgage but

01:24:28.767 --> 01:24:36.876
every time they get the taxes, um uh it's just uh um

01:24:37.356 --> 01:24:40.517
anyway, I just wanted to say to uh to the community

01:24:40.528 --> 01:24:45.157
please uh vote no on this subject for uh there have

01:24:45.166 --> 01:24:51.478
been a good, uh it's been a good uh um company. Uh

01:24:51.488 --> 01:24:55.666
We do get Black G up up here in Fraser Park, but

01:24:55.677 --> 01:25:00.597
it's just um, I'm just old and I'm on, you know, social

01:25:00.606 --> 01:25:06.166
security and um I'm just trying uh I have a budget

01:25:06.177 --> 01:25:09.088
and it just doesn't work every month and it keeps going

01:25:09.097 --> 01:25:14.856
up. So, um I just want to ask the California Public

01:25:14.896 --> 01:25:19.097
Attorney Commission to vote. No, on this uh application

01:25:19.146 --> 01:25:22.758
Thank you very much. Thank you for your comments, Mr

01:25:22.767 --> 01:25:25.247
Worthy

01:25:25.247 --> 01:25:28.478
operator. Next speaker please.

01:25:28.478 --> 01:25:31.497
And our next caller is Lisa Bowden. You may go ahead

01:25:32.447 --> 01:25:36.186
Yes. Hi. My name is Lisa, L isa, last name Bowden,

01:25:36.407 --> 01:25:40.666
B as in boy. Owd as in David, E as in Edward

01:25:40.677 --> 01:25:45.588
N as in Nancy and I reside in Rancho Cucamonga, California

01:25:46.068 --> 01:25:50.068
Um, the constant increases, it seems like this is just

01:25:50.077 --> 01:25:54.478
such monopoly. It's hard for now. It's just my husband

01:25:54.488 --> 01:25:58.988
and I to even, you know, buy groceries, you know, put

01:25:58.997 --> 01:26:01.728
gas in our vehicles. I did buy a plug in hybrid, which

01:26:01.738 --> 01:26:04.646
has helped a bit with that. But, you know, there's

01:26:04.657 --> 01:26:08.597
so many of us on fixed incomes and this is really any

01:26:08.606 --> 01:26:11.856
increases with any utility is hurting the middle class

01:26:12.287 --> 01:26:16.916
Um, it seems like as customers are paying for the inadequacies

01:26:16.927 --> 01:26:20.376
of the maintenance of what Edison should be doing,

01:26:20.706 --> 01:26:23.157
uh, between, you know, like the fires, I've had to

01:26:23.166 --> 01:26:26.528
live through the Grand Prix fires. Uh, the high salaries

01:26:26.537 --> 01:26:29.228
which has been already spoke about. Um, I was online

01:26:29.238 --> 01:26:32.318
too looking at what some of these people are making

01:26:32.327 --> 01:26:35.247
and it's crazy. Um, they should have their salaries

01:26:35.258 --> 01:26:38.548
reduced if you ask me. Um, and of course some owning

01:26:38.557 --> 01:26:43.396
stock, um, then like with, with the, the fires, the

01:26:43.407 --> 01:26:46.186
homeowners insurance, some of my neighbors can't even

01:26:46.197 --> 01:26:48.896
get home owners insurance except if they have to go

01:26:48.907 --> 01:26:51.416
through a special plan through, uh, California. What

01:26:51.427 --> 01:26:56.967
doesn't seem right. Uh, the tear. Um, luckily my husband

01:26:56.978 --> 01:26:59.916
and I both work out of the house. So when I do

01:26:59.927 --> 01:27:02.077
need to do anything, when I have time, at least I can

01:27:02.088 --> 01:27:05.137
do my laundry. But there's very many people that have

01:27:05.146 --> 01:27:07.947
families that have to wait till the evening, even to

01:27:07.956 --> 01:27:11.686
watch TV, cook their meals. It should just be a one

01:27:11.697 --> 01:27:15.517
rate and a lower rate for everybody. Um, I'm not a

01:27:15.528 --> 01:27:18.478
big believer in climate change. I think that's a leftist

01:27:18.488 --> 01:27:20.548
agenda, so I'm not going to make any more comments

01:27:20.557 --> 01:27:27.537
on that. Um, the, uh, again, just the, uh, just the

01:27:27.548 --> 01:27:30.827
cost that it's gonna cost us all. It's not right. There's

01:27:31.548 --> 01:27:34.157
something needs to be done. Everybody needs to vote

01:27:34.166 --> 01:27:37.916
No. Um uh it's, it's like I said, it's hurting the

01:27:37.927 --> 01:27:40.517
middle class and, and it's not fair. It's almost like

01:27:40.697 --> 01:27:44.818
um between all these companies and it will be a little

01:27:44.827 --> 01:27:47.217
bit po political dis invite. They're trying to turn

01:27:47.228 --> 01:27:49.427
us into a socialist country, so we have to rely on

01:27:49.436 --> 01:27:52.528
the government. Um, but I hope everybody does that

01:27:52.537 --> 01:27:58.537
This is voted down. Um, and that, uh with the renewable

01:27:58.548 --> 01:28:01.537
power grid, the infrastructure right now can't handle

01:28:01.548 --> 01:28:04.456
it. And it's going to be a long time before it can

01:28:04.467 --> 01:28:07.818
be handled and that's all my comments. And I thank

01:28:07.827 --> 01:28:11.626
you for having this call today. Thank you, MS Bowden

01:28:13.028 --> 01:28:16.088
operator. Next call.

01:28:16.088 --> 01:28:18.037
Thank you. And before we go to the next caller, if

01:28:18.048 --> 01:28:20.217
you would like to make a comment, please unmute your

01:28:20.228 --> 01:28:23.396
phone. Press star one and record your first and last

01:28:23.407 --> 01:28:27.488
name clearly. Our next caller is James Cervantes. You

01:28:27.497 --> 01:28:30.347
may go ahead.

01:28:30.347 --> 01:28:35.298
Hello everybody. Uh, my name is James Cervantes. J

01:28:35.307 --> 01:28:43.008
am ESC er VA NTS live in Chino Hills. Uh so I

01:28:43.017 --> 01:28:46.597
understand the GRC and the need to increase the rates

01:28:46.606 --> 01:28:50.728
However, how are they going to distribute the increase

01:28:50.738 --> 01:28:54.037
within the three tiers? Are they going to spread it

01:28:54.048 --> 01:28:57.606
out evenly or add the increase to a majority of a single

01:28:57.617 --> 01:29:00.988
tier such as the high peak tier? That is already a

01:29:01.017 --> 01:29:04.568
high rate. Also along with that there's the winter

01:29:04.577 --> 01:29:07.017
cost periods and the summer cost periods, which are

01:29:07.028 --> 01:29:10.228
also I believe different rates as well. So I just want

01:29:10.238 --> 01:29:12.407
to know or kind of wonder how they're going to spread

01:29:12.416 --> 01:29:17.557
this increase. Also, the increase of over 40.6% is

01:29:17.568 --> 01:29:21.077
way too high of an increase to a utility. That is already

01:29:21.088 --> 01:29:24.478
one of the highest utilities we pay again. I understand

01:29:24.488 --> 01:29:27.258
the need to increase the rate every four years, which

01:29:27.267 --> 01:29:31.177
is what the GRC is. However, I believe a lower percentage

01:29:31.186 --> 01:29:36.646
would be more understandable than a 4040 than a 40.6%

01:29:36.657 --> 01:29:41.988
increase and that's it. Thank you much. Thank you,

01:29:41.997 --> 01:29:46.896
Mister Cervantes operator. Next caller,

01:29:46.896 --> 01:29:49.988
our next caller is Alice Snyder. You may go ahead.

01:29:51.818 --> 01:29:57.157
Hi, my name is Alice Snyder A L I ce Snyd. Er

01:29:57.528 --> 01:30:00.508
um I'm in my late twenties and I live in La Crescenta

01:30:00.517 --> 01:30:04.637
and I just wanted to add my voice to this conversation

01:30:04.646 --> 01:30:07.686
because I understand and appreciate that a lot of um

01:30:07.927 --> 01:30:11.117
senior citizens are engaging in this conversation.

01:30:11.126 --> 01:30:13.298
But I also want to make it clear that it's not just

01:30:13.307 --> 01:30:17.088
them who are opposing this increase as well. Um I do

01:30:17.097 --> 01:30:22.887
you know, specifically myself, I have a master's degree

01:30:22.896 --> 01:30:25.508
in environmental science and specializing in the interaction

01:30:25.517 --> 01:30:28.666
between society and the environment. So I understand

01:30:28.677 --> 01:30:31.097
that there needs to be a shift in where we use our

01:30:31.106 --> 01:30:33.626
energy and how we use our energy. But I don't believe

01:30:33.637 --> 01:30:36.017
that the rate should increase so drastically because

01:30:36.028 --> 01:30:38.867
it discourages people from choosing a renewable option

01:30:39.287 --> 01:30:42.186
Um And to really make the change last, we shouldn't

01:30:42.197 --> 01:30:44.537
make people choose between keeping their house warm

01:30:44.548 --> 01:30:48.017
or protecting the environment. That's all I have to

01:30:48.028 --> 01:30:50.537
say. Thank you.

01:30:50.537 --> 01:30:54.166
Thank you very much for your comments operator. Next

01:30:54.177 --> 01:30:57.747
speaker,

01:30:57.747 --> 01:31:01.048
our next caller is Aggie Jacoby. You may go ahead.

01:31:03.298 --> 01:31:07.407
Hi, this is Peggy. I'm sorry, can you hear me? Yes

01:31:07.416 --> 01:31:11.738
we can hear you. Ok. Um I'm, my name is Peggy Jacobi

01:31:11.747 --> 01:31:17.318
pe GGYJ AC OB I, I'm from the Victor Valley, the high

01:31:17.327 --> 01:31:26.488
desert of California. And I would like to uh um suggest

01:31:26.497 --> 01:31:32.728
that our elected officials that are for the people

01:31:32.738 --> 01:31:39.617
of California would put a lot of pressure on Edison

01:31:40.017 --> 01:31:45.706
I call for an audit of Edison to see where their money

01:31:45.717 --> 01:31:49.876
is going to. We as, as Californians, we wanna know

01:31:49.887 --> 01:31:53.907
what their money is going to and then for them to be

01:31:53.916 --> 01:32:00.228
audited. And also um there was one other thing um who

01:32:00.238 --> 01:32:06.706
owns Edison, it feels like some kind of foreign entity

01:32:06.856 --> 01:32:12.106
purchased Edison and they're taking advantage of the

01:32:12.117 --> 01:32:18.548
American people. And so I know that with um uh Gavin

01:32:18.557 --> 01:32:22.278
Newsom and his solar and his electric stuff and him

01:32:22.287 --> 01:32:25.617
all thinking that that this is what we need. No, we

01:32:25.626 --> 01:32:29.896
need our power grids improved. We need Edison to be

01:32:29.907 --> 01:32:33.258
audited. We want to know where the money is going and

01:32:33.267 --> 01:32:36.936
we want it to our money to be put to good use

01:32:36.947 --> 01:32:42.856
and no, I am against the raise in our Edison bill 100%

01:32:42.947 --> 01:32:49.528
Thank you. Thank you, Miss Jacoby. Mhm. Operator. Next

01:32:49.537 --> 01:32:51.887
speaker, please.

01:32:51.887 --> 01:32:54.697
Our next caller is Rachel Beard. You may go ahead.

01:32:54.706 --> 01:33:05.367
Your line is open

01:33:05.367 --> 01:33:07.327
again, Rachel Beard. We're not able to hear you. Please

01:33:07.338 --> 01:33:13.146
check your mute button. Ok. And then

01:33:13.146 --> 01:33:18.416
yes. Um yeah, don't approve of the increase.

01:33:18.416 --> 01:33:22.077
I don't believe that they need to push solar power

01:33:22.088 --> 01:33:27.258
powers on houses that um just to, you know, help out

01:33:27.728 --> 01:33:31.697
So I don't agree with them pushing solar if we don't

01:33:31.706 --> 01:33:34.537
really want solar, but we do, we don't want, we don't

01:33:34.548 --> 01:33:38.927
want to increase. Um I believe that when we have fires

01:33:38.936 --> 01:33:43.447
that we pay our fire department through our taxes.

01:33:43.456 --> 01:33:47.447
So I don't think that should be an issue and I feel

01:33:47.456 --> 01:33:50.666
like

01:33:50.666 --> 01:33:53.626
we really, like one of the gentlemen said that we really

01:33:53.637 --> 01:33:57.436
we need to really now that your company really needs

01:33:57.447 --> 01:34:05.407
to check them and own budget. Yeah, but, and um if

01:34:05.416 --> 01:34:08.747
there's something that will way around this increase

01:34:09.117 --> 01:34:11.517
I know it's 10% seems like it's less, you know, it

01:34:11.528 --> 01:34:13.738
doesn't matter to you guys but doesn't have a trust

01:34:14.068 --> 01:34:18.508
We do care about the increase. And so that's all I

01:34:18.517 --> 01:34:21.706
wanted to say.

01:34:21.706 --> 01:34:24.838
Thank you very much for your comments today. Ok. Thank

01:34:24.847 --> 01:34:30.037
you, operator. Next speaker, please. Thank you. And

01:34:30.048 --> 01:34:31.876
again, before we go to the next caller, if you would

01:34:31.887 --> 01:34:34.347
like to make a comment, please unmute your phone and

01:34:34.356 --> 01:34:37.867
press star one to record your name. Our next caller

01:34:37.876 --> 01:34:49.617
is Donnell Lockman Harris. You may go ahead

01:34:49.617 --> 01:34:51.807
again, Donna Lockman Harris. We're not able to hear

01:34:51.818 --> 01:34:56.617
you. Please check your mute button.

01:34:56.617 --> 01:35:01.447
Are you saying Anna Lockman Harris?

01:35:01.447 --> 01:35:08.247
Yes, go ahead. My name is spelled a Nnah as in he

01:35:09.157 --> 01:35:15.758
last name is Laux as in X ray, hyphen, M as in

01:35:15.767 --> 01:35:24.617
Mary Injares as in Sam. I'm in the Newhall California

01:35:24.626 --> 01:35:32.186
area and I totally agree with uh not increasing the

01:35:32.197 --> 01:35:37.416
uh rate, at least not 10.3 or 10.6. Whatever it is

01:35:37.427 --> 01:35:39.978
that you're looking at, I don't think it should be

01:35:39.988 --> 01:35:45.106
more than a 2% increase. Um I've recently lost my job

01:35:45.117 --> 01:35:49.947
I'm a senior um gonna be 64 in a couple of months

01:35:50.537 --> 01:35:54.838
and having to look for work at this age, worried about

01:35:55.497 --> 01:36:02.508
having income to even keep a roof over my head is concerning

01:36:02.517 --> 01:36:04.827
me, let alone having to worry about paying a couple

01:36:04.838 --> 01:36:09.646
of 100 bucks a month for the electric bill. Um, and

01:36:09.657 --> 01:36:13.106
I just barely qualified for the care program because

01:36:13.117 --> 01:36:18.068
of the loss of my employment. But that still is over

01:36:18.097 --> 01:36:24.017
$100 a month if not more for the electricity. So I

01:36:24.028 --> 01:36:27.517
just wanna make sure that you, you consider that as

01:36:27.528 --> 01:36:33.298
well that some of us have issues that may take place

01:36:33.307 --> 01:36:36.427
in our lives that make it difficult for us such as

01:36:36.677 --> 01:36:40.057
unemployment. And there's probably gonna be a lot more

01:36:40.068 --> 01:36:44.827
people that are losing their jobs because of what happened

01:36:44.838 --> 01:36:48.228
with the COVID and property management and real estate

01:36:48.238 --> 01:36:52.298
management. So I thank you for allowing us to call

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in and I as other colleges stated, do hope that this

01:36:57.126 --> 01:37:00.597
isn't falling on deaf ears that you really are taking

01:37:00.606 --> 01:37:05.537
into consideration the situation with um how difficult

01:37:05.548 --> 01:37:09.177
it is for us, especially older individuals that don't

01:37:09.186 --> 01:37:14.896
have uh a steady income or a good income to be able

01:37:14.907 --> 01:37:19.497
to provide for ourselves. It's not a joke when people

01:37:19.508 --> 01:37:24.008
are talking about being homeless or having to eat cat

01:37:24.017 --> 01:37:28.956
food or dog food because you, you can't afford the

01:37:28.967 --> 01:37:32.738
electricity in in the summer months because it's so

01:37:32.747 --> 01:37:37.617
overwhelmingly hot. Thank you again.

01:37:37.617 --> 01:37:39.956
Thank you. We greatly appreciate your comments today

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Operator. Next speaker, please.

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Last scholar is Loretta Cooper. You may go ahead,

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Loretta Cooper, Lore TT A coo P er Inglewood California

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I respectfully offer my comments regarding my opposition

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to the proposed cost increases,

01:38:08.367 --> 01:38:12.798
financial costs related to wild fires. Some of which

01:38:12.807 --> 01:38:16.697
were linked to utility equipment failures should not

01:38:16.706 --> 01:38:19.978
be passed on to customers.

01:38:19.978 --> 01:38:23.997
Infrastructure improvements are part of doing business

01:38:24.008 --> 01:38:30.787
particularly for a privately owned entity. Compensation

01:38:30.807 --> 01:38:35.467
to shareholders is likely not a major concern for the

01:38:35.478 --> 01:38:42.347
majority of S ce s 15 million customers. Sve profits

01:38:42.356 --> 01:38:50.008
were $954 million for 2022 which was about a $20 million

01:38:50.657 --> 01:38:55.077
increase from 2021

01:38:55.077 --> 01:38:59.927
S ce cost to Southern California. Customers are twice

01:39:00.117 --> 01:39:06.106
the national average and customer service is lacking

01:39:09.117 --> 01:39:15.338
I also stand in the gap for all the low income members

01:39:15.347 --> 01:39:19.706
of our communities in southern California.

01:39:19.706 --> 01:39:23.876
I am in favor of discontinuing private, excuse me,

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privatization to S ce and all entities

01:39:30.896 --> 01:39:34.637
that provide services and resources that are vital

01:39:34.646 --> 01:39:40.008
to the health and well being of our communities. Thank

01:39:40.017 --> 01:39:42.827
you for hearing us out.

01:39:42.827 --> 01:39:46.497
Thank you for your comments today, MS Cooper

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Operator. Was that our last speaker today? Yes, it

01:39:50.347 --> 01:39:54.907
was ok. Then that concludes all the speakers who have

01:39:54.916 --> 01:39:58.666
signed up to speak. I want to thank our it staff, court

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reporters and Commissioner Douglas for their participation

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and support today. And most of all, I want to thank

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our public speakers for your input and comments and

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for your patience and waiting, waiting in the queue

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to provide your comments. Thank you. Also to everyone

01:40:14.057 --> 01:40:17.456
who took the time to listen in on the phone or watch

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online. If any of you would like to provide additional

01:40:20.557 --> 01:40:23.738
input or comments after this hearing, you may submit

01:40:23.747 --> 01:40:26.876
written comments on the docket card for this proceeding

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which can be found on the commission's website at a

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ps.cpuc.ca.gov backslash c backslash A 2305010. If

01:40:47.436 --> 01:40:50.367
you need assistance with providing additional comments

01:40:50.396 --> 01:40:53.747
please contact the commission's public adviser's office

01:40:54.396 --> 01:40:57.137
that concludes this afternoon's public participation

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hearing. Thank you, everyone. We are adjourned. We

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will be off the record.