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In here is
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Southern California Edison Company,
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General Rates Case
Application on this date
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Tuesday, June 30th, 2020.
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The assigned judges will now
make their announcements.
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Thank you operator.
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We will now be on the record.
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The Commission will
please come to order.
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Good evening.
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This is a time and place set
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for the Public Participation Hearing
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in the General Rate Case Application
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of Southern California Edison Company,
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Application 19-08-013.
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My name is Ehren Seybert
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and I'm one of the assigned
Administrative Law Judges
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to this proceeding.
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I'm co-signed with Judge Sophia Park.
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who's listening in to today's hearing.
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We are also joined by Genevieve Shiroma,
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who is the assigned
Commissioner for this case.
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Commissioner, would you like
to make any opening remarks?
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Yes. Thank you.
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Thank you, Judge Seybert and Judge Park.
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Good evening everyone, My
name is Genevieve Shiroma.
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I'm the assigned Commissioner
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on the Southern California
Edison General Rate Case.
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I'd like to take a moment
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to first thank our court reporters,
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Adores Wyman and Jason Stacey,
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who are chronicling our meeting tonight
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and making sure that all of
your comments are recorded.
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I would like to thank
our public advisor's office,
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Alison Brown and Justin Levine,
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our operator and our
information technology
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and audio visual team,
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Robert Stanford and Joe Haga.
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Presenting up our first ever
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online public participation hearings.
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We had one earlier today.
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A little background about myself.
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I was appointed by Governor Newsom
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to the California Public
Utilities Commission
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in January of 2019.
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Prior to my appointment,
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I worked for the California
Air Resources Board
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for 20 years from 1978 to 1999,
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working on air quality regulations.
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And then I was appointed
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to the Agricultural
Labor Relations Board
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and served there from 1999 to 2019.
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And it is the one worker
collective bargaining board.
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About the same time
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I served for 20 years
as an elected director
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on the Sacramento
Municipal Utility District, SMUD.
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The electric religious feed provider
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for Sephora County from 1999 to 2018.
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So it is with all of
this path experience,
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but in particular, my time
at SMUD and at the CPUC
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that I will be scrutinizing
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Southern California Edison's
requested revenue requirements
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and making sure that
what has been proposed
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will lead to just and reasonable rates,
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which is required by the statute.
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With the economic crisis and
ongoing COVID-19 pandemic
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it is even more important than ever
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that we are conscious
of increasing rates,
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making sure the right capital
of projects are being approved
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to ensure reliability
and wildfire safety.
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As people practice physical
distancing, teleworking,
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and distance learning at home
and making sure that programs
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are in place to support customers.
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I'll look forward to continue
my work with our judges,
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Judge Park and Judge Seybert
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as we build a record in this proceeding
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and hearing from you.
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The Southern California Edison customers
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today, this evening.
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Thank you very much.
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Thank
you Commissioner.
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I wanna start by acknowledging
the pain, grief and hardships
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that COVID-19 has imposed throughout
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our state, communities
and in our daily lives.
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Our currently state
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and locals shelter at
home orders in place
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to protect the health and
wellbeing of our communities.
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Therefore, we are holding these hearings
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online and by phone.
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While we look forward to the time
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when it will be safe to
resume public gatherings,
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I wanna emphasize that
the public engagement
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remains more important to
the Commission now than ever,
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and that we will be
paying careful attention
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to the feedback provided today.
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The basic purpose of today's
hearing is to hear directly
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from Southern California
Edison customers
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and members of the public
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about this particular application.
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I will start by providing
some brief background
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on the Commission and
the General Rate Case
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and introduce Ms. Alison Brown
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from the Commissions
public advisor's office.
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We will then hear brief statements
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from Southern California Edison
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and some of the other
parties in this proceeding.
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Finally, and most importantly,
we will hear from all of you.
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For participants that wish to
provide public comment today,
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I ask that you press star
one on your phone now
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to alert the operator
who will start to queue in
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public speakers one at a time.
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The Public Utilities
Commission is a state agency
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that decides how much money
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Southern California Edison may earn,
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and the actual rates that
may be included on your bills
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for electric service.
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The Public Utilities Commission
has five Commissioners
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who are appointed by the Governor
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and confirmed by the state's Senate.
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While Judge Park and I manage
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the day-to-day activities of the case,
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the five Commissioners
are ultimately the ones
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who will decide and
vote on whether or not
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to approve Southern
California Edison's request
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or some other amounts.
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Our job as the judges,
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will be to highlight all the
evidence in the proceeding
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and write a proposed decision
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for the five Commissioners to consider.
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The five Commissioners will decide
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whether to adopt the proposed
decision from the judges
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or adopt their own alternative decision,
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based on the evidence in the proceeding.
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It is estimated that the
Commission will vote
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on the decision towards
the beginning of next year.
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I will now briefly summarize
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Southern California
Edison's application.
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Last August, Southern California Edison
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submitted it's General Rate Case
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with asking the Commission for approval
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for expected costs for owning
and operating the company
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for the following years
in 2021, 2022 and 2023.
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Earlier this year, the
Commission adopted a decision
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which changed the
General Rate Case cycle
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from a three-year cycle
to a four-year cycle.
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Therefore, this proceeding
will now also consider
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Southern California
Edison's expected costs
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for the year 2024.
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A Commission decision on these costs
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is anticipated toward the end of 2023.
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The expenses included
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in Southern California
Edison's rate case application
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generally cover the poles,
wires, meters, employees,
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and all the activities
needed to deliver electricity
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to your home or business.
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It also includes proposed expenses
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and capital infrastructure
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to address wildfire risks
related to Edison's equipment.
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It is important to note that
the costs we are talking about
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in this application are just one part
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of Southern California Edison's
annual operating expenses
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that impact customer rates.
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Separate from this proceeding,
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the Commission authorizes
recovery of the cost
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that Edison actually incurs
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to purchase electricity
on the open market.
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These costs are directly
passed on to consumers
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and Edison is not allowed
to earn a profit on them.
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There was also another proceeding
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that was determined how
approved costs are distributed
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among Southern California
Edison's customers.
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And this specific rate will
be included on customer bills.
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This is generally referred to as
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the Rate Design Proceeding,
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and that application should be filed
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in the fall of this year.
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Right now though,
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we are here to receive
comments from the public
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regarding Southern
California Edison's requests
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to increase rates and revenue
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by 1.2 billion in January, 2021
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and additional increases
of 486 million in 2022
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and 503 million in 2023.
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If approved Southern California Edison's
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total revenue requirement
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will be approximately
7.55 billion in 2021
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or an 18.1% increase over
what is currently authorized.
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If the request is approved,
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the impact on residential customers
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will be a monthly increase
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of approximately $12
and 71 cents in 2021.
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In 2022, the additional monthly increase
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will be approximately $5.
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And in 2023, the
additional monthly increase
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will be approximately $6.
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We wanna hear what you think about
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Southern California Edison's requests.
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Comments from the public
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can help the Public Utilities Commission
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reach an informed decision.
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The Commissioners, Judge Park and I
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will pay close attention
to the opinions expressed
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during today's public hearing.
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We have a court reporter
transcribing today's hearing
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who will be taking down
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everything that is said
on the telephone line.
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If you do speak,
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we ask that you speak slowly and clearly
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so that the reporter is able
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to capture everything that is said.
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The written transcript
of today's hearing
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will be available to
Judge Park and myself,
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the Commissioners,
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and posted publicly on the
docket card for this proceeding.
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In addition to submitting
oral comments today,
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written comments
regarding Edison's application
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may also be submitted on a docket card
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for this proceeding by going to
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www.cpuc.ca.gov\sce2021grcpubliccomments.
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As of today, we have received
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over 3,200 written public comments.
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I would now like to
invite Ms. Allison Brown
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from the Commissions
public advisor office
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to provide brief remarks
regarding participation
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in this proceeding.
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Ms. Brown, please proceed.
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Thank you, judge.
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Welcome everyone.
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My name is Alison Brown
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and I'm the public advisor
for the Commission.
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First, I wanna thank you
all for participating today.
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As the judge and Commissioner stated,
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public participation
and input are essential
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to the Commissioner's
decision making process.
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This is your opportunity to be heard,
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to share your thoughts
on the application
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with the Administrative Law
Judges and the Commissioner.
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If you have questions about
the application or your service,
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instead of a comment,
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please reach out to the
public advisor's office at
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public.advisor@cpuc.ca.gov
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or visit the California Public
Utilities Commission website
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or the Southern
California Edison website
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for more information.
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Second, if you or anyone else
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is not able to make a comment today,
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or if after hearing
comments from others,
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you think of something
you wanna share with us.
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There are several ways
to become involved.
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If you wish to find more
information on becoming a party
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subscribe into this proceeding
so that you receive emails
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of any documents that are filed
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or submitting comments by email,
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the phone or the docket card,
as the judge just described.
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Please go to our website,
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cpuc.ca.gov or email the public advisor.
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Again, that email is
public.advisor@cpuc.ca.gov.
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All of the contact
information is also available
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on the notice that you received
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for this public participation hearing.
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Thank you and we look
forward to your comments today.
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Thank you, Ms. Brown.
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We will now hear from
some of the parties
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in this proceeding, starting
with a representative
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from Southern California Edison
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and followed by the
Public Advocate's Office
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and the Utility Reform Network.
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I ask that each of the
party representatives
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start by spelling your
name for the record.
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Mr. Snow, you may proceed.
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Thank you. And good evening.
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My name is Doug
Snow, D-O-U-G S-N-O-W.
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I wanna thank Judge Seybert
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and Judge Park and Commissioner Shiroma.
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And also thank everyone for taking time
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out of your busy
schedules and participating
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in this very important public
participation hearing today.
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Again, my name is Doug Snow
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and I'm the director of
the General Rate Case
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for Southern California Edison.
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It is a privilege to be
here and learn from you
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and listen to your input
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and any potential concerns you have
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regarding our 2021 General Rate Case.
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Edison recognizes this
proceeding is taking place.
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during unprecedented times.
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We understand that many of
our customers and communities
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are facing hardships during
the COVID-19 pandemic
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and may need help
with their electric bill.
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But as the SCE already put into place,
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important customer protections
to address those issues.
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If you need more information
on these customer protections,
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please go to sce.com/billhelp
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for information on money
saving programs and tools.
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In addition on the line today
we've also Mr. Jerry Aguilar
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from our customer service division.
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Turning back to this proceeding,
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we are currently in the middle
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of what we refer to as
the discovery period,
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where all parties to the proceeding,
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are learning more about
our funding proposal.
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Most recently, we have heard
from the consumer advocates
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and they have provided
their counterproposals
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for reductions to our requests.
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Beginning June 6th,
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there will be events evidentiary hearing
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so that the Commission can continue
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to build this official
record of our requests.
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You know, it's easy to
get caught up in process,
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but at the end of the day,
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the General Rate Case is about
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funding projects, programs, and people
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to provide you service
in a safe and reliable way
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and improve that service continuously.
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Our request for funding in this case
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covers the work that company needs to do
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in 2021 through 2024 for SCE workers
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to inspect, repair and when appropriate
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upgrade poles,
transformers, distribution lines,
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as well as provide
customer service for billing,
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service turn on, turn
off and other work.
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The cost we are requesting...
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That we were requesting
pay for the salaries
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of about 12,000 employees
and over 8,000 contractors
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who perform all this work,
live in your communities
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and often SCE customers themselves.
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In this General Rate Case,
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our requests mostly include funding
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for improving three things.
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One, safety.
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The safety of our customers
and communities we serve
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as well as the safety of our workers
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is the most important thing.
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We have undertaken and are proposing
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to continue significant efforts
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to mitigate the risk
of wildfire associated
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with our equipment,
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considering more extreme
environmental conditions
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and accelerating customer expansion
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into wildfire urban interface.
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Making the grid safe for
those who live and work near it
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and for our employees who work on it.
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In addition, keeping the grid safe
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from physical or cyber attack
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and keeping the public informed
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on how to stay safe around our equipment
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and electricity in general.
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Number two, reliability.
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The residents and
businesses in our communities
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depend on electricity.
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We have to replace old
equipment, upgrade our system
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to avoid outages and prepare
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for more clean and
distributed energy resources
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in the state.
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When we can not avoid outages,
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we want to be able to bring
the power back on quickly
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and give you as much
information along the way
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to minimize the disruption to you.
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Number three, customer interaction.
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We wanna make it easy for you
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to communicate with us and vice versa.
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Whether it is about
bills, service changes,
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new solar panels you want to install,
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new programs to save
electricity or anything else.
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We acknowledge that the
increase we are requesting
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is larger than what we have
thought in the recent past,
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but we believe we have
struck a proper balance
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seeking authorization
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for time-sensitive
public safety measures
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and doing what we can
to reprioritize or scale back
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other initiatives that we will leave
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for future General Rate Cases.
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The General Rate Case
is planning for the future.
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As I mentioned, the 2021 to 2024.
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We have to have adequate funding
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and make necessary investments
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to continue to provide
15 million Californians
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with safe, reliable, clean,
and affordable electricity.
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Those commitments
are granted in state law
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and something that
we take very seriously.
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Ultimately, the Commission will decide
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the appropriate level of funding
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after a thorough and
rigorous legal process,
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that includes all stakeholders
with different viewpoints,
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including prominent
consumer advocacy groups.
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Although our core mission
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of providing safe, reliable, clean
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and affordable electricity to
our customers has not changed
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the company submit this GRC request
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and an extraordinarily
important juncture
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for the state and for our customers.
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So that brings us to
paying for the work, your bill.
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We are very mindful of the impact
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of these costs on your bills.
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And we were working every
day to find ways of reducing costs
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so that some of this work can be done
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without increasing your bill.
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Our current forecast for this proceeding
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will increase the
average residential bill
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by about $13 per month
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for non-income
qualified customers in 21.
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The increase would be additional
$5 in 2022 and $6 in 2023.
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For about a third of our
residents or customers
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who qualify for the CARE rate
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available for lower-income customers,
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the increase would be about 30% lower.
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I realize for many of
you, this is impactful,
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but we believe the work we are proposing
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strikes a prudent balance
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between the essential
services we provide to you
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and what it costs to
provide those services.
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We realize any increase
in bills can be challenging,
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and we have several
programs, tips and tools
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to help reduce bill impacts
that may come in handy.
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So please visit sce.com/billhelp
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for more information on these resources.
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Once again, thank you for attending
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and I look forward to hearing
your comments and feedback.
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Thank you.
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Mr. Burns are you ready
to make a statement
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on behalf of public advocate.
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Thank you, your honor.
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Truman Burns, T-R-U-M-A-N B-U-R-N-S.
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Good evening, your honors,
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Commissioner Shiroma
and members of the public.
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I am Truman Burns, project coordinator
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for the Public Advocate's Offices
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response to SCE's
2021 General Rate Case.
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The Public Advocate's Office
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is the Independent Consumer Advocate
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at the California Public
Utilities Commission.
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Public Advocate's Office represents
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interest in public utility customers
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with the goal of obtaining
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the lowest possible rates for service
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consistent with safe,
reliable service levels
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and the state's environmental goals.
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Our office spent seven
months reviewing and valuating
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SCE proposal before
preparing our recommendations,
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which we presented in written
testimony on April 10th, 2020.
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Based on our review and our own forecast
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of how much revenue
SCE should we authorize,
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we found it solve SCE's
forecast of its costs et cetera.
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For 2021, we were recommending
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that the Commission reduce
SCE's requested increase
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of about $1.1 billion by more than half,
00:19:57.510 --> 00:20:00.653
which would be a $618 million deduction.
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For 2022, we recommend
a reduction of $180 million
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to Edison's requested
increase of 423 million.
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And for 2023, we recommend
a reduction of $263 million
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to SCE's requested
increase of 513 million.
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In addition, based on the severe impacts
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customers are experiencing
due to the recent
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economic downturn associated
with COVID-19 pandemic,
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the Public Advocate's Office
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proposed a reduction of 125 million
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to SCE's 2020 capital
expenditure budget.
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Thank you. And we look
forward to all the comments.
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Thank you.
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Ms. Slider Pierre,
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are you ready to make a statement
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on behalf of Utility Reform Network?
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I am. And thank you.
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Good afternoon, my name
is Constance Slider Pierre
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C-O-N-S-T-A-N-C-E
S-L-I-D-E-R P-I-E-R-R-E.
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I am the organizing director for TURN
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The Utility Reform Network.
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TURN is a consumer advocacy organization
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that has been challenging
corporate greed
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and winning consumer
protection for over 40 years.
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I would like to first take a moment
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to thank Administrative Law
Judges, Park and Syebert,
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as well as Commissioner Shiroma
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for the opportunity to say a few words,
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to welcome members of the public.
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And to all who've joined the call
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to provide comments to
bear witness, I thank you.
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I do not have to tell any of you
00:21:52.700 --> 00:21:56.070
that we are in unprecedented time.
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The extreme circumstances
of a global pandemic
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have skyrocketed unemployment numbers
00:22:02.240 --> 00:22:05.993
to over 16% in California.
00:22:07.070 --> 00:22:11.220
And according to the USC
study published last month,
00:22:11.220 --> 00:22:15.990
one in seven California workers
have filed for unemployment
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and in LA County specifically,
00:22:18.790 --> 00:22:22.653
only 45% of residents
report holding a job.
00:22:24.320 --> 00:22:28.110
Global protest after the
murder of George Floyd
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usher in a new day,
00:22:30.000 --> 00:22:32.610
when all of us are called to examine
00:22:32.610 --> 00:22:34.940
and act with deeper awareness
00:22:34.940 --> 00:22:39.623
of how our actions and
decisions will impact people.
00:22:40.730 --> 00:22:44.860
The public outcry is clear
and will require all of us
00:22:44.860 --> 00:22:46.680
to live out loud and dig deeper
00:22:46.680 --> 00:22:49.900
to seek fair, equitable,
and just treatment
00:22:49.900 --> 00:22:53.473
for all of our people.
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TURN stand strong in its belief
00:22:57.520 --> 00:23:01.340
that electricity along with
food, shelter and water
00:23:01.340 --> 00:23:04.940
are basic necessities
and a human rights.
00:23:04.940 --> 00:23:06.210
We strongly believe
00:23:06.210 --> 00:23:08.950
that any approved
rate increase at this time
00:23:08.950 --> 00:23:12.010
is unacceptable and
would further cripple
00:23:12.010 --> 00:23:14.960
the resilient and aspiring families
00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:18.453
who are struggling now more than ever.
00:23:19.670 --> 00:23:23.213
This request is neither
balanced or prudent.
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Today's hearing serve as an opportunity
00:23:27.350 --> 00:23:30.480
to ensure that the lived
experiences of our community
00:23:30.480 --> 00:23:32.660
are heard and accounted for
00:23:32.660 --> 00:23:35.270
when our public servants deliberate
00:23:35.270 --> 00:23:38.053
and make decisions
that affect our daily lives.
00:23:39.770 --> 00:23:42.210
SCE's latest proposal will increase
00:23:42.210 --> 00:23:45.000
residential customers bills annually
00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:48.323
from 2020 through 2023.
00:23:49.260 --> 00:23:52.750
If approved, this increase
would be the largest
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single-rate increase any utility
00:23:55.420 --> 00:23:58.103
to have been granted by the CPUC.
00:23:59.400 --> 00:24:02.360
This rate increase would
stick SCE customers
00:24:02.360 --> 00:24:07.360
with the bill for $600
million in insurance premium
00:24:07.450 --> 00:24:12.083
to protect shareholders from
fires caused by SCE equipment.
00:24:14.360 --> 00:24:17.460
It would raise your monthly bill by $43
00:24:17.460 --> 00:24:21.070
or an average of $500 annually.
00:24:21.070 --> 00:24:26.070
And results in SCE customers
paying 40% more for energy
00:24:26.310 --> 00:24:27.920
while shareholders reaping
00:24:27.920 --> 00:24:31.543
a whopping 1.5 billion in profits.
00:24:32.790 --> 00:24:35.380
Translating these
increases to working hours
00:24:35.380 --> 00:24:37.470
and in the gig economy,
00:24:37.470 --> 00:24:39.930
minimum wage earners would have to work
00:24:39.930 --> 00:24:44.290
between six and eight
additional hours each month
00:24:44.290 --> 00:24:48.120
to pay for the same
number of kilowatt hours,
00:24:48.120 --> 00:24:50.653
roughly an additional day of shift work.
00:24:52.540 --> 00:24:54.430
During your testimony today,
00:24:54.430 --> 00:24:57.260
I encourage all of you to use your time
00:24:57.260 --> 00:25:01.760
to reflect on your experience
as a SCE customer.
00:25:01.760 --> 00:25:05.600
Tell the Commission how
current energy costs affect you,
00:25:05.600 --> 00:25:08.510
what trade-offs you
have been forced to make,
00:25:08.510 --> 00:25:11.850
what measures you have
had to take to reduce costs
00:25:11.850 --> 00:25:13.800
and conserve energy.
00:25:13.800 --> 00:25:17.160
And what additional trade-offs
you may be forced to make,
00:25:17.160 --> 00:25:18.600
if you are required to pay
00:25:18.600 --> 00:25:21.893
an additional $43 per month for energy.
00:25:23.210 --> 00:25:26.700
Finally, if you haven't
already signed up to speak,
00:25:26.700 --> 00:25:29.250
please consider doing so.
00:25:29.250 --> 00:25:32.620
I hope our statement
has provided some context
00:25:32.620 --> 00:25:36.570
and inspiration to you so
that you can lift up your voice
00:25:36.570 --> 00:25:38.310
and be heard today.
00:25:38.310 --> 00:25:39.143
Thank you.
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Thank you.
00:25:43.040 --> 00:25:46.210
We would now like to hear
from members of the public.
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If you wanna speak and
has not already done so,
00:25:49.430 --> 00:25:52.850
I invite you to press star
one on your phone now,
00:25:52.850 --> 00:25:55.613
and the operator will add
you to the queue of speakers.
00:25:56.500 --> 00:25:58.960
Each speaker will be
provided three minutes
00:25:58.960 --> 00:26:00.290
to provide comments
00:26:00.290 --> 00:26:03.363
and a chime will be sounded
when the three minutes is up.
00:26:04.280 --> 00:26:06.390
A reminder to all public speakers
00:26:06.390 --> 00:26:08.010
to please start by spelling
00:26:08.010 --> 00:26:11.130
your first and last name for the record.
00:26:11.130 --> 00:26:13.550
And to ensure that
we have a clean record,
00:26:13.550 --> 00:26:15.760
speak slowly and clearly,
00:26:15.760 --> 00:26:18.663
and try to refrain from
speaking on a speaker phone.
00:26:19.510 --> 00:26:22.070
With that, operator I
ask that you please
00:26:22.070 --> 00:26:24.020
call on the first speaker in the queue.
00:26:26.768 --> 00:26:29.320
There are no
questions in queue at this time.
00:26:29.320 --> 00:26:31.160
Again, if you would
like to ask a question,
00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:32.400
please press star one
00:26:32.400 --> 00:26:35.333
along with spelling
your first and last name.
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Judge Park, I'd like to
give it a few more moments
00:26:48.510 --> 00:26:51.390
to allow the general public
to please press star one
00:26:51.390 --> 00:26:53.290
if you would like to provide comments.
00:27:15.470 --> 00:27:16.930
Operator, double checking.
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Has there anybody?
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Is there anybody in the queue?
No.
00:27:20.290 --> 00:27:21.363
Not at the moment.
00:27:22.390 --> 00:27:23.223
Okay.
00:27:23.223 --> 00:27:25.360
If you'd
like make a comment,
00:27:25.360 --> 00:27:26.857
please press star one.
00:27:44.930 --> 00:27:47.080
I will give it a couple
of minutes, please.
00:27:53.070 --> 00:27:54.597
Your honor I'd
like to say a few things,
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reporter this is off the record,
00:27:56.140 --> 00:27:57.790
while we wait for public comment.
00:27:58.730 --> 00:27:59.893
Yes. Off the record.
00:28:02.470 --> 00:28:03.370
Thank you.
00:28:29.410 --> 00:28:30.440
Operator, just checking in.
00:28:30.440 --> 00:28:33.460
Do you have any speakers in queue?
00:28:33.460 --> 00:28:37.453
Yes. We have a
comment from Latashin Riles.
00:28:38.357 --> 00:28:39.190
Okay let's-
Your line's open.
00:28:39.190 --> 00:28:41.843
Let's go back on the record.
00:28:43.180 --> 00:28:45.733
Operator would you
please let in the first speaker.
00:28:46.760 --> 00:28:49.600
Latashin
Riles your line's open.
00:28:49.600 --> 00:28:50.620
Okay. Thank you so much.
00:28:50.620 --> 00:28:53.483
Thank you everyone for your time
00:28:53.483 --> 00:28:58.121
and thank you for the
opportunity to be able to speak.
00:28:58.121 --> 00:29:00.640
I apologize for interrupting,
00:29:00.640 --> 00:29:03.000
but will you please spell
your name for the record?
00:29:03.000 --> 00:29:04.440
Sure,
absolutely. Thank you.
00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:09.440
It's L-A-T-A-S-H-I-N, last
name, Riles, R-I-L-E-S as in Sam.
00:29:16.076 --> 00:29:16.909
Thank you.
00:29:18.140 --> 00:29:19.550
Again, thank
you so very much
00:29:19.550 --> 00:29:22.810
for taking the time to
hear our comments.
00:29:22.810 --> 00:29:26.800
And I was hoping there will
be a lot more people on as well,
00:29:26.800 --> 00:29:29.280
but I don't speak for everyone,
00:29:29.280 --> 00:29:31.840
but a little bit about about me.
00:29:31.840 --> 00:29:36.260
I am a single parent and
have one person income.
00:29:36.260 --> 00:29:39.100
I make about $16 an hour,
00:29:39.100 --> 00:29:42.400
not including any overtime
or anything like that.
00:29:42.400 --> 00:29:45.390
We talked about numbers
and my ultimate goal
00:29:45.390 --> 00:29:47.610
is to reduce my monthly expenses
00:29:47.610 --> 00:29:51.190
so that I can afford things like
00:29:52.220 --> 00:29:54.760
for my household, other
things except for bills.
00:29:54.760 --> 00:29:57.440
And it seems like all
we do is work for bills,
00:29:57.440 --> 00:30:02.440
especially if you're under a
certain annual amount a year.
00:30:03.520 --> 00:30:07.080
But these increases
are going to be impactful
00:30:07.080 --> 00:30:11.840
to my home personally, because again,
00:30:11.840 --> 00:30:14.640
especially with this whole
COVID-19 thing going on,
00:30:14.640 --> 00:30:18.660
I have been fortunate
to have my job still,
00:30:18.660 --> 00:30:21.630
but business has slowed
down for my company in general.
00:30:21.630 --> 00:30:25.170
So the overtime that
I rely on, I don't have.
00:30:25.170 --> 00:30:26.240
And moving forward,
00:30:26.240 --> 00:30:29.710
no one can say how long
we're gonna be in this pandemic.
00:30:29.710 --> 00:30:34.710
So, and any increase is
detrimental to my household,
00:30:35.110 --> 00:30:39.060
whether it is $5 or $34 a month.
00:30:39.060 --> 00:30:42.170
My ultimate goal is to like I said,
00:30:42.170 --> 00:30:45.150
get these bills reduced
as much as possible
00:30:45.150 --> 00:30:47.393
because I'm barely making ends meet.
00:30:48.419 --> 00:30:53.419
So, ideally it will impact
my family negatively,
00:30:55.970 --> 00:30:59.590
whether that be, cutting
down on grocery expenses
00:30:59.590 --> 00:31:01.330
or the other little amenities,
00:31:01.330 --> 00:31:04.280
like my candles that I like to buy
00:31:04.280 --> 00:31:06.540
and something so small.
00:31:06.540 --> 00:31:11.540
Doesn't seem big, but when
you're barely making it work.
00:31:13.630 --> 00:31:17.310
As it is every dollar counts.
00:31:17.310 --> 00:31:20.290
And I do apologize for
me getting a little emotional,
00:31:20.290 --> 00:31:24.910
but it's not a good time for families.
00:31:24.910 --> 00:31:26.960
And again, I don't speak for everybody
00:31:26.960 --> 00:31:30.930
just for my household and I'm a person
00:31:30.930 --> 00:31:33.880
who isn't on any type of
government assistance.
00:31:33.880 --> 00:31:38.880
So it's really sad to know
00:31:39.810 --> 00:31:41.960
that you're barely making it as it is.
00:31:41.960 --> 00:31:46.720
And you have to find a
way to make ends meet
00:31:46.720 --> 00:31:47.767
and you need electricity.
00:31:47.767 --> 00:31:49.540
And my son's home from school.
00:31:49.540 --> 00:31:55.210
So AC it has to be...
It's running a little more.
00:31:55.210 --> 00:31:56.043
So I have to figure out
00:31:56.043 --> 00:31:59.331
and insert that into my expenses now.
00:31:59.331 --> 00:32:00.414
So I'm sorry.
00:32:02.529 --> 00:32:05.113
(clears throat)
00:32:05.113 --> 00:32:08.680
I just really wish that
maybe if this is something
00:32:08.680 --> 00:32:13.060
that has to happen maybe
it come at a more ideal time.
00:32:13.060 --> 00:32:14.500
It's just not...
00:32:18.022 --> 00:32:21.880
It won't be fair to
random everyday people
00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:26.880
such as ourselves who
need electricity to survive.
00:32:28.080 --> 00:32:29.610
But we also need other things
00:32:29.610 --> 00:32:33.090
like food and clothes
and shoes for your kids.
00:32:33.090 --> 00:32:35.400
And we shouldn't
have to be in a position
00:32:35.400 --> 00:32:37.930
where we have to kinda choose or...
00:32:40.450 --> 00:32:43.913
Choose what bill we're
gonna have to push back
00:32:47.570 --> 00:32:52.570
or not pay in full
because of a necessity.
00:32:55.350 --> 00:32:56.450
But I guess that's it.
00:32:56.450 --> 00:32:58.370
Thank you very much for your time
00:32:58.370 --> 00:33:01.513
and allowing me to speak today.
00:33:03.340 --> 00:33:05.290
Thank you for your
comments Ms.Riles.
00:33:06.320 --> 00:33:07.570
Operator, will you please
00:33:07.570 --> 00:33:09.690
call on the next speaker in the queue.
00:33:09.690 --> 00:33:12.330
And also as a general
reminder to the speakers,
00:33:12.330 --> 00:33:14.804
please spell your first and last name
00:33:14.804 --> 00:33:17.087
before you provide comments. Thank you.
00:33:18.960 --> 00:33:20.540
If you would
like to ask a question,
00:33:20.540 --> 00:33:21.830
please press star one,
00:33:21.830 --> 00:33:24.550
along with spelling
your first and last name.
00:33:24.550 --> 00:33:27.813
Our next comment comes
from Dr. Pura Cordero.
00:33:29.020 --> 00:33:30.203
Your line is open.
00:33:32.040 --> 00:33:33.833
Thank you.
And can you hear me?
00:33:35.890 --> 00:33:36.890
Hello.
Thank you.
00:33:37.740 --> 00:33:39.450
Are you able to hear me?
00:33:39.450 --> 00:33:41.030
Yes. We hear you, thank you.
00:33:41.030 --> 00:33:43.170
Fabulous, okay.
My first name is Pura.
00:33:43.170 --> 00:33:46.156
P as in Paul, U-R-A.
00:33:46.156 --> 00:33:50.250
Last name is Cordero, C-O-R-D-E-R-O.
00:33:50.250 --> 00:33:53.930
And I live in the Central
Valley of California.
00:33:53.930 --> 00:33:57.400
I'm from a transplant
from West Los Angeles
00:33:57.400 --> 00:33:59.280
and the director of the
legal studies program
00:33:59.280 --> 00:34:01.420
here at the university college.
00:34:01.420 --> 00:34:04.700
I'm calling on behalf of a community.
00:34:04.700 --> 00:34:07.010
Not that they have me as
their speaker representative,
00:34:07.010 --> 00:34:10.210
but a community that has
been grossly underserved
00:34:10.210 --> 00:34:12.090
and underrepresented
for a very long time.
00:34:12.090 --> 00:34:16.060
We have a lot of farm labor.
00:34:16.060 --> 00:34:19.620
Agriculture is one of
our biggest industries.
00:34:19.620 --> 00:34:22.100
And when Mr. Snow was speaking,
00:34:22.100 --> 00:34:25.460
I completely respect his points.
00:34:25.460 --> 00:34:27.580
We know that it's quite critical
00:34:27.580 --> 00:34:31.770
and important to the
community to have utilities.
00:34:31.770 --> 00:34:36.180
But part of the three-tier
discussion that he presented
00:34:36.180 --> 00:34:40.770
safety, reliability, and
interaction with customers,
00:34:40.770 --> 00:34:42.270
that is part of doing business.
00:34:42.270 --> 00:34:44.880
When you're looking
at that minute amount,
00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.480
that he considers to be
$12 to the households
00:34:48.480 --> 00:34:50.370
and that means the people
who are not on CARE
00:34:50.370 --> 00:34:52.820
are qualified for any of the reductions
00:34:52.820 --> 00:34:56.350
that is $12 for, I believe
00:34:56.350 --> 00:35:01.270
that SCE has over 15 million customers.
00:35:01.270 --> 00:35:05.260
This is a crippling amount
of money for families
00:35:05.260 --> 00:35:09.687
who have nothing and a
huge profit and windfall of SCE.
00:35:11.000 --> 00:35:13.996
So I am only again,
brief comment about that.
00:35:13.996 --> 00:35:14.829
(clears throat)
00:35:14.829 --> 00:35:15.880
Excuse me. I, myself am suffering
00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.430
from a little bit of allergies.
00:35:17.430 --> 00:35:18.727
And I just want to state
00:35:18.727 --> 00:35:23.570
that this would be a
gross injustice at this time
00:35:23.570 --> 00:35:27.720
to allow this particular
increase to people
00:35:27.720 --> 00:35:31.050
who are as the young
lady who spoke prior to me
00:35:31.050 --> 00:35:35.920
who are living paycheck
to paycheck, day to day.
00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.780
So I'm hoping that
you look at this critically,
00:35:38.780 --> 00:35:42.210
and realize that even though
Mr. Snow is doing his job,
00:35:42.210 --> 00:35:44.820
it's not about
profiteering at this point.
00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:46.570
It's about humanity and taking care
00:35:46.570 --> 00:35:48.100
of those who have something.
00:35:48.100 --> 00:35:49.300
Thank you for your time.
00:35:50.400 --> 00:35:51.910
Thank you Dr. Pura.
00:35:51.910 --> 00:35:54.593
Operator will you please
queue in the next speaker.
00:35:55.840 --> 00:35:59.500
Our next comment
comes from Viky Avakian.
00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:00.683
Your line is open.
00:36:02.630 --> 00:36:04.230
Hi, can you hear me
00:36:06.400 --> 00:36:07.233
Yes.
00:36:07.233 --> 00:36:08.413
Hello, can you hear me?
00:36:09.360 --> 00:36:11.210
Yes. We hear you.
00:36:11.210 --> 00:36:13.880
My name is Viky, V-I-K-Y.
00:36:13.880 --> 00:36:18.880
Last name is Avakian, A-V-A-K-I-A-N.
00:36:19.060 --> 00:36:21.700
And I do thank everybody for giving us
00:36:21.700 --> 00:36:23.273
this opportunity to speak.
00:36:24.790 --> 00:36:29.790
I do have some concerns
about the amount of money
00:36:30.480 --> 00:36:35.480
that SCE is trying to raise the rate
00:36:35.950 --> 00:36:40.950
but it is very hard
now, during this time.
00:36:41.400 --> 00:36:44.270
It seems that everybody's
raising their rates
00:36:44.270 --> 00:36:48.230
because we're not making,
we're not meeting the goals.
00:36:48.230 --> 00:36:50.400
Companies are not meeting the goals.
00:36:50.400 --> 00:36:52.490
And when there is a potential layoff
00:36:52.490 --> 00:36:56.210
that we are trying to stay above,
00:36:56.210 --> 00:36:59.038
it makes it very hard for us to meet
00:36:59.038 --> 00:37:01.793
SCE recommended rate raises.
00:37:04.050 --> 00:37:08.350
I do use... I do my
laundry after six o'clock.
00:37:08.350 --> 00:37:10.120
I do them over the weekend.
00:37:10.120 --> 00:37:12.820
I try to turn off every
other electricity,
00:37:12.820 --> 00:37:17.063
pull every plug so that my
rate doesn't go up too high.
00:37:18.640 --> 00:37:23.640
I think my next way of living
is gonna be by candlelight.
00:37:24.010 --> 00:37:26.690
And it seems that
that's where we're going,
00:37:26.690 --> 00:37:31.500
because SCE keeps
raising rates all the time,
00:37:31.500 --> 00:37:35.883
and this is way too much
rate for anybody to have.
00:37:37.853 --> 00:37:38.686
So that's my comment.
00:37:38.686 --> 00:37:39.519
And thank you.
00:37:39.519 --> 00:37:41.760
It is gonna be very hard for everybody
00:37:41.760 --> 00:37:43.327
to meet that goal for SCE.
00:37:43.327 --> 00:37:46.950
And I do appreciate it
for SCE customer service,
00:37:46.950 --> 00:37:50.053
and I know you wanna
pay your employee salaries,
00:37:51.090 --> 00:37:52.590
but at the end of the day,
00:37:52.590 --> 00:37:54.070
are you gonna be able to help me
00:37:54.070 --> 00:37:57.713
pay off my monthly loan on my house?
00:37:59.290 --> 00:38:00.940
That's the question for SCE,
00:38:00.940 --> 00:38:03.393
are you gonna help
us out when we need it?
00:38:05.040 --> 00:38:06.257
Thank you again.
00:38:08.040 --> 00:38:09.810
Thank you, Ms. Avakian.
00:38:09.810 --> 00:38:13.141
Operator, will you please
call him the next speaker?
00:38:13.141 --> 00:38:15.553
Our next comment
comes from James Turner.
00:38:16.634 --> 00:38:18.727
Your line is open.
00:38:18.727 --> 00:38:20.570
Hello. My name is James Turner,
00:38:20.570 --> 00:38:24.006
J-A-M-E-S T-U-R-N-E-R.
00:38:24.006 --> 00:38:24.839
(clears throat)
00:38:24.839 --> 00:38:26.186
Excuse me.
00:38:26.186 --> 00:38:27.850
I hope you can hear me because
00:38:27.850 --> 00:38:30.620
I am suffering from Parkinson's
00:38:30.620 --> 00:38:33.923
and it's affected my vocal chords.
00:38:35.560 --> 00:38:39.697
But I'm retired and I
have a fixed income.
00:38:39.697 --> 00:38:41.983
And if I heard you enough and correctly,
00:38:42.980 --> 00:38:45.230
the first bump and raise is gonna
00:38:45.230 --> 00:38:49.270
create a 1.2 billion increased
high income for SCE,
00:38:50.230 --> 00:38:51.693
which is a staggering number.
00:38:54.430 --> 00:38:56.740
And I simply suggest that if
00:38:57.600 --> 00:39:00.830
you try to roll this out
over four to three years
00:39:00.830 --> 00:39:01.663
or four years.
00:39:02.563 --> 00:39:05.470
Don't try to make it
whole in the first year,
00:39:05.470 --> 00:39:08.630
especially the time when people
have uncertain surroundings,
00:39:08.630 --> 00:39:09.893
uncertain incomes.
00:39:14.000 --> 00:39:17.380
But instead of such a huge increase,
00:39:17.380 --> 00:39:19.880
18% the first time, first year
00:39:20.950 --> 00:39:22.890
add only 12% or so,
00:39:22.890 --> 00:39:25.290
second, third, and fourth year.
00:39:25.290 --> 00:39:28.820
When I was a little
more evenly distributed,
00:39:28.820 --> 00:39:31.710
especially second guessing
what their needs will be
00:39:31.710 --> 00:39:33.290
further down the line.
00:39:33.290 --> 00:39:35.203
It seems to me, you're trying to,
00:39:36.411 --> 00:39:39.000
at one point to increase initially,
00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:41.523
and you're trying to create a pedal
00:39:41.523 --> 00:39:43.523
that will give you a good night's sleep.
00:39:45.290 --> 00:39:47.093
Because what happens in the future.
00:39:49.020 --> 00:39:49.853
And I recognize you
00:39:49.853 --> 00:39:52.653
can't go back to the
Commission every year,
00:39:53.590 --> 00:39:56.480
but over prudence on your part
would be helpful to everybody
00:39:56.480 --> 00:39:57.970
at this time.
00:39:57.970 --> 00:39:58.803
Thank you for your time
00:39:58.803 --> 00:40:00.810
and your consideration for my remarks.
00:40:00.810 --> 00:40:04.197
I hope I spoke loud enough
for everybody to hear.
00:40:04.197 --> 00:40:05.030
Thank you.
00:40:06.569 --> 00:40:07.769
Thank you, Mr. Turner.
00:40:08.650 --> 00:40:10.910
Operator, when you please
call on the next speaker,
00:40:10.910 --> 00:40:13.267
and also just as a general reminder,
00:40:13.267 --> 00:40:16.590
please start by spelling
your first and last name.
00:40:16.590 --> 00:40:19.630
And if you wouldn't mind
giving your city location
00:40:19.630 --> 00:40:21.670
for our record, that
would also be helpful.
00:40:21.670 --> 00:40:22.503
Thank you.
00:40:24.540 --> 00:40:26.610
If you like
to make a comment,
00:40:26.610 --> 00:40:27.930
please press star one,
00:40:27.930 --> 00:40:30.550
along with spelling
your first and last name,
00:40:30.550 --> 00:40:33.120
along with your city and location.
00:40:33.120 --> 00:40:35.430
Our next question
comes from Berah Taylor.
00:40:35.430 --> 00:40:36.463
Your line is open.
00:40:39.616 --> 00:40:40.580
Good afternoon,
00:40:40.580 --> 00:40:42.523
and thank you for taking public comment.
00:40:42.523 --> 00:40:45.440
I wish to thank everybody involved.
00:40:46.350 --> 00:40:48.400
My name is Berah Taylor.
00:40:48.400 --> 00:40:53.400
That's B-E-R-A-H, Taylor, T-A-Y-L-O-R.
00:40:53.710 --> 00:40:55.753
And I live in Lake Forest, California.
00:40:58.060 --> 00:41:01.460
My house rate is far
from this rate increase
00:41:04.642 --> 00:41:06.040
this several times,
the rate of inflation.
00:41:06.040 --> 00:41:09.283
And I doubt I'm going to be commensurate
00:41:10.840 --> 00:41:12.810
increase in my salary
00:41:12.810 --> 00:41:16.980
is that we're gonna have to
reduce the electricity usage.
00:41:16.980 --> 00:41:21.590
And common sense would
tell me that most people do this.
00:41:21.590 --> 00:41:24.780
And SCE is not gonna realize
00:41:24.780 --> 00:41:26.550
an income increase from it.
00:41:26.550 --> 00:41:29.090
They're just gonna realize the deduction
00:41:29.090 --> 00:41:32.400
and the sale of their product.
00:41:32.400 --> 00:41:36.190
The second fact I
have is that electricity
00:41:36.190 --> 00:41:40.460
really is the basic need in our society.
00:41:40.460 --> 00:41:45.460
And if SCE is going to
require rate increases
00:41:46.160 --> 00:41:51.160
of this magnitude and
especially in times like this,
00:41:51.260 --> 00:41:54.050
then maybe the public
would be better served
00:41:54.050 --> 00:41:58.680
if SCE was made instead
of a private company
00:41:58.680 --> 00:42:01.040
that maybe it was publicized
00:42:02.282 --> 00:42:03.800
and taken over by the government
00:42:03.800 --> 00:42:07.001
and run by the people
and for the people.
00:42:07.001 --> 00:42:10.720
And we could take the shareholders
00:42:10.720 --> 00:42:14.210
and then the profit demands
that they're plaintiff owners
00:42:14.210 --> 00:42:15.410
out of the equation.
00:42:15.410 --> 00:42:17.740
And then maybe we could help people
00:42:17.740 --> 00:42:21.330
with supplying the space they need.
00:42:21.330 --> 00:42:23.507
Again, thank you for listening to me
00:42:23.507 --> 00:42:24.943
and I appreciate the time.
00:42:26.740 --> 00:42:27.940
Thank you, Mr. Taylor.
00:42:28.800 --> 00:42:32.143
Operator, will you please
call on the next speaker?
00:42:32.143 --> 00:42:35.630
Our next comment
comes from Jerry Miller,
00:42:35.630 --> 00:42:37.300
Orange County, California.
00:42:37.300 --> 00:42:38.283
Your line is open.
00:42:40.620 --> 00:42:41.900
My name is Jerry Miller,
00:42:41.900 --> 00:42:46.900
J-E-R-R-Y, M-I-L-L-E-R.
00:42:47.800 --> 00:42:49.993
I live in Orange, California.
00:42:51.520 --> 00:42:55.340
I just got off of three-months layoff
00:42:56.420 --> 00:43:01.420
and to go back to work, I
had to take a 25% cut in pay.
00:43:03.160 --> 00:43:08.160
And already monitoring my electricity,
00:43:10.087 --> 00:43:13.475
Get your flyers (indistinct)
00:43:13.475 --> 00:43:15.323
more efficient and most efficient.
00:43:17.530 --> 00:43:18.363
Excuse me Judge,
00:43:18.363 --> 00:43:19.443
This is the court reporter,
00:43:20.404 --> 00:43:21.300
I need to off the record.
00:43:21.300 --> 00:43:23.073
Let's go off the record.
00:43:24.750 --> 00:43:25.583
I'm having trouble
00:43:25.583 --> 00:43:27.150
understanding this speaker.
00:43:27.150 --> 00:43:28.610
I'm not sure what is happening,
00:43:28.610 --> 00:43:30.330
but the voice is going in and out.
00:43:30.330 --> 00:43:31.823
So I can't hear everything.
00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:34.010
Okay. Sorry, Mr. Miller,
00:43:34.010 --> 00:43:36.010
can I ask you to try and speak directly
00:43:36.010 --> 00:43:38.370
into the voice piece of the phone?
00:43:38.370 --> 00:43:39.280
Yes, you can.
00:43:39.280 --> 00:43:40.113
Thank you.
00:43:40.113 --> 00:43:42.270
Okay. Sorry I know
the remote hearing
00:43:42.270 --> 00:43:43.690
to begin with is a little challenging,
00:43:43.690 --> 00:43:46.000
so I appreciate your patience.
00:43:46.000 --> 00:43:47.400
Let's go back on the record.
00:43:48.490 --> 00:43:49.323
Okay.
00:43:51.720 --> 00:43:53.593
Well, I live in Orange, California,
00:43:54.610 --> 00:43:58.233
and I just got off the
three-month layoff.
00:43:59.520 --> 00:44:00.870
And to go back to work,
00:44:00.870 --> 00:44:04.163
I had to take a 22.5% cut in pay.
00:44:06.699 --> 00:44:10.707
The COVID-19 really hurt
the company and for survival,
00:44:11.850 --> 00:44:14.090
you need to now cut needs
00:44:15.050 --> 00:44:18.333
and this rating condition
is going to hurt me.
00:44:19.170 --> 00:44:21.883
And I'm already almost in the top.
00:44:22.720 --> 00:44:25.160
Especially when you got your bills.
00:44:25.160 --> 00:44:29.193
I'm 30% more efficient
than most efficient neighbors.
00:44:30.470 --> 00:44:33.250
And so to cut more electricity to say,
00:44:33.250 --> 00:44:34.623
it's going to be difficult.
00:44:35.900 --> 00:44:38.730
And the rate increase
is really going to hurt.
00:44:38.730 --> 00:44:40.980
I'm already hurt me with the pay cut
00:44:41.930 --> 00:44:44.523
and gas prices are going to go up.
00:44:45.460 --> 00:44:48.110
And this is gonna be really
hard for the people here.
00:44:50.710 --> 00:44:54.270
I just that's it, I guess.
00:44:54.270 --> 00:44:55.633
Thank you for your time.
00:44:56.470 --> 00:44:57.920
Thank you Mr. Miller.
00:44:58.870 --> 00:45:00.920
Operator, please call our next speaker
00:45:00.920 --> 00:45:03.370
and just a general
reminder for all the speakers.
00:45:03.370 --> 00:45:06.450
Please spell your first and
last name and provide your city.
00:45:06.450 --> 00:45:07.283
Thank you.
00:45:08.150 --> 00:45:09.710
If you would
like to make a comment,
00:45:09.710 --> 00:45:10.970
please press star one,
00:45:10.970 --> 00:45:13.220
along with spelling
your first and last name,
00:45:13.220 --> 00:45:16.000
as well as your city and location.
00:45:16.000 --> 00:45:18.047
Our next question comes
from Josephine Williams.
00:45:18.047 --> 00:45:19.433
Your line is open.
00:45:21.200 --> 00:45:23.690
Josephine Williams,
00:45:23.690 --> 00:45:28.690
J-O-S-E-P-H-I-N-E,
00:45:30.520 --> 00:45:35.280
W-I-L-L-I-A-M-S,
00:45:36.220 --> 00:45:39.170
Rancho Cucamonga.
00:45:39.170 --> 00:45:44.170
I'm simply appalled
that SCE would dare ask
00:45:44.340 --> 00:45:49.340
for such more large increases
in times such as these.
00:45:50.430 --> 00:45:55.430
I just always wonder, besides
just asking for increases,
00:45:55.430 --> 00:46:00.430
does SCE ever look outside the box?
00:46:01.130 --> 00:46:06.130
And come up with different
ways to increase their income.
00:46:06.930 --> 00:46:11.930
People are suffering severely
especially in these times,
00:46:12.560 --> 00:46:17.560
and it is incredible that they would ask
00:46:18.200 --> 00:46:21.780
for such a large increase.
00:46:21.780 --> 00:46:25.360
It's just not possible.
00:46:25.360 --> 00:46:29.180
And I hope that Edison will look outside
00:46:29.180 --> 00:46:31.300
the box for other ways,
00:46:31.300 --> 00:46:35.606
rather than having people
to struggle even more.
00:46:35.606 --> 00:46:36.439
Thank you.
00:46:38.260 --> 00:46:39.940
Thank you, Ms. Williams.
00:46:39.940 --> 00:46:42.083
Operator, please call
on the next speaker.
00:46:44.350 --> 00:46:47.600
Next comment
comes from James Jackson.
00:46:47.600 --> 00:46:48.693
Your line is open.
00:46:50.920 --> 00:46:53.700
Yes, this is James Jackson,
00:46:53.700 --> 00:46:58.700
That J-A-M-E-S, Jackson, J-A-C-K-S-O-N.
00:47:00.230 --> 00:47:01.943
Palmdale, California.
00:47:03.200 --> 00:47:08.200
My concern I have on
your increases rate is
00:47:08.250 --> 00:47:10.370
we're listening to a lot of people
00:47:10.370 --> 00:47:12.400
that barely are making ends meet,
00:47:12.400 --> 00:47:15.397
but what I looked at the
executive salaries of SCE.
00:47:18.260 --> 00:47:21.700
I see all of them raise around
about a million dollars each.
00:47:21.700 --> 00:47:24.420
I don't think they're feeling the pinch
00:47:24.420 --> 00:47:27.570
that a lot of us do
when it comes to this.
00:47:27.570 --> 00:47:32.490
Also, when you compare
our prices to that other states,
00:47:32.490 --> 00:47:36.320
we are we're the sixth
most expensive state
00:47:36.320 --> 00:47:39.910
in the whole United
States the cost of electricity.
00:47:39.910 --> 00:47:42.410
There's definitely a problem there.
00:47:42.410 --> 00:47:45.850
I think that someone needs
to really look into the reasoning
00:47:45.850 --> 00:47:48.920
why we have to charge
so much more as a state
00:47:49.970 --> 00:47:53.540
for our electricity as
compared to other states
00:47:53.540 --> 00:47:55.820
throughout the country.
00:47:55.820 --> 00:47:59.270
There's a lot of reasons
here as to why we're saying,
00:47:59.270 --> 00:48:01.300
why do we need another rate increase?
00:48:01.300 --> 00:48:03.280
When it seems to me
there's plenty of money
00:48:03.280 --> 00:48:05.873
being made out there right now.
00:48:06.857 --> 00:48:08.757
And there's a lot of money that SCE...
00:48:11.740 --> 00:48:14.460
that Edison is making right now.
00:48:14.460 --> 00:48:16.410
So I think this is not...
00:48:16.410 --> 00:48:19.760
And with all of the issues
that are going on right now,
00:48:19.760 --> 00:48:22.720
I think that the people
you're hearing from
00:48:22.720 --> 00:48:26.750
think it's very important
to consider the fact that,
00:48:26.750 --> 00:48:29.977
well, why do we really
need this much extra money?
00:48:29.977 --> 00:48:32.370
And why should we have to be the ones
00:48:32.370 --> 00:48:34.550
carrying such a high burden,
00:48:34.550 --> 00:48:37.870
even compared to the
rest of the nation too?
00:48:37.870 --> 00:48:42.260
It's kind of concerning,
very concerning there on that.
00:48:42.260 --> 00:48:43.860
I think in a lot of ways,
00:48:43.860 --> 00:48:46.930
you should looked at
ways that we can do better
00:48:46.930 --> 00:48:50.660
at our electric costs.
00:48:50.660 --> 00:48:53.838
I mean, if other states
can do it for half our cost,
00:48:53.838 --> 00:48:56.200
what's the issue there?
00:48:56.200 --> 00:48:59.440
Why can't we find out
why you can't do better
00:48:59.440 --> 00:49:01.640
and even reduce our rates.
00:49:01.640 --> 00:49:04.550
So those are my concerns and my comments
00:49:04.550 --> 00:49:09.550
based upon what I see Edison...
00:49:10.280 --> 00:49:12.860
The approach to the
way they're doing things.
00:49:12.860 --> 00:49:14.900
It just doesn't make a lot of sense,
00:49:14.900 --> 00:49:16.930
especially at a time right now
00:49:16.930 --> 00:49:20.320
when everybody's going through
so much struggle and trouble.
00:49:20.320 --> 00:49:22.210
So, I mean that's my comment.
00:49:22.210 --> 00:49:23.823
Thank you for hearing me, bye.
00:49:25.170 --> 00:49:26.373
Thank you Mr. Jackson.
00:49:27.410 --> 00:49:29.510
Operator, please call
in the next speaker.
00:49:30.954 --> 00:49:33.220
Our next comment
comes from Gavin ward.
00:49:33.220 --> 00:49:34.463
Your line is open.
00:49:36.630 --> 00:49:37.463
Good evening.
00:49:37.463 --> 00:49:40.233
If someone could just reply
to let me know that I'm heard.
00:49:42.560 --> 00:49:44.602
You're coming
through. Thank you.
00:49:44.602 --> 00:49:45.820
Great. Thank you.
00:49:45.820 --> 00:49:51.750
I'm Gavin Ward, G-A-V-I-N,
W-A-R-D, Temple City.
00:49:51.750 --> 00:49:55.530
I Just want to acknowledge
that folks have invested.
00:49:55.530 --> 00:49:58.080
And So Cal Edison, their
investors who put down their money
00:49:58.080 --> 00:50:00.917
to build this great
service of electricity.
00:50:00.917 --> 00:50:03.610
And I wanna acknowledge,
I appreciate that
00:50:03.610 --> 00:50:06.410
and understand as a
part of taking on that risk
00:50:06.410 --> 00:50:08.374
of spending your own
money to build the company,
00:50:08.374 --> 00:50:10.990
there has to be a return on investment.
00:50:10.990 --> 00:50:13.320
And I acknowledge that I respect it.
00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:15.480
And as a rate payer myself,
00:50:15.480 --> 00:50:18.070
I'm okay with Southern
California Edison making a profit
00:50:18.070 --> 00:50:21.430
because people have taken
on risk to build this company.
00:50:21.430 --> 00:50:23.530
My concern is more on the solar side.
00:50:23.530 --> 00:50:26.190
I just installed solar on my home.
00:50:26.190 --> 00:50:29.950
And based on previous rate models,
00:50:29.950 --> 00:50:32.810
I was looking at saving
significant money.
00:50:32.810 --> 00:50:36.050
Unfortunately, So Cal Edison
in the revenue shortage,
00:50:36.050 --> 00:50:41.050
as more people turn to
solar and generate or use
00:50:41.460 --> 00:50:43.843
So Cal Edison electricity less.
00:50:44.850 --> 00:50:46.980
In a way to generate additional revenue
00:50:46.980 --> 00:50:49.320
there are signs of mandatory fees
00:50:49.320 --> 00:50:53.580
on folks who may
use net zero electricity.
00:50:53.580 --> 00:50:54.860
And I understand you need
00:50:54.860 --> 00:50:57.070
to find additional revenue streams.
00:50:57.070 --> 00:51:01.150
My ask to the State
of California is that
00:51:01.150 --> 00:51:04.410
that is made very clear on our bills
00:51:04.410 --> 00:51:07.660
as to the why behind mandatory fees,
00:51:07.660 --> 00:51:09.310
including one city in California,
00:51:09.310 --> 00:51:12.400
that I read has a $65 minimum charges
00:51:12.400 --> 00:51:13.610
in the rural part of California.
00:51:13.610 --> 00:51:15.750
I don't know if that's true or not,
00:51:15.750 --> 00:51:17.423
but that's my ask to the state
00:51:18.420 --> 00:51:21.530
is that they make our bills very clear
00:51:21.530 --> 00:51:23.690
and including us, solar customers
00:51:23.690 --> 00:51:26.050
who have invested in a product
00:51:26.050 --> 00:51:30.380
that may not yield to
savings in future rate models.
00:51:30.380 --> 00:51:33.120
So that's my request to
the state and to the judges
00:51:33.120 --> 00:51:34.910
that whatever deal
you guys come up with,
00:51:34.910 --> 00:51:37.370
you make the bills very clear
00:51:37.370 --> 00:51:39.850
and perhaps on the
electric version of the bill,
00:51:39.850 --> 00:51:42.700
a clickable option to really understand
00:51:42.700 --> 00:51:45.050
what each line item is our bills.
00:51:45.050 --> 00:51:46.390
Thank you guys for listening.
00:51:46.390 --> 00:51:49.090
Thank you for the service
that So Cal Edison provides.
00:51:51.120 --> 00:51:52.910
Thank you, Mr. Ward.
00:51:52.910 --> 00:51:55.450
A general reminder that
I will continue to repeat
00:51:55.450 --> 00:51:58.230
speakers, please spell
your first and last name
00:51:58.230 --> 00:52:01.450
when joining in indicate
the city you calling from.
00:52:01.450 --> 00:52:04.263
Operator, please call
on the next question.
00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:10.153
Our next comment
comes from Sheila Goldberg
00:52:10.153 --> 00:52:12.330
our next comment comes
from Sheila Goldberg.
00:52:12.330 --> 00:52:13.830
Your line is open.
00:52:21.779 --> 00:52:24.279
Ms. Goldberg, are you there?
00:52:26.707 --> 00:52:28.710
Our next comment
comes from Jeanelle Harris.
00:52:28.710 --> 00:52:29.783
Your line is open.
00:52:30.620 --> 00:52:33.200
Yes. Hi,
this is Jeanelle Harris.
00:52:33.200 --> 00:52:34.660
My name is spelled Jeanelle,
00:52:34.660 --> 00:52:39.660
J-E-A-N-E-L-L, Harris, H-A-R-R-I-S.
00:52:39.730 --> 00:52:42.280
I hope then that I am being heard.
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.470
I will move on assuming that.
00:52:44.470 --> 00:52:48.330
I speak on behalf of
unfortunately the retired,
00:52:48.330 --> 00:52:50.920
I won't say unfortunate, but the retired
00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:53.900
and in many cases, some
of us are on fixed incomes
00:52:53.900 --> 00:52:57.740
and this epidemic has
affected us and many others
00:52:57.740 --> 00:52:59.870
in an enormous way.
00:52:59.870 --> 00:53:02.700
I am totally in
agreement with Mrs. Riles
00:53:02.700 --> 00:53:05.080
and as well as Mr. Williams
and many others,
00:53:05.080 --> 00:53:06.713
who've spoken before.
00:53:06.713 --> 00:53:08.880
As well as the last
gentleman just spoke about
00:53:08.880 --> 00:53:13.760
how then can SCE help us help them
00:53:13.760 --> 00:53:17.960
in thinking outside the
box in other ways, too.
00:53:17.960 --> 00:53:19.547
Some companies have
gone outside of the box
00:53:19.547 --> 00:53:20.700
and thinking of the ways,
00:53:20.700 --> 00:53:23.120
how they can save money, be creative.
00:53:23.120 --> 00:53:25.040
They come in other ways
00:53:25.040 --> 00:53:27.970
that they can find other means to...
00:53:27.970 --> 00:53:30.990
I understand they need revenues
00:53:30.990 --> 00:53:33.040
in order to continue to work.
00:53:33.040 --> 00:53:34.540
But at this particular time,
00:53:34.540 --> 00:53:36.630
we all need to think outside of the box.
00:53:36.630 --> 00:53:38.930
How then can we get
through this epidemic
00:53:38.930 --> 00:53:42.490
without causing additional
hurt to those people
00:53:42.490 --> 00:53:44.130
who are on fixed income?
00:53:44.130 --> 00:53:47.270
And as a young man that
was spoke, he's lost 21%.
00:53:47.270 --> 00:53:50.530
I believe that his income
having to go back to work
00:53:50.530 --> 00:53:52.930
and he's not alone,
there are many peoples.
00:53:52.930 --> 00:53:53.950
We're...
00:53:53.950 --> 00:53:56.080
this is an extraordinary,
difficult time,
00:53:56.080 --> 00:53:58.820
never before have we ever
experienced such things.
00:53:58.820 --> 00:54:03.380
And then to consider raising
the cost of our electricity,
00:54:03.380 --> 00:54:06.060
which we all need, so vital to everyone.
00:54:06.060 --> 00:54:08.570
I just think we need to
stop and pause a minute.
00:54:08.570 --> 00:54:12.320
We'll dealing with human
beings on the end of this need,
00:54:12.320 --> 00:54:13.430
who needs this stuff.
00:54:13.430 --> 00:54:15.830
This is what we need in order to live.
00:54:15.830 --> 00:54:16.760
And they're human beings.
00:54:16.760 --> 00:54:19.480
This is it just not
numbers they're people,
00:54:19.480 --> 00:54:20.820
families on the end of it.
00:54:20.820 --> 00:54:22.240
How then can we help?
00:54:22.240 --> 00:54:24.890
On a district we need
to reconsider that.
00:54:24.890 --> 00:54:27.100
And I that's my take on that.
00:54:27.100 --> 00:54:30.940
And I was working
part time and due to...
00:54:30.940 --> 00:54:35.040
And had to do that being
retired and on a limited income.
00:54:35.040 --> 00:54:37.770
And that part time job was taken away
00:54:37.770 --> 00:54:41.010
due to the coronavirus.
00:54:41.010 --> 00:54:44.530
It was affected extremely
so now it's even more difficult.
00:54:44.530 --> 00:54:47.360
And the requirements you
have to live on every day,
00:54:47.360 --> 00:54:49.830
the food and your electric
bill and your water bill
00:54:49.830 --> 00:54:52.010
and all those things still come.
00:54:52.010 --> 00:54:54.280
But an increase is
already difficult to not,
00:54:54.280 --> 00:54:57.200
but an increase is totally unmanageable.
00:54:57.200 --> 00:55:00.870
So I hope and plead that
they will reconsider to do that.
00:55:00.870 --> 00:55:04.450
And that's my take on that
and I appreciate your time.
00:55:04.450 --> 00:55:05.283
Thank you.
00:55:06.190 --> 00:55:08.040
Thank you Ms.Harris.
00:55:08.040 --> 00:55:10.163
Operator, please call
on the next speaker.
00:55:11.440 --> 00:55:14.184
Our next comment
comes from Joyce Cathcart.
00:55:14.184 --> 00:55:15.684
Your line is open.
00:55:18.017 --> 00:55:20.044
Hello. My
name is Joyce Cathcart
00:55:20.044 --> 00:55:26.150
it's spelled J-O-Y-C-E,
C-A-T-H-C-A-R-T.
00:55:26.150 --> 00:55:29.023
And I am a third-year
resident of Newport Beach.
00:55:29.880 --> 00:55:32.270
I'm in the real estate industry.
00:55:32.270 --> 00:55:34.950
And obviously everyone knows
00:55:34.950 --> 00:55:38.160
how that's affecting our income
00:55:38.160 --> 00:55:42.060
pretty substantially for a long time.
00:55:42.060 --> 00:55:46.430
Totally all this year and
part of last year actually.
00:55:46.430 --> 00:55:49.140
I don't have any air conditioning,
00:55:49.140 --> 00:55:52.650
so I don't use a lot of utilities,
00:55:52.650 --> 00:55:55.320
but my bills keep going up.
00:55:55.320 --> 00:56:00.320
And I like Mr. Jackson's
comment and suggestion
00:56:01.710 --> 00:56:04.540
of checking with other states
00:56:04.540 --> 00:56:06.490
that are less expensive than we are.
00:56:06.490 --> 00:56:07.323
If we're the...
00:56:08.910 --> 00:56:11.180
We're the most expensive state
00:56:11.180 --> 00:56:14.440
that I know of to live
in for many things,
00:56:14.440 --> 00:56:19.440
gas prices and taxes and groceries.
00:56:22.160 --> 00:56:26.850
For us to be the highest price
00:56:26.850 --> 00:56:31.850
or within the sixth
highest price of electricity
00:56:32.220 --> 00:56:34.241
and then have increases.
00:56:34.241 --> 00:56:38.690
It doesn't make any sense to me.
00:56:38.690 --> 00:56:42.480
I like his idea of
comparing with other states
00:56:42.480 --> 00:56:45.000
is to what their success cases.
00:56:45.000 --> 00:56:47.233
What are they doing
that we're not doing?
00:56:48.120 --> 00:56:53.000
And analyze that and for safety.
00:56:53.000 --> 00:56:55.440
I think safety is the
most important thing
00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:59.730
of all the three increments
that was mentioned.
00:56:59.730 --> 00:57:02.660
But I think that there
must be other ways
00:57:02.660 --> 00:57:04.820
that we can achieve that and accomplish
00:57:04.820 --> 00:57:06.830
that other sources of revenue.
00:57:06.830 --> 00:57:10.013
Are we getting any revenue
from the federal government?
00:57:11.790 --> 00:57:15.110
So I appreciate the opportunity to talk.
00:57:15.110 --> 00:57:20.110
I think this increase
amount is very high.
00:57:20.397 --> 00:57:25.397
It's almost ludicrous
and I'm still not clear
00:57:26.570 --> 00:57:30.977
as to what exactly is gonna do about...
00:57:30.977 --> 00:57:33.720
What this is gonna do for our safety
00:57:33.720 --> 00:57:37.490
and in our customer
interaction, what does that mean?
00:57:37.490 --> 00:57:39.163
It doesn't mean a lot to me,
00:57:40.320 --> 00:57:44.540
but it would if it... If
you were to say that
00:57:44.540 --> 00:57:48.340
it would mean that instead of
waiting online for 20 minutes,
00:57:48.340 --> 00:57:51.780
or my bills would be clear,
00:57:51.780 --> 00:57:56.483
or the calls would be answered quickly.
00:57:57.963 --> 00:58:01.180
I just had a tethered
outing from four o'clock
00:58:01.180 --> 00:58:02.640
till 12 o'clock at night.
00:58:02.640 --> 00:58:04.380
And one of the crews came out
00:58:04.380 --> 00:58:06.100
and they said, we don't know what it is.
00:58:06.100 --> 00:58:08.250
We think it might be the switch.
00:58:08.250 --> 00:58:09.890
So I asked her, are you gonna fix it?
00:58:09.890 --> 00:58:12.860
And they said, "Well no,
because the fix that crew,
00:58:12.860 --> 00:58:15.100
we just in here
checking out what it is."
00:58:15.100 --> 00:58:17.480
So we think they'll
come out pretty soon.
00:58:17.480 --> 00:58:18.700
Well, they did pretty soon,
00:58:18.700 --> 00:58:23.420
but the equipment seems to be fairly new
00:58:23.420 --> 00:58:24.840
and they keep replacing things.
00:58:24.840 --> 00:58:28.770
So I'm not satisfied
00:58:28.770 --> 00:58:33.070
that we're doing the best job
we can with what we have now.
00:58:33.070 --> 00:58:36.080
I'd like to have more
appreciation for that.
00:58:36.080 --> 00:58:38.210
And I appreciate all
everyone's comments.
00:58:38.210 --> 00:58:39.460
I agree with most everyone.
00:58:39.460 --> 00:58:41.873
And thank you for letting me speak.
00:58:43.540 --> 00:58:45.920
Thank you Ms. Cathcart.
00:58:45.920 --> 00:58:48.730
Operator, please call
on our next speaker.
00:58:48.730 --> 00:58:50.800
Okay. As a reminder,
00:58:50.800 --> 00:58:52.410
if you would like to make a comment,
00:58:52.410 --> 00:58:53.910
please press star one,
00:58:53.910 --> 00:58:56.940
along with spelling
your first and last name,
00:58:56.940 --> 00:58:59.520
as well as your city and location.
00:58:59.520 --> 00:59:02.360
Our next question comment
comes from Anna Devera.
00:59:02.360 --> 00:59:03.463
Your line is open.
00:59:10.850 --> 00:59:11.960
Yes. Hi, I'm sorry.
00:59:11.960 --> 00:59:16.960
This is Ana Ribera, A-N-A, D-E-V-E-R-A.
00:59:17.790 --> 00:59:20.353
And I live in Hoopa Valley, California.
00:59:21.790 --> 00:59:23.520
And like what most people said,
00:59:23.520 --> 00:59:28.520
this is not the best
time since the pandemic.
00:59:30.830 --> 00:59:35.830
And most of the jobs
are getting furloughed
00:59:36.310 --> 00:59:41.267
or having minimal minimum time to work.
00:59:43.160 --> 00:59:48.160
And in my case, I have
already a solar panel,
00:59:50.120 --> 00:59:54.100
but it still doesn't help
because everything...
00:59:54.100 --> 00:59:57.943
I still have a high
accumulation of electricity.
00:59:59.270 --> 01:00:02.140
Due to the pandemic we
have to work from home
01:00:02.140 --> 01:00:06.963
and my kids have to
do a distance learning.
01:00:07.950 --> 01:00:11.170
So I hope you guys take a consideration,
01:00:11.170 --> 01:00:14.671
not to do the increase at this time.
01:00:14.671 --> 01:00:16.931
Thank you.
01:00:16.931 --> 01:00:18.760
Thank you, Ms.Devera.
01:00:18.760 --> 01:00:21.662
Operator, please call
him the next speaker.
01:00:21.662 --> 01:00:24.110
Our next comment
comes from Shavanda Christmas.
01:00:24.110 --> 01:00:25.153
Your line is open.
01:00:28.890 --> 01:00:32.330
Hello, this
is Shavanda Christmas.
01:00:32.330 --> 01:00:37.330
S-H-A-V. Victor O-N Nancy D, David A.
01:00:39.670 --> 01:00:42.240
Last name Christmas,
just like the holiday.
01:00:42.240 --> 01:00:46.910
C-H-R-I-S-T-M-A-S.
01:00:49.470 --> 01:00:52.980
So thanks for allowing me to speak.
01:00:52.980 --> 01:00:55.720
I do agree with many
of the other speakers,
01:00:55.720 --> 01:00:58.280
but I comes from a
different perspective.
01:00:58.280 --> 01:01:03.280
I'm fully employed,
I have regular bills,
01:01:03.285 --> 01:01:06.430
I could afford to pay the fee,
01:01:06.430 --> 01:01:08.790
the additional fee that's added.
01:01:08.790 --> 01:01:13.790
However, I do think
that it is non redundant
01:01:13.980 --> 01:01:17.550
to continue to ask those who you serve
01:01:17.550 --> 01:01:20.420
to increase the amount
and they're paying
01:01:20.420 --> 01:01:22.820
for the same level of service.
01:01:22.820 --> 01:01:25.890
You mentioned that this
might with increase the service,
01:01:25.890 --> 01:01:27.890
but it really does not.
01:01:27.890 --> 01:01:30.180
We still have long delays on phone calls
01:01:30.180 --> 01:01:32.000
and we need response.
01:01:32.000 --> 01:01:35.380
We still have wait times that exceed
01:01:35.380 --> 01:01:40.110
what is quite and quite
normal or necessary
01:01:40.110 --> 01:01:42.860
for fixes things that
need to be repaired
01:01:42.860 --> 01:01:45.230
or things that need to be just assessed
01:01:45.230 --> 01:01:47.010
before it gets repaired.
01:01:47.010 --> 01:01:48.943
As one of the speakers just noted.
01:01:49.890 --> 01:01:54.670
It would be very
considerate that you would
01:01:54.670 --> 01:01:58.410
at least consider the proportion,
01:01:58.410 --> 01:02:00.849
a proportional approach to folks
01:02:00.849 --> 01:02:04.690
who can afford to pay more do so.
01:02:04.690 --> 01:02:07.040
And those who cannot, to pay less.
01:02:07.040 --> 01:02:09.240
I understand that there are plans,
01:02:09.240 --> 01:02:11.620
but those plans are not adequate
01:02:11.620 --> 01:02:12.690
when you're talking about
01:02:12.690 --> 01:02:15.160
increasing it every single year.
01:02:15.160 --> 01:02:18.100
And sometimes it seems
more than once a year
01:02:18.100 --> 01:02:20.210
that notices come indicating
01:02:20.210 --> 01:02:24.270
that there are additional
increases to your movie,
01:02:24.270 --> 01:02:25.993
to your SCE bill.
01:02:27.050 --> 01:02:30.130
Please consider people who are really
01:02:30.130 --> 01:02:32.090
just making life work,
01:02:32.090 --> 01:02:36.570
consider people who are really
01:02:36.570 --> 01:02:41.530
not able to continue to
escalate their bill payment
01:02:41.530 --> 01:02:44.250
because you are not
the only utility out there.
01:02:44.250 --> 01:02:45.610
There are many other utilities
01:02:45.610 --> 01:02:48.515
and everyone is asking
for their piece of the pie.
01:02:48.515 --> 01:02:50.820
That said, I think it's very important
01:02:50.820 --> 01:02:54.630
that we all look at why are
we using this much energy?
01:02:54.630 --> 01:02:56.090
Why is this the case,
01:02:56.090 --> 01:02:57.610
when we're supposed to be meeting
01:02:57.610 --> 01:03:00.570
various goals and objectives,
01:03:00.570 --> 01:03:03.710
and we should not be using
as much as we have in the past.
01:03:03.710 --> 01:03:08.620
And yet the total amount
on the bill never goes down.
01:03:08.620 --> 01:03:10.820
So if we're not using as much energy,
01:03:10.820 --> 01:03:13.050
then why is the cost of the energy
01:03:13.050 --> 01:03:15.120
still sky rise rocketing and accept
01:03:15.120 --> 01:03:18.913
that you are increasing the
amount that it costs per unit.
01:03:20.500 --> 01:03:21.860
So that's pretty much it.
01:03:21.860 --> 01:03:26.440
I really urgently ask you to reconsider
01:03:27.540 --> 01:03:30.920
and hear the voices of the
people who have spoken
01:03:30.920 --> 01:03:32.910
and consider people who haven't spoken,
01:03:32.910 --> 01:03:34.590
because they don't necessarily
01:03:34.590 --> 01:03:37.350
know to get to a line like this
01:03:37.350 --> 01:03:41.500
and to present their opinions.
01:03:41.500 --> 01:03:43.680
But please do consider
other than yourselves.
01:03:43.680 --> 01:03:47.460
And other than those who you've heard,
01:03:47.460 --> 01:03:51.710
commend you for doing
what has typically been done
01:03:51.710 --> 01:03:52.710
and do it differently.
01:03:52.710 --> 01:03:55.160
We're looking at systemic racism.
01:03:55.160 --> 01:03:56.680
This is a way that you can contribute
01:03:56.680 --> 01:03:59.470
to eliminating systemic racism
01:03:59.470 --> 01:04:03.290
by contributing to
households that have less
01:04:03.290 --> 01:04:05.060
instead of taking away from.
01:04:05.060 --> 01:04:05.893
Thank you.
01:04:07.420 --> 01:04:09.170
Thank you, Ms. Christmas.
01:04:09.170 --> 01:04:11.630
A general reminder to all the speakers.
01:04:11.630 --> 01:04:14.540
Please start by spelling
your first and last name
01:04:14.540 --> 01:04:17.260
and indicate the city
you are calling from.
01:04:17.260 --> 01:04:19.360
Operator, please call
on our next speaker.
01:04:20.840 --> 01:04:23.430
Our next comment
comes from Kirg Hulley.
01:04:23.430 --> 01:04:24.473
Your line is open.
01:04:28.500 --> 01:04:32.303
So yes, my
name is Kirg Hulley.
01:04:32.303 --> 01:04:34.950
It's spelled K-I-R-G.
01:04:34.950 --> 01:04:39.950
And then last name
is Hulley, H-U-L-L-E-Y.
01:04:41.380 --> 01:04:43.690
And just like everyone else,
01:04:43.690 --> 01:04:48.690
I am a single mom with a
child that has special needs
01:04:48.890 --> 01:04:53.590
and even listening to the other comments
01:04:55.090 --> 01:04:56.760
and everything like that,
01:04:56.760 --> 01:05:00.880
I have to charge my cell
phone to wait my turn.
01:05:00.880 --> 01:05:04.030
So I'm so using electricity that way.
01:05:04.030 --> 01:05:07.430
If there is an increase with that,
01:05:07.430 --> 01:05:10.510
with my electricity,
01:05:10.510 --> 01:05:15.230
it will take away
from even like his care
01:05:15.230 --> 01:05:19.823
or even his food that he
has to eat that special for
01:05:24.524 --> 01:05:25.357
(clears throat)
01:05:25.357 --> 01:05:26.190
excuse me.
01:05:26.190 --> 01:05:30.840
For his visibility also because
of the coronavirus as well.
01:05:33.640 --> 01:05:36.230
My job has also decreased,
01:05:36.230 --> 01:05:41.230
whereas I was getting
a nice income before,
01:05:41.250 --> 01:05:46.250
and then now it's
decreased at least by 15%.
01:05:47.020 --> 01:05:51.947
I also commute so even just $12 or $5,
01:05:54.130 --> 01:05:59.130
that would cause my
gas for me to drive to work,
01:05:59.260 --> 01:06:02.283
to not be able to pay
for things such as that.
01:06:03.600 --> 01:06:08.600
I urge you guys to please at
this time of everybody needs
01:06:08.690 --> 01:06:10.523
to not increase it.
01:06:11.780 --> 01:06:15.180
Maybe just like one other person said,
01:06:15.180 --> 01:06:18.770
to go across and do it slowly.
01:06:18.770 --> 01:06:23.770
Some of us had to come
up with triple the rent by June
01:06:23.900 --> 01:06:26.240
which was totally impossible
01:06:26.240 --> 01:06:29.473
when you've been laid
off for that time being.
01:06:31.170 --> 01:06:33.500
I'm a resident of Temecula,
01:06:33.500 --> 01:06:35.330
I'm sorry I forgot to say that,
01:06:35.330 --> 01:06:39.103
California and I commute
all the way to Oceanside.
01:06:40.340 --> 01:06:41.990
That's all I have for right now.
01:06:41.990 --> 01:06:44.053
And thank you for hearing my comments.
01:06:46.130 --> 01:06:47.450
Thank you Ms. Hulley.
01:06:48.350 --> 01:06:50.450
Operator, please call
in our next speaker.
01:06:51.981 --> 01:06:54.651
Our next comment
comes from Wayne Shishi.
01:06:54.651 --> 01:06:56.151
Your line is open.
01:06:57.450 --> 01:06:59.570
Hi, my name's
Wayne Shishido.
01:06:59.570 --> 01:07:07.890
It's W-A-Y-N-E last name
spelled S-H-I-S-H-I-D-O.
01:07:08.390 --> 01:07:10.033
I'm in Westminster, California.
01:07:12.330 --> 01:07:17.163
I've been laid off and I'm
also taking care of my mom.
01:07:18.750 --> 01:07:20.610
It's been pretty rough
01:07:20.610 --> 01:07:23.787
and I think cutting back on everything.
01:07:23.787 --> 01:07:26.390
And every time I cut back on
01:07:27.370 --> 01:07:32.370
whatever utilities on any kind of bill,
01:07:33.020 --> 01:07:36.070
it seems like the
bills keep on going up.
01:07:36.070 --> 01:07:40.100
And I basically cut as much as I can.
01:07:40.100 --> 01:07:44.100
And when I saw this, I was just shocked.
01:07:44.100 --> 01:07:47.170
It's just such a big increase
01:07:48.060 --> 01:07:52.973
and you're planning to
do it through three years.
01:07:55.690 --> 01:07:58.770
It's expensive enough
to live in California
01:07:58.770 --> 01:08:03.770
and the increases are just keep
on happening from everybody.
01:08:05.590 --> 01:08:08.530
I think you really need to look at this,
01:08:08.530 --> 01:08:12.930
especially, with what's going
on with coronavirus right now,
01:08:12.930 --> 01:08:15.610
a lot of people have lost their jobs.
01:08:15.610 --> 01:08:20.320
It's hard enough to
make ends meet as it is.
01:08:20.320 --> 01:08:25.320
And just I think it's
just wrong to increase,
01:08:27.560 --> 01:08:28.840
especially at this time.
01:08:28.840 --> 01:08:33.030
And it's rough as it is
with the fixed income.
01:08:33.030 --> 01:08:37.210
And I appreciate you
letting me speak at this time.
01:08:37.210 --> 01:08:38.043
Thank you.
01:08:39.310 --> 01:08:40.610
Thank you, Mr. Shishido.
01:08:41.910 --> 01:08:44.920
Operator will you please
cal the next speaker?
01:08:44.920 --> 01:08:46.250
Yes. As a reminder,
01:08:46.250 --> 01:08:47.860
if you would like to make a comment,
01:08:47.860 --> 01:08:49.250
please press star one
01:08:49.250 --> 01:08:52.100
along with spelling
your first and last name,
01:08:52.100 --> 01:08:54.920
as well as your city and location.
01:08:54.920 --> 01:08:57.740
Our next comment
comes from Savan Morales.
01:08:57.740 --> 01:08:58.810
Your line is open.
01:09:03.883 --> 01:09:06.410
Is this Savan or Fabian?
01:09:06.410 --> 01:09:07.950
Fabian, I'm sorry.
01:09:07.950 --> 01:09:09.730
Okay that's
me. That's okay.
01:09:09.730 --> 01:09:11.670
Now, I was not going to speak,
01:09:11.670 --> 01:09:13.830
but I feel as if I need to,
01:09:13.830 --> 01:09:15.970
and more people should
take the opportunity to speak
01:09:15.970 --> 01:09:18.000
while we have the chance to do so.
01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:21.000
Now Ms. Pierre, at the
beginning of the meeting,
01:09:21.000 --> 01:09:22.820
I believe hit the nail right on the head
01:09:22.820 --> 01:09:25.873
when she spoke on the
topic of corporate greed.
01:09:27.020 --> 01:09:30.730
I lived in Florida and
work from home Hemet,
01:09:30.730 --> 01:09:31.970
see all day and night,
01:09:31.970 --> 01:09:33.007
and my bills never came close
01:09:33.007 --> 01:09:36.690
to what I'm being
charged here in California.
01:09:36.690 --> 01:09:38.560
Rates have gone up regularly
01:09:38.560 --> 01:09:40.160
in the past five and a half years
01:09:40.160 --> 01:09:42.930
I have been back in California.
01:09:42.930 --> 01:09:45.223
And it's obviously continue to do so.
01:09:46.550 --> 01:09:48.450
I've been in the automotive aftermarket
01:09:49.670 --> 01:09:51.330
for the past 20 years.
01:09:51.330 --> 01:09:53.330
And I was released from unemployment
01:09:53.330 --> 01:09:56.170
due to the impact of the coronavirus.
01:09:56.170 --> 01:09:57.410
I'm going on four months now.
01:09:57.410 --> 01:09:59.440
I have not been able to find a job
01:09:59.440 --> 01:10:00.920
for the first time in my life.
01:10:00.920 --> 01:10:02.590
I mean, I've been
working since I was 17.
01:10:02.590 --> 01:10:06.170
I've never gone
through anything like this.
01:10:06.170 --> 01:10:11.170
And the jobs that we have
in sales, in the aftermarket,
01:10:11.690 --> 01:10:14.830
there were people with
35 years with the company.
01:10:14.830 --> 01:10:16.540
I mean, they were
just kicked to the curb.
01:10:16.540 --> 01:10:18.510
Those jobs will never come back.
01:10:18.510 --> 01:10:20.800
So, I've got two kids at home,
01:10:20.800 --> 01:10:22.983
they've suffered a lot
with everything going on
01:10:22.983 --> 01:10:24.060
with the electric rates.
01:10:24.060 --> 01:10:25.420
I can't run air conditioning.
01:10:25.420 --> 01:10:28.070
I mean, my air conditioner is like $150,
01:10:28.070 --> 01:10:31.760
which is a lot of you it's
that's probably not a lot.
01:10:31.760 --> 01:10:34.670
I mean, there's people
probably paying three or $400,
01:10:34.670 --> 01:10:36.140
but at the end of the month,
01:10:36.140 --> 01:10:39.880
that's really an impact in
prices have really gone up.
01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:43.230
No matter how much I
try to reduce my electricity
01:10:43.230 --> 01:10:45.950
it just seems like I'm
paying the same amount,
01:10:45.950 --> 01:10:48.520
you know, and I mean I've gone as far
01:10:48.520 --> 01:10:50.477
as to try to reach out
to electric company
01:10:50.477 --> 01:10:52.690
and try to figure out
who's reading the meter.
01:10:52.690 --> 01:10:55.430
I mean, why are my
bills remaining the same
01:10:55.430 --> 01:10:57.750
when I'm using like a
quarter of the electricity
01:10:57.750 --> 01:11:02.660
I was using when I first
moved back to California.
01:11:02.660 --> 01:11:05.130
And, you know people
are suffering right now
01:11:05.130 --> 01:11:08.933
with the increases and
people on a fixed income.
01:11:10.130 --> 01:11:12.210
And I probably won't
be able to find a job
01:11:12.210 --> 01:11:13.822
for another two or three months.
01:11:13.822 --> 01:11:16.580
And the job that I do
find will probably pay me
01:11:16.580 --> 01:11:20.620
less than half of what I
made with my company.
01:11:20.620 --> 01:11:25.620
So, go use the Florida
electric companies model
01:11:26.660 --> 01:11:27.990
business model and figure out
01:11:27.990 --> 01:11:30.450
how it is that we can
do what they're doing.
01:11:30.450 --> 01:11:35.270
Because I was paying not
even less than a quarter,
01:11:35.270 --> 01:11:36.187
what I be out here in California
01:11:36.187 --> 01:11:38.270
and I hardly ever use any electricity.
01:11:38.270 --> 01:11:41.790
So like I said, I wasn't gonna
take a moment to speak today,
01:11:41.790 --> 01:11:44.331
but I felt like I had to,
01:11:44.331 --> 01:11:46.280
when I see so many
people suffering out there
01:11:46.280 --> 01:11:49.470
and I just wanted to speak a little bit
01:11:49.470 --> 01:11:51.030
and let you know what
I've been going through.
01:11:51.030 --> 01:11:54.480
But basically that's it for me.
01:11:54.480 --> 01:11:56.800
Just people are suffering
and these increases,
01:11:56.800 --> 01:11:58.680
like I said fixed incomes.
01:11:58.680 --> 01:12:00.920
These people are going to suffer more
01:12:00.920 --> 01:12:03.220
and it's just corporate greed.
01:12:03.220 --> 01:12:04.309
That's all it is.
01:12:04.309 --> 01:12:05.370
And that's it for me.
01:12:05.370 --> 01:12:07.930
I thank you for the
opportunity to speak.
01:12:07.930 --> 01:12:08.763
Thank you, Mr. Morales.
01:12:08.763 --> 01:12:11.120
Would you mind spelling
your first and last name
01:12:11.120 --> 01:12:13.130
for our court reporters?
01:12:13.130 --> 01:12:18.130
It's F-A-B-I-A-N, M-O-R-A-L-E-S.
01:12:20.066 --> 01:12:22.460
And I live in Hemet.
Okay.
01:12:22.460 --> 01:12:25.200
Thank you. A general
reminder for all the speakers,
01:12:25.200 --> 01:12:27.098
please spell your first and last name
01:12:27.098 --> 01:12:29.760
and indicates the city
you are calling from.
01:12:29.760 --> 01:12:32.780
Operator, will you please
call on our next speaker?
01:12:32.780 --> 01:12:34.940
Our next comment
come from Janet Chu.
01:12:34.940 --> 01:12:36.113
Your line is open.
01:12:41.860 --> 01:12:43.670
Oh, hi. Can you hear me?
01:12:43.670 --> 01:12:45.434
Hi. Can you hear me?
01:12:45.434 --> 01:12:47.100
Yes. We hear you.
01:12:47.100 --> 01:12:48.500
Oh, hi.
01:12:48.500 --> 01:12:53.500
I'm Janet Chu. J-A-N-E-T,
last name C-H-U.
01:12:54.190 --> 01:12:56.600
And I would just like to thank you all
01:12:56.600 --> 01:12:59.670
for giving us the opportunity to speak
01:12:59.670 --> 01:13:01.470
and giving the public are opportunities
01:13:01.470 --> 01:13:05.060
to let you know what
we thinking about this.
01:13:05.060 --> 01:13:09.320
I agree with everybody
who has spoken so far,
01:13:09.320 --> 01:13:13.520
I think this is just a really bad time
01:13:13.520 --> 01:13:16.520
to increase rates for everybody,
01:13:16.520 --> 01:13:20.350
especially right now with so
many people losing their jobs.
01:13:20.350 --> 01:13:22.460
People who have to work from home
01:13:22.460 --> 01:13:26.793
and using a lot more electricity
than they normally would.
01:13:27.800 --> 01:13:31.990
It's just such a big increase
for the first year, like $12.
01:13:31.990 --> 01:13:34.070
Even though it doesn't
sound like a lot per month,
01:13:34.070 --> 01:13:36.650
if you add it up for
the year, it's a lot.
01:13:36.650 --> 01:13:41.650
And I agree with the person
who said that the executives,
01:13:42.247 --> 01:13:44.980
why not look at why
not look at the executives
01:13:44.980 --> 01:13:47.850
and see how much money they're making
01:13:47.850 --> 01:13:49.340
compared to the money
01:13:49.340 --> 01:13:54.340
that SCE is asking all
of the customers to pay.
01:13:55.251 --> 01:13:57.530
And if they're high salaries,
01:13:57.530 --> 01:13:59.450
if they really cared then
01:14:00.290 --> 01:14:04.810
why not look at their incomes
and decrease a little bit.
01:14:04.810 --> 01:14:06.380
Maybe they get paid a little bit less,
01:14:06.380 --> 01:14:10.973
but then everybody else
doesn't have to pay that much.
01:14:11.880 --> 01:14:14.330
So, I just think this
is a really bad time
01:14:14.330 --> 01:14:16.263
to increase the rates.
01:14:17.790 --> 01:14:20.543
I would hope that SCE
would think about the people
01:14:20.543 --> 01:14:22.083
that they're serving.
01:14:24.560 --> 01:14:27.190
Just have some more
compassion during this time.
01:14:27.190 --> 01:14:29.290
Thank you for letting
us speak about this.
01:14:31.370 --> 01:14:33.180
Thank you, Ms. Chu.
01:14:33.180 --> 01:14:35.480
Operator will please
call on the next speaker.
01:14:36.660 --> 01:14:38.960
Our next comment
comes from Rob Gib.
01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:40.073
Your line is open.
01:14:42.620 --> 01:14:46.250
Hello. Rob R-O-B, last G-I-B.
01:14:46.250 --> 01:14:47.083
Mission Viejo
01:14:48.977 --> 01:14:51.760
So at first I have a question answered.
01:14:51.760 --> 01:14:56.760
If he could, the first
speaker the head of utilities
01:14:56.810 --> 01:15:00.170
he was a public advocacy organization.
01:15:00.170 --> 01:15:03.300
I believe he mentioned
the right increase
01:15:03.300 --> 01:15:04.750
for the first year.
01:15:04.750 --> 01:15:08.020
And I don't... I couldn't
understand what he said.
01:15:08.020 --> 01:15:10.810
The lady who spoke after him mentioned
01:15:10.810 --> 01:15:14.403
that the rate increase
would be $43 a month.
01:15:15.460 --> 01:15:18.630
Does anybody know what
the rate increase was at
01:15:18.630 --> 01:15:21.143
that gentlemen spoke?
01:15:24.660 --> 01:15:25.493
I believe...
01:15:25.493 --> 01:15:26.326
This is Judge Seybert.
01:15:26.326 --> 01:15:29.630
I believe the average
residential rate increase
01:15:29.630 --> 01:15:32.633
for 2021 is around $13.
01:15:34.210 --> 01:15:37.260
And I will note that all of
the parties have submitted,
01:15:37.260 --> 01:15:39.890
just submitted testimony
and its proceeding.
01:15:39.890 --> 01:15:41.810
We're about to go through
evidentiary hearings.
01:15:41.810 --> 01:15:44.720
And so they will continue
to look at the record
01:15:44.720 --> 01:15:47.633
here and that number
may adjust as we do so.
01:15:48.850 --> 01:15:50.963
Well, I would
like to find out,
01:15:52.270 --> 01:15:53.820
if there's a comparison,
01:15:53.820 --> 01:15:55.870
because that's quite
a bit of difference.
01:15:56.908 --> 01:16:00.170
One person's saying
43, the other same 13,
01:16:00.170 --> 01:16:01.003
they're both high,
01:16:01.003 --> 01:16:06.003
but which one would be
closer to a realistic number.
01:16:06.630 --> 01:16:09.760
But whatever the number is I agree.
01:16:09.760 --> 01:16:12.430
All the adjectives that
have been mentioned,
01:16:12.430 --> 01:16:14.130
nobody has said outrageous.
01:16:14.130 --> 01:16:19.130
I think the rate is
outrageous and its useless.
01:16:19.250 --> 01:16:22.120
Unfortunately, SCE is a monopoly.
01:16:22.120 --> 01:16:27.120
So, there's not a lot
that can be done to them
01:16:27.170 --> 01:16:32.170
other than if somehow
the state could approve.
01:16:32.330 --> 01:16:33.750
And if somebody could come forward
01:16:33.750 --> 01:16:38.750
and build another source
of electrical service,
01:16:41.550 --> 01:16:43.070
we could have a comparison.
01:16:43.070 --> 01:16:45.840
So we could have a choice to see
01:16:45.840 --> 01:16:48.863
who we'll to have
provided us our electricity.
01:16:50.260 --> 01:16:54.750
Every time I opened the bill
from SCE almost every month,
01:16:54.750 --> 01:16:57.680
I see the terrible leaflet in it.
01:16:57.680 --> 01:17:00.170
It says they're asking
for a rate increase,
01:17:00.170 --> 01:17:03.670
and I don't understand
why they are asking
01:17:03.670 --> 01:17:06.800
for a rate increase
practically every month.
01:17:06.800 --> 01:17:08.350
They're either terribly efficient
01:17:08.350 --> 01:17:09.740
or they're terribly greedy
01:17:09.740 --> 01:17:12.680
that they want these rate increases
01:17:12.680 --> 01:17:15.500
going on almost every month.
01:17:15.500 --> 01:17:17.680
It's just absolutely unbearable.
01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:20.050
And as there are many
people they talk to as you said,
01:17:20.050 --> 01:17:24.070
and I worked with several
people who are on fixed income.
01:17:24.070 --> 01:17:26.130
Fixed income, social security
01:17:26.130 --> 01:17:30.307
has only gone up about 1% for the year.
01:17:30.307 --> 01:17:34.580
That 1% would be totally
wiped out multiple times
01:17:34.580 --> 01:17:38.690
by just this one increased
by the electrical company.
01:17:38.690 --> 01:17:41.360
So it just is unbearable.
01:17:41.360 --> 01:17:45.120
And it certainly is gonna
impact negatively people
01:17:45.120 --> 01:17:47.100
on social security
and all the thousands,
01:17:47.100 --> 01:17:51.750
hundreds of thousands of
people that lost their jobs.
01:17:51.750 --> 01:17:53.640
Many of those people have spoken already
01:17:53.640 --> 01:17:56.810
on this media here.
01:17:56.810 --> 01:17:58.490
So we really...
01:17:58.490 --> 01:18:01.010
I would hope and pray
that there's gonna be
01:18:02.270 --> 01:18:04.700
something that looks
into this seriously,
01:18:04.700 --> 01:18:07.380
and that there's going to be a back off
01:18:07.380 --> 01:18:09.750
into this humongous rate increase
01:18:09.750 --> 01:18:12.470
that they're asking for. Thank you.
01:18:13.386 --> 01:18:15.270
Thank you, Mr. Gib.
01:18:15.270 --> 01:18:17.370
Operator, please call
on the next speaker.
01:18:19.580 --> 01:18:22.700
Our next comment
comes from Beverly McCarthy.
01:18:22.700 --> 01:18:23.763
Your line is open.
01:18:27.750 --> 01:18:29.940
Yes. My name
is Beverly McCarthy,
01:18:29.940 --> 01:18:34.940
B-E-V-E-R-L-Y, M-C-C-A-R-T-H-Y.
01:18:38.850 --> 01:18:41.220
I'm in Highland, California.
01:18:41.220 --> 01:18:45.580
My question is, it's a
question and a comment.
01:18:45.580 --> 01:18:50.167
Well, the time of used TOU
structure being mandated.
01:18:57.580 --> 01:19:01.560
The bill structure from
going from tier to time-of-use.
01:19:01.560 --> 01:19:03.610
This is Judge Seybert.
01:19:03.610 --> 01:19:05.700
We're not considering the TOU rates
01:19:05.700 --> 01:19:10.080
as part of this application,
as a more general matter.
01:19:10.080 --> 01:19:11.540
We're taking comments today.
01:19:11.540 --> 01:19:15.310
Unfortunately, due to the
voluminous violations proceeding,
01:19:15.310 --> 01:19:18.200
we won't be able to address
all customer questions,
01:19:18.200 --> 01:19:19.440
but I do invite you,
01:19:19.440 --> 01:19:22.960
If you have questions to
reach out to our public advisor,
01:19:22.960 --> 01:19:27.960
that's public.advisor@cpUc.ca.gov.
01:19:28.070 --> 01:19:31.130
Okay. So I'll
make a comment then.
01:19:31.130 --> 01:19:33.040
I did call in to SCE to request
01:19:33.040 --> 01:19:36.740
the standard TOU model
because the tiered bill structure,
01:19:36.740 --> 01:19:38.997
that I'm able to stay into tier one.
01:19:38.997 --> 01:19:40.960
And if I'm switched to time-of-use,
01:19:40.960 --> 01:19:44.670
which it sounds like it may be mandated
01:19:44.670 --> 01:19:49.670
if that's, so my ability
increased by $40 a month
01:19:49.700 --> 01:19:52.980
after doing all the
calculators that are online.
01:19:52.980 --> 01:19:56.760
So if I'm switched to TOU, that's $40.
01:19:56.760 --> 01:20:01.760
They're much plus these
extra additional $14 or $12
01:20:01.830 --> 01:20:02.663
this year.
01:20:02.663 --> 01:20:05.630
So that's around $53.
01:20:05.630 --> 01:20:08.584
It's $54 increase in a month.
01:20:08.584 --> 01:20:12.027
If people have to be switched over
01:20:12.027 --> 01:20:14.100
the tiered bill structure
01:20:14.100 --> 01:20:15.600
to the time-of-use structure.
01:20:15.600 --> 01:20:18.910
So I don't know if
everyone's aware of that,
01:20:18.910 --> 01:20:22.683
but that will increase in bills
as well as the time-of-use.
01:20:23.850 --> 01:20:24.683
Thank you.
01:20:26.220 --> 01:20:28.290
Thank you, Ms. McCarthy.
01:20:28.290 --> 01:20:31.533
Operator will you please
call on the next speaker?
01:20:31.533 --> 01:20:34.783
Our next comment
comes from Guy Roubian.
01:20:34.783 --> 01:20:36.053
Your line is open.
01:20:37.740 --> 01:20:39.270
Guy Roubian.
01:20:39.270 --> 01:20:44.270
G-U-Y, R-O-U-B as in boy I-A-N.
01:20:45.190 --> 01:20:46.633
Ontario, California.
01:20:47.970 --> 01:20:50.650
I urge the Commission
to freeze Edison rates
01:20:50.650 --> 01:20:54.520
at least through the 2021 calendar year
01:20:54.520 --> 01:20:57.026
because of these unprecedented times
01:20:57.026 --> 01:20:59.330
and the unknown seriousness
01:20:59.330 --> 01:21:02.930
of this state's current downturn.
01:21:02.930 --> 01:21:07.650
Our state budget will
experience a serious deficit
01:21:07.650 --> 01:21:12.100
for years to come and all
state agencies and departments
01:21:12.100 --> 01:21:14.600
will be making cuts accordingly.
01:21:14.600 --> 01:21:18.963
I don't see why Edison
shouldn't be making cuts also.
01:21:20.160 --> 01:21:22.860
It is important to
remember that schools,
01:21:22.860 --> 01:21:24.293
because of the pandemic.
01:21:25.400 --> 01:21:27.140
Don't know we'll be going to school
01:21:27.140 --> 01:21:30.810
on a hybrid type program
01:21:30.810 --> 01:21:34.200
where they will only be going
to school every other day.
01:21:34.200 --> 01:21:37.740
So to help them with their learning,
01:21:37.740 --> 01:21:40.500
they will be home every other day
01:21:40.500 --> 01:21:42.610
and may need air conditioning
01:21:42.610 --> 01:21:46.593
and obviously lighting,
appropriate lighting to computers.
01:21:47.678 --> 01:21:51.440
So families' electrical
use is going to increase
01:21:51.440 --> 01:21:54.630
significantly for at least
this next school-year
01:21:54.630 --> 01:21:56.760
because of distance learning.
01:21:56.760 --> 01:22:01.180
So I think freezing the
rate at least till next year
01:22:01.180 --> 01:22:03.240
would be advantageous and helpful
01:22:03.240 --> 01:22:04.663
for families with children.
01:22:06.550 --> 01:22:09.310
Edison needs to live
within their current budget
01:22:10.500 --> 01:22:12.701
because the state and its agencies,
01:22:12.701 --> 01:22:14.460
and many out-of-work people
01:22:14.460 --> 01:22:17.710
are going to be making
cuts to their budgets.
01:22:17.710 --> 01:22:21.810
I'm only requesting that the
Commission freeze their rates
01:22:21.810 --> 01:22:24.080
at this particular time.
01:22:24.080 --> 01:22:28.750
And remember Edison's
top three executives'
01:22:28.750 --> 01:22:31.453
total salary are over $3 million.
01:22:33.000 --> 01:22:34.960
Edison urge domestic retail,
01:22:34.960 --> 01:22:37.520
or energy use so that they could
01:22:38.670 --> 01:22:40.930
provide service to everyone.
01:22:40.930 --> 01:22:44.740
So people bought
efficient air conditioning,
01:22:44.740 --> 01:22:46.750
people bought solar.
01:22:46.750 --> 01:22:50.737
And now all that work we've
done is coming back to haunt us.
01:22:50.737 --> 01:22:53.380
And Edison now uses that against us,
01:22:53.380 --> 01:22:55.863
to say they need an increase in rates.
01:22:56.970 --> 01:23:01.960
I wish Edison had made
this choice on their own
01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:04.910
and didn't allow their
arrogance and their greed
01:23:04.910 --> 01:23:08.120
to force the Commission
to make a decision.
01:23:08.120 --> 01:23:09.830
they shouldn't have to make.
01:23:09.830 --> 01:23:12.700
Edison should've seen on their own,
01:23:12.700 --> 01:23:16.380
that this pandemic and the
downturn in the economy,
01:23:16.380 --> 01:23:18.090
that this was not the time
01:23:18.090 --> 01:23:21.833
to ask for such a huge
increase or any increase at all.
01:23:23.190 --> 01:23:24.050
Thank you for your time.
01:23:24.050 --> 01:23:26.200
I appreciate the opportunity
01:23:26.200 --> 01:23:27.700
to speak to the Commissioners.
01:23:29.030 --> 01:23:30.760
Thank you, Mr. Ruobian.
01:23:30.760 --> 01:23:32.690
A general reminder for callers
01:23:32.690 --> 01:23:34.810
that may have just
joined, before you speak,
01:23:34.810 --> 01:23:36.750
please spell your first and last name
01:23:36.750 --> 01:23:39.590
and indicate the city
that you were calling from.
01:23:39.590 --> 01:23:41.690
Operator, please call
on the next speaker.
01:23:42.606 --> 01:23:44.720
Our next comment
comes from Wendy Taylor.
01:23:44.720 --> 01:23:45.713
Your line is open.
01:23:47.570 --> 01:23:49.110
Hi, thank you so much.
01:23:49.110 --> 01:23:56.293
My name is Wendy Taylor,
W-E-N-D-Y T-A-Y-L-O-R.
01:23:57.340 --> 01:23:59.560
So where do I even begin here?
01:23:59.560 --> 01:24:04.560
I mean I'm so disappointed in SCE
01:24:04.610 --> 01:24:07.780
and I'm in full agreement with
01:24:07.780 --> 01:24:09.250
the gentleman that just spoke.
01:24:09.250 --> 01:24:12.446
I told my husband I
was gonna get on here
01:24:12.446 --> 01:24:14.360
and just to bag on
corporate greed and all that.
01:24:14.360 --> 01:24:17.110
But I think we all know that.
01:24:17.110 --> 01:24:20.760
I think that's all very clear here.
01:24:20.760 --> 01:24:24.580
So what really, really
bothers me the most
01:24:24.580 --> 01:24:28.810
is that my family has
really done everything
01:24:28.810 --> 01:24:29.890
we've been asked to do
01:24:29.890 --> 01:24:31.800
just like I've heard
other people say too.
01:24:31.800 --> 01:24:33.860
We have cut back on everything.
01:24:33.860 --> 01:24:35.470
We've gotten the led lights,
01:24:35.470 --> 01:24:39.110
we've done all the
energy efficient appliances
01:24:39.110 --> 01:24:40.750
and all of that.
01:24:40.750 --> 01:24:43.943
We put it down on air
conditioning to the extent where,
01:24:44.920 --> 01:24:46.710
we're all sweaty all the time
01:24:46.710 --> 01:24:48.860
and not even using air conditioning.
01:24:48.860 --> 01:24:51.140
And it doesn't help.
01:24:51.140 --> 01:24:54.540
I mean, where is this light
at the end of the tunnel?
01:24:54.540 --> 01:24:58.490
We hear people talking to you, Mr. Snow,
01:24:58.490 --> 01:25:00.540
and your colleagues telling you
01:25:00.540 --> 01:25:02.610
that they go out and get solar panels.
01:25:02.610 --> 01:25:05.760
And they're still being way overcharged.
01:25:05.760 --> 01:25:07.430
We were talking about that
01:25:08.280 --> 01:25:11.713
and we're not even sure
that's even gonna help anymore.
01:25:12.730 --> 01:25:15.180
Also, I wanted to talk as a caregiver
01:25:15.180 --> 01:25:18.940
because I am a caregiver
and I have aging parents.
01:25:18.940 --> 01:25:23.138
And I went over to
my dad's house and I...
01:25:23.138 --> 01:25:24.737
They live in Mission Viejo
01:25:24.737 --> 01:25:28.230
and I don't think I've ever seen my dad,
01:25:28.230 --> 01:25:29.360
his face like that
01:25:29.360 --> 01:25:34.163
because his electric
bill was almost $400.
01:25:36.193 --> 01:25:39.160
And I don't know he's in the SCE area,
01:25:39.160 --> 01:25:42.370
but the point I'm trying
to make is that the elderly
01:25:42.370 --> 01:25:44.160
and people on fixed income,
01:25:44.160 --> 01:25:46.900
they can't run their electricity.
01:25:46.900 --> 01:25:49.150
They can't run their air conditioning.
01:25:49.150 --> 01:25:53.540
They can't use fans
even, they don't watch TV.
01:25:53.540 --> 01:25:57.400
They do without so much already.
01:25:57.400 --> 01:26:01.710
And to raise rates right
now in the pandemic still.
01:26:01.710 --> 01:26:04.330
It's just, it's so much almost for me.
01:26:04.330 --> 01:26:05.990
I'm like holding my head right now.
01:26:05.990 --> 01:26:07.490
'Cause it's is so much
01:26:07.490 --> 01:26:10.763
to think of how these executives think
01:26:10.763 --> 01:26:12.870
that they can do this.
01:26:12.870 --> 01:26:17.070
I think you guys need to look
inside your own organization
01:26:17.070 --> 01:26:20.000
there at SCE and find other ways
01:26:20.000 --> 01:26:22.253
because you are not helping us.
01:26:24.090 --> 01:26:26.490
I personally would really like to know
01:26:26.490 --> 01:26:30.810
what percentage of this
billions of dollars of increase
01:26:30.810 --> 01:26:32.930
that you're looking at
in the next three years
01:26:32.930 --> 01:26:36.110
is going in your pocket
or to your salaries.
01:26:36.110 --> 01:26:37.410
I mean don't get me wrong.
01:26:37.410 --> 01:26:38.990
My husband and I live well,
01:26:38.990 --> 01:26:42.420
we understand, making a profit,
01:26:42.420 --> 01:26:45.460
just like a couple of other
people have said, we get that.
01:26:45.460 --> 01:26:49.410
But when we do everything
you're asking us to do,
01:26:49.410 --> 01:26:54.410
and we're still asked to pay
more and more and more,
01:26:54.670 --> 01:26:55.857
it just is...
01:26:57.345 --> 01:26:59.850
It's just unacceptable
and it just cannot happen.
01:26:59.850 --> 01:27:04.660
And I would urge the
judge and everybody else
01:27:05.530 --> 01:27:08.233
who's listening here, just
you cannot let this happen.
01:27:09.860 --> 01:27:11.840
There was one other
thing I was gonna say,
01:27:11.840 --> 01:27:12.713
I'm a mum.
01:27:14.413 --> 01:27:16.490
You are.
01:27:16.490 --> 01:27:17.394
One, right?
01:27:17.394 --> 01:27:18.790
(laughs)
01:27:18.790 --> 01:27:21.480
I do appreciate the chance to talk here.
01:27:21.480 --> 01:27:23.630
I gotta tell you, I'm at 58 years old,
01:27:23.630 --> 01:27:26.170
I've lived in the Saddleback Valley
01:27:26.170 --> 01:27:28.350
and Orange County area my whole life,
01:27:28.350 --> 01:27:30.830
and I've never done this.
01:27:30.830 --> 01:27:35.830
And I decided to do this
because this just is unacceptable.
01:27:35.840 --> 01:27:38.970
And in time of change,
01:27:38.970 --> 01:27:40.730
when everybody's looking at change
01:27:40.730 --> 01:27:43.610
and systemic racism
change and all of that,
01:27:43.610 --> 01:27:45.720
you guys see executives
in this company, SCE
01:27:45.720 --> 01:27:50.720
you need to look harder for a
way to help and make change.
01:27:53.260 --> 01:27:58.230
I don't think everyone needs
to make two, $300,000 a year.
01:27:58.230 --> 01:27:59.900
You can give up maybe some of that
01:27:59.900 --> 01:28:01.550
in just the next two years.
01:28:01.550 --> 01:28:04.500
Maybe take a cut in just a couple years
01:28:04.500 --> 01:28:07.440
and you help us pay for
whatever it is you need.
01:28:07.440 --> 01:28:08.273
There's just a whole other thing.
01:28:08.273 --> 01:28:13.243
I don't understand why this
all has to be done anyway.
01:28:15.830 --> 01:28:18.000
The amount of money is staggering.
01:28:18.000 --> 01:28:19.050
I can't even write it.
01:28:19.050 --> 01:28:21.313
It's staggering and and I'm educated.
01:28:22.640 --> 01:28:24.790
So anyway, I will...
01:28:24.790 --> 01:28:27.850
My last thing is I also used to...
01:28:27.850 --> 01:28:30.022
Well, I still do every now and then,
01:28:30.022 --> 01:28:32.690
but I volunteer for an outreach
01:28:32.690 --> 01:28:35.050
and their business model was
01:28:35.050 --> 01:28:37.940
get the homeless each
before they go homeless.
01:28:37.940 --> 01:28:40.470
We need to help these
people before they go homeless
01:28:40.470 --> 01:28:42.460
and you know why they
were going homeless?
01:28:42.460 --> 01:28:47.460
Was because they could
barely afford all of their bills
01:28:47.980 --> 01:28:50.110
and then they couldn't eat.
01:28:50.110 --> 01:28:53.470
So they ended up at
the outreach for food.
01:28:53.470 --> 01:28:55.930
But if you keep doing this,
01:28:55.930 --> 01:28:57.770
even my husband and
I will make good money,
01:28:57.770 --> 01:28:59.830
but you keep doing this
and doing this and doing it.
01:28:59.830 --> 01:29:02.810
You're just pushing into their cars.
01:29:02.810 --> 01:29:04.270
It's the bottom line here.
01:29:04.270 --> 01:29:06.820
What's gonna happen to a lot of people.
01:29:06.820 --> 01:29:09.660
I mean they just can't
afford these rates.
01:29:09.660 --> 01:29:12.210
So I would urge you
not to do this in this time
01:29:12.210 --> 01:29:15.240
especially wait it out,
give it three years,
01:29:15.240 --> 01:29:17.840
find a way to make
it work for three years
01:29:17.840 --> 01:29:19.280
and then revisit it.
01:29:19.280 --> 01:29:20.383
Thank you very much.
01:29:21.810 --> 01:29:23.400
Excuse
me. This is a court reporter.
01:29:23.400 --> 01:29:25.950
Can I get the location of
that last speaker please?
01:29:27.050 --> 01:29:29.623
I am in Lake
Forest, California.
01:29:30.634 --> 01:29:31.634
Thank you.
01:29:32.540 --> 01:29:35.070
Thank you Ms.Taylor.
Thank you.
01:29:35.070 --> 01:29:37.420
Operator, please call
in on the next speaker.
01:29:38.530 --> 01:29:40.390
Our next comment
comes from Tony Fryer.
01:29:40.390 --> 01:29:41.373
Your line is open.
01:29:43.099 --> 01:29:46.650
Thank you for
taking my call, and oh boy!
01:29:46.650 --> 01:29:48.310
I liked the last speaker.
01:29:48.310 --> 01:29:50.400
She didn't know where to start.
01:29:50.400 --> 01:29:52.840
Just a couple of
notes (indistinct) prior,
01:29:52.840 --> 01:29:57.840
T-O-N-Y F-R-Y-E-R like in chicken.
01:29:59.660 --> 01:30:01.603
I'm calling from Mammoth Lakes.
01:30:07.430 --> 01:30:09.070
Can I continue?
01:30:09.070 --> 01:30:10.431
Yes, please.
01:30:10.431 --> 01:30:12.943
Oh, sorry, I
apologize. Okay.
01:30:13.865 --> 01:30:15.680
I'm on a fixed income.
01:30:15.680 --> 01:30:19.770
So security I've been
on it now for two years.
01:30:19.770 --> 01:30:22.420
It's been brought up before.
01:30:22.420 --> 01:30:24.970
The social security went up 1.6%.
01:30:27.330 --> 01:30:29.284
So Cal Edison is looking at what?
01:30:29.284 --> 01:30:32.920
10%, 13% something, some number.
01:30:32.920 --> 01:30:34.603
Which a gentleman earlier had said,
01:30:34.603 --> 01:30:38.003
well, I just eats up
whatever social security paid.
01:30:39.920 --> 01:30:41.210
I get the feeling,
01:30:41.210 --> 01:30:43.620
and this is something I've voiced
01:30:43.620 --> 01:30:47.170
with regard to bond
issues that seem to pop up.
01:30:47.170 --> 01:30:49.210
We just want six more dollars a year.
01:30:49.210 --> 01:30:51.320
It's like going out to dinner
01:30:51.320 --> 01:30:55.443
once in a while with your wife.
01:30:56.853 --> 01:30:59.520
$60 is a lot of money today.
01:30:59.520 --> 01:31:03.770
And I pleaded with the
politician in this case,
01:31:03.770 --> 01:31:05.833
please don't bleed us dry.
01:31:07.270 --> 01:31:10.300
Not everybody is
working in Silicon Valley
01:31:10.300 --> 01:31:12.100
and I don't begrudge anybody who is.
01:31:14.010 --> 01:31:19.010
But I'm concerned that
has it's been voiced earlier,
01:31:19.230 --> 01:31:22.430
the rate increases seem to be well,
01:31:22.430 --> 01:31:24.640
we're just gonna do
it on a rate increase.
01:31:24.640 --> 01:31:29.640
And yet where I live in Mammoth
Lakes, surrounded by trees,
01:31:29.670 --> 01:31:32.970
it looks like the money
that these rate increases
01:31:32.970 --> 01:31:34.130
have paid in the past,
01:31:34.130 --> 01:31:37.640
didn't go to maintaining
the infrastructure.
01:31:37.640 --> 01:31:40.560
So a gentlemen earlier had said,
01:31:40.560 --> 01:31:43.493
postpone the increase
for at least a year.
01:31:44.440 --> 01:31:47.640
I would mirror that and also say,
01:31:47.640 --> 01:31:51.650
and revisit how you're
maintaining your equipment
01:31:51.650 --> 01:31:56.650
and show us after a year
that you're paying clients.
01:31:57.090 --> 01:32:00.890
What improvements you've
made to your infrastructure
01:32:00.890 --> 01:32:02.283
that can save money.
01:32:03.510 --> 01:32:08.510
On a side note the
disastrous street shopping
01:32:08.750 --> 01:32:09.583
that's been done.
01:32:09.583 --> 01:32:13.850
I just hope you stop
that or hire an arborist.
01:32:13.850 --> 01:32:16.563
Spend some money there, do it right.
01:32:17.750 --> 01:32:19.860
And then I'm just gonna close with
01:32:19.860 --> 01:32:22.320
it's like the cable companies.
01:32:22.320 --> 01:32:23.923
They just keep raising the rates.
01:32:23.923 --> 01:32:25.530
And why are you raising the rates?
01:32:25.530 --> 01:32:27.820
Well, we're improving the infrastructure
01:32:27.820 --> 01:32:31.070
and it's been voiced
on this call earlier.
01:32:31.070 --> 01:32:32.740
We're not seeing these changes
01:32:32.740 --> 01:32:37.100
or we're making adjustments
to a refrigerator, energy star.
01:32:37.100 --> 01:32:39.280
We're putting solar panels up.
01:32:39.280 --> 01:32:42.550
We're doing everything
that you're telling us to do.
01:32:42.550 --> 01:32:46.500
And yet if our bills keep going up,
01:32:46.500 --> 01:32:49.080
I wanna know, where's
the money being spent.
01:32:49.080 --> 01:32:51.160
I don't begrudge any exact executive
01:32:51.160 --> 01:32:52.670
for making a lot of money.
01:32:52.670 --> 01:32:53.513
Good for them.
01:32:54.380 --> 01:32:58.960
But is it greed or is it
incompetence, that's going on.
01:32:58.960 --> 01:33:02.840
Where the mismanagement
of the money that's coming in,
01:33:02.840 --> 01:33:05.840
like a gas tax, supposed
to repair the roads.
01:33:05.840 --> 01:33:07.130
Our roads are terrible.
01:33:07.130 --> 01:33:08.993
We've got to increase the gas tax.
01:33:10.010 --> 01:33:13.500
I just I'm mirroring what
the lady said before.
01:33:13.500 --> 01:33:14.880
Just hold off,
01:33:14.880 --> 01:33:17.260
give it a year or the gentleman before
01:33:18.740 --> 01:33:23.740
don't do the increase,
actually show us in a year
01:33:23.950 --> 01:33:28.230
what improvements you made
to justify perhaps an increase
01:33:28.230 --> 01:33:30.540
like along the lines of social security.
01:33:30.540 --> 01:33:34.610
2%, but not 10%.
01:33:34.610 --> 01:33:36.400
Thank you very much for your patience.
01:33:36.400 --> 01:33:38.680
I'm a little nervous.
01:33:38.680 --> 01:33:40.670
I'm also a first time I've called.
01:33:40.670 --> 01:33:41.503
I'm getting fed up here.
01:33:41.503 --> 01:33:42.820
(chuckles)
01:33:42.820 --> 01:33:45.760
And please don't bleed us dry.
01:33:45.760 --> 01:33:47.523
Thank you again. Goodnight.
01:33:48.750 --> 01:33:50.720
Thank you, Mr. Fryer.
01:33:50.720 --> 01:33:53.460
A general reminder again
for those who wish to speak,
01:33:53.460 --> 01:33:56.260
please start by spelling
your first and last name
01:33:56.260 --> 01:33:59.140
and indicate the city
that you were calling from.
01:33:59.140 --> 01:34:01.240
Operator, please call
in the next speaker.
01:34:02.210 --> 01:34:04.790
Our next comment
comes from Ember Wyman.
01:34:04.790 --> 01:34:05.953
Your line is open.
01:34:09.600 --> 01:34:11.830
Hello, my
name is Ember Wyman.
01:34:11.830 --> 01:34:16.540
That's E-M-B-E-R W-Y-M-A-N.
01:34:16.540 --> 01:34:20.883
I'm from Ventura,
California, V-E-N-T-U-R-A.
01:34:25.640 --> 01:34:27.490
Thank you, please proceed.
01:34:27.490 --> 01:34:31.220
I just wanted
to call in and reiterate
01:34:31.220 --> 01:34:34.670
what all of these callers
are saying tonight.
01:34:34.670 --> 01:34:39.320
I just can't believe the
crippling amount to families
01:34:39.320 --> 01:34:44.320
this exponential increases
of SCE is proposing.
01:34:46.000 --> 01:34:50.980
And I hope that you will
consider all of these people
01:34:50.980 --> 01:34:53.130
that are just pleading with you
01:34:53.130 --> 01:34:55.203
to not allow this to happen.
01:34:59.773 --> 01:35:02.960
I don't believe that the expenditures
01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:07.960
are being utilized in the proper manner
01:35:08.670 --> 01:35:12.120
and with everything
that's happening right now
01:35:12.120 --> 01:35:15.810
in the world with a pandemic.
01:35:15.810 --> 01:35:19.790
I just feel like the
extra cost to families
01:35:19.790 --> 01:35:21.070
is going to be...
01:35:22.930 --> 01:35:25.213
It's just gonna cripple people.
01:35:26.511 --> 01:35:29.600
COVID-19 has dropped my family's income
01:35:31.330 --> 01:35:35.310
and the cost of utilities
should not be rising
01:35:35.310 --> 01:35:38.437
at this time of financial crisis.
01:35:45.110 --> 01:35:47.450
I just thank you for
allowing us to all speak
01:35:47.450 --> 01:35:49.200
and I hope that you'll take
01:35:49.200 --> 01:35:50.980
all of our thoughts into consideration
01:35:50.980 --> 01:35:55.570
and our concerns and
worries for our families.
01:35:55.570 --> 01:35:58.220
The students today who are having
01:35:58.220 --> 01:36:01.260
to have their distance learning at home
01:36:01.260 --> 01:36:04.020
is going to seriously increase
01:36:04.020 --> 01:36:07.330
the amount of electricity
use for our families.
01:36:07.330 --> 01:36:11.360
And I just don't know how
people are gonna make it.
01:36:11.360 --> 01:36:15.000
So I appreciate your
time and consideration.
01:36:15.000 --> 01:36:15.833
Thank you.
01:36:17.200 --> 01:36:18.770
Thank Ms. Wyman.
01:36:18.770 --> 01:36:21.947
Operator, will you please
call on the next speaker?
01:36:21.947 --> 01:36:24.510
Our next comment
comes from Michael Negrete.
01:36:24.510 --> 01:36:25.463
Your line is open.
01:36:28.820 --> 01:36:31.193
All right. Thank
you for taking my call.
01:36:32.687 --> 01:36:34.710
I just wanted to starting.
01:36:34.710 --> 01:36:38.450
So it's Michael it's, M-I-C-H-A-E-L.
01:36:38.450 --> 01:36:43.450
Last name is Negrete, N-E-G-R-E-T-E.
01:36:44.000 --> 01:36:46.333
Calling you from Gridley, California.
01:36:47.200 --> 01:36:48.880
Pretty much just reiterating
01:36:50.160 --> 01:36:53.040
as far as what's going on currently.
01:36:53.040 --> 01:36:57.740
And I'm wondering just
Southern California Edison
01:36:57.740 --> 01:37:01.700
is asking us to pay for upgrades
01:37:01.700 --> 01:37:06.700
and they are a public
utility for the public.
01:37:06.730 --> 01:37:10.740
It's more of a question
that they're serving us,
01:37:10.740 --> 01:37:12.893
but I think they're serving themselves.
01:37:14.100 --> 01:37:17.510
For example, if you have your home
01:37:17.510 --> 01:37:20.560
and you need to repair
your roof or something,
01:37:20.560 --> 01:37:22.310
you better start saving some money
01:37:22.310 --> 01:37:26.334
or take a loan out to
replace those items.
01:37:26.334 --> 01:37:31.334
And we buy energy
efficient appliances, lights,
01:37:33.830 --> 01:37:36.570
we cut back on our electricity use,
01:37:36.570 --> 01:37:38.523
but still our rates go up.
01:37:39.610 --> 01:37:42.610
And just like the other gentlemen said
01:37:43.814 --> 01:37:48.603
instead of hearing that they
need to increase their rates.
01:37:52.410 --> 01:37:55.010
I don't think we've ever heard
01:37:55.010 --> 01:37:59.280
that they've made cost
savings at just service.
01:38:01.210 --> 01:38:05.530
And with the solar panel issues,
01:38:05.530 --> 01:38:10.290
I know we had thought about
applying those to our home
01:38:10.290 --> 01:38:13.280
as being of a fairly large rooftop.
01:38:13.280 --> 01:38:16.330
And I guess you're limited
to the amount of solar panels
01:38:16.330 --> 01:38:19.400
you can put up and ask the question why,
01:38:19.400 --> 01:38:23.980
and I guess if you were to
have more solar panels placed,
01:38:23.980 --> 01:38:27.903
the additional electricity
that you would generate,
01:38:29.240 --> 01:38:34.120
you wouldn't be able to
really accrue any profit from it.
01:38:34.120 --> 01:38:35.660
So you were limited
01:38:35.660 --> 01:38:39.090
to the size of solar
panels being placed,
01:38:39.090 --> 01:38:40.370
and it didn't seem quite right
01:38:40.370 --> 01:38:43.490
if you're gonna pay for
something to be placed up there
01:38:43.490 --> 01:38:45.050
and with your money
01:38:45.915 --> 01:38:47.950
why not just add some more
01:38:47.950 --> 01:38:50.220
and maybe you can get a refund
01:38:50.220 --> 01:38:53.520
like they were promoting from the...
01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:54.870
I guess like Edison company.
01:38:54.870 --> 01:38:59.560
You would get actually
compensated a small amount,
01:38:59.560 --> 01:39:02.863
but I don't believe that's happening.
01:39:05.380 --> 01:39:09.520
And Southern California
Edison is the primary supplier,
01:39:09.520 --> 01:39:13.250
of Southern California for electricity.
01:39:13.250 --> 01:39:15.620
So therefore they capture pretty much
01:39:15.620 --> 01:39:17.750
all the electric rate payers
01:39:17.750 --> 01:39:19.500
in this area of Southern California
01:39:20.620 --> 01:39:25.620
and due to the primary electric company
01:39:33.577 --> 01:39:36.340
that's there fears of underestimating.
01:39:36.340 --> 01:39:40.100
They also have of course
benefits for the employees.
01:39:40.100 --> 01:39:44.430
And from what I understand
their own employees get a break.
01:39:44.430 --> 01:39:46.970
They get 20 to 25%.
01:39:46.970 --> 01:39:49.770
If they're within their service area
01:39:49.770 --> 01:39:51.610
on their electric bills.
01:39:51.610 --> 01:39:54.610
And they worked for
Southern California Edison,
01:39:54.610 --> 01:39:58.890
and maybe they should
look into ways of saving
01:39:59.870 --> 01:40:02.670
by removing that from their employees.
01:40:02.670 --> 01:40:06.440
And also just like
the other have said is
01:40:06.440 --> 01:40:09.010
maybe holder holding those bonuses,
01:40:09.010 --> 01:40:13.273
holding rate increases,
go lean flatbed, run lane,
01:40:14.320 --> 01:40:16.780
maybe even have to lose some positions
01:40:16.780 --> 01:40:18.893
like other companies have been doing.
01:40:21.770 --> 01:40:25.497
And so that's pretty much,
01:40:25.497 --> 01:40:29.810
all I have to say just
kinda little different
01:40:29.810 --> 01:40:30.643
than what I've heard,
01:40:30.643 --> 01:40:34.440
but also the same of what I've heard.
01:40:34.440 --> 01:40:38.040
And just it's not the right time.
01:40:38.040 --> 01:40:40.363
It's too much to be asking for.
01:40:41.530 --> 01:40:46.320
And we'd like to see where
the money is actually going
01:40:47.370 --> 01:40:49.450
before they asked for more.
01:40:49.450 --> 01:40:50.637
And that's what I have to say.
01:40:50.637 --> 01:40:52.253
And thank you for your time.
01:40:53.710 --> 01:40:55.590
Thank you Mr. Negrete.
01:40:55.590 --> 01:40:58.637
Operator will you please
call on the next speaker?
01:40:58.637 --> 01:41:00.986
Our next comment
comes from David Beiger.
01:41:00.986 --> 01:41:02.486
Your line is open.
01:41:05.241 --> 01:41:10.241
Is that David
Berger? (indistinct)
01:41:10.256 --> 01:41:12.893
Hello, is that David Berger.
01:41:14.540 --> 01:41:15.600
Yes please.
01:41:15.600 --> 01:41:16.950
Okay David Berger,
01:41:16.950 --> 01:41:22.160
D-A-V-I-D Berger,
B-E-R-G-E-R Avrin California.
01:41:22.160 --> 01:41:24.490
I just want to reiterate going
01:41:24.490 --> 01:41:27.983
from Ms. Pierre down these comments.
01:41:28.860 --> 01:41:30.330
I was astounded when I got this letter,
01:41:30.330 --> 01:41:32.030
which is why I'm calling in
01:41:32.030 --> 01:41:34.490
why I'm listening into this thing today.
01:41:34.490 --> 01:41:37.020
I ask what other business
01:41:37.020 --> 01:41:41.520
has made these kinds
of rate increases any time,
01:41:41.520 --> 01:41:43.120
but especially now at this time.
01:41:44.030 --> 01:41:47.460
I'm astounded that
they're able to do so.
01:41:47.460 --> 01:41:51.470
And what a captive
audience, from what I can tell,
01:41:51.470 --> 01:41:54.370
although I have lived in
places where electricity
01:41:54.370 --> 01:41:57.400
as a commodity is sold competitively.
01:41:57.400 --> 01:41:59.240
That doesn't appear to be the case
01:41:59.240 --> 01:42:00.590
here in Southern California.
01:42:00.590 --> 01:42:03.100
And maybe that needs to be re-looked at,
01:42:03.100 --> 01:42:06.500
because I think if this
was a competitive bid,
01:42:06.500 --> 01:42:08.226
we wouldn't be seeing this.
01:42:08.226 --> 01:42:12.970
I already questioned how they've looked
01:42:12.970 --> 01:42:13.940
at cutting their costs
01:42:13.940 --> 01:42:16.710
and what they're going
to do to be competitive.
01:42:16.710 --> 01:42:18.800
But if they're not competitive,
01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:21.593
because they'll have to be,
then what's the motivation?
01:42:22.800 --> 01:42:25.080
I would ask them to
review lowering their costs.
01:42:25.080 --> 01:42:28.130
I would say in this unprecedented time
01:42:28.130 --> 01:42:30.990
they shouldn't be
increasing rates at all
01:42:30.990 --> 01:42:34.250
and to increase them with
the rates that they're proposing,
01:42:34.250 --> 01:42:35.110
I'm astounded that
01:42:35.110 --> 01:42:37.210
they would even have
the balls to propose.
01:42:38.487 --> 01:42:41.363
It is usually in my opinion,
absolutely ridiculous.
01:42:42.380 --> 01:42:45.690
They need to find a way to
find a way to make this work.
01:42:45.690 --> 01:42:47.790
And as the lady earlier on
01:42:47.790 --> 01:42:50.301
whose name I didn't
catch quite correctly said,
01:42:50.301 --> 01:42:52.720
this is just gonna increase
the homeless problem.
01:42:52.720 --> 01:42:54.870
And we already have
in Southern California.
01:42:57.000 --> 01:42:58.100
Thank you for my time.
01:43:01.200 --> 01:43:03.210
Thank you, Mr. Berger.
01:43:03.210 --> 01:43:05.310
Operator, please call
on our next speaker.
01:43:09.178 --> 01:43:12.140
Our next comment
comes from Viky Avakian.
01:43:12.140 --> 01:43:13.183
Your line is open.
01:43:16.600 --> 01:43:19.820
Hi, it's actually
Christine Avakian.
01:43:19.820 --> 01:43:24.820
So it's C-H-R-I-S-T-I-N-E A-V-A-K-I-A-N.
01:43:25.250 --> 01:43:27.063
I'm from Los Angeles.
01:43:29.198 --> 01:43:30.498
So you can hear me, right?
01:43:31.710 --> 01:43:32.890
Yes.
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Okay. Thank you.
01:43:33.723 --> 01:43:35.530
So I just wanna start off by saying
01:43:35.530 --> 01:43:37.680
like everybody has really great points
01:43:37.680 --> 01:43:40.310
and I just wanna thank
everybody for speaking.
01:43:40.310 --> 01:43:41.910
Like literally I'm just
sitting here saying,
01:43:41.910 --> 01:43:43.030
yeah, that's a great point,
01:43:43.030 --> 01:43:44.380
yeah, that's a great point.
01:43:44.380 --> 01:43:46.130
And just reiterating some of the things
01:43:46.130 --> 01:43:47.960
that other people have said,
01:43:47.960 --> 01:43:51.220
like 14.4%, that's a lot.
01:43:51.220 --> 01:43:52.250
I really just...
01:43:52.250 --> 01:43:54.217
I don't even understand
the reasoning behind that.
01:43:54.217 --> 01:43:55.980
And I would like to.
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I mean, everyone is at home
right now using electricity.
01:43:59.830 --> 01:44:01.180
People are working from home.
01:44:01.180 --> 01:44:02.250
Someone brought up the fact
01:44:02.250 --> 01:44:06.030
that schools are gonna
be doing hybrid schedule.
01:44:06.030 --> 01:44:09.350
People in college are gonna
be doing the same thing.
01:44:09.350 --> 01:44:14.080
So I just don't understand
why you'd be raising the prices
01:44:14.080 --> 01:44:17.780
when people are gonna
be using electricity more.
01:44:17.780 --> 01:44:20.670
It seems really crooked to be honest,
01:44:20.670 --> 01:44:24.450
and like the reasoning behind it
01:44:24.450 --> 01:44:27.500
is like better customer service.
01:44:27.500 --> 01:44:29.380
Personally I don't care.
01:44:29.380 --> 01:44:32.380
I'll wait on hold and
not take this increase.
01:44:32.380 --> 01:44:33.960
If I would given the choice.
01:44:33.960 --> 01:44:34.793
That's fine.
01:44:34.793 --> 01:44:37.293
I don't really care about
the customer service.
01:44:38.916 --> 01:44:40.316
I would rather keep my money
01:44:42.120 --> 01:44:44.990
just that I might know some
people brought it up already,
01:44:44.990 --> 01:44:48.020
but we've done everything
you guys have asked,
01:44:48.020 --> 01:44:50.080
getting our thermostats super high,
01:44:50.080 --> 01:44:54.060
even though it's hot and sweating
01:44:54.060 --> 01:44:56.820
like in the California sun.
01:44:56.820 --> 01:45:00.100
And using the electricity only
01:45:00.100 --> 01:45:01.810
during certain times of the day.
01:45:01.810 --> 01:45:05.060
Not watching during
the daytime, all this stuff.
01:45:05.060 --> 01:45:06.710
And now you wanna just come
01:45:06.710 --> 01:45:09.610
with an outright raise of 14.4%.
01:45:09.610 --> 01:45:13.340
I mean like you can't
do it gradually or less,
01:45:13.340 --> 01:45:14.960
or maybe at a different time.
01:45:14.960 --> 01:45:19.890
And people are literally
struggling to survive.
01:45:19.890 --> 01:45:22.603
And all you care about
is lining your pockets?
01:45:23.660 --> 01:45:24.840
I don't understand it.
01:45:24.840 --> 01:45:28.320
Like what about the low income families?
01:45:28.320 --> 01:45:30.550
What about people
who have been laid off?
01:45:30.550 --> 01:45:31.990
Like what are they gonna do?
01:45:31.990 --> 01:45:36.113
Literally sit in the
dark with no electricity.
01:45:36.990 --> 01:45:38.460
You're gonna make people homeless.
01:45:38.460 --> 01:45:41.840
And to be honest, like when
we're going into a recession,
01:45:41.840 --> 01:45:45.160
it doesn't make sense
to raise the price of things
01:45:45.160 --> 01:45:47.060
that could stay the same,
01:45:47.060 --> 01:45:48.950
'cause then people aren't
gonna be spending money
01:45:48.950 --> 01:45:51.010
on anything aside from bills.
01:45:51.010 --> 01:45:52.460
If you understand economics
01:45:52.460 --> 01:45:54.050
then you know that would create
01:45:54.050 --> 01:45:57.893
a worst situation that we're already in.
01:46:00.870 --> 01:46:04.190
And honestly, you should just be ashamed
01:46:04.190 --> 01:46:06.680
if all these people have to get on here
01:46:06.680 --> 01:46:09.740
and then schools you like your children.
01:46:09.740 --> 01:46:11.510
It's embarrassing.
01:46:11.510 --> 01:46:13.763
I would be embarrassed if I was you.
01:46:15.730 --> 01:46:17.570
And I think that's everything.
01:46:17.570 --> 01:46:18.403
Thank you.
01:46:19.670 --> 01:46:21.560
Thank you, Ms. Avakian.
01:46:21.560 --> 01:46:24.110
Operator, will you please
call on the next speaker?
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Operator will you please
call the next speaker.
01:46:35.440 --> 01:46:36.810
Your
honor the next speaker
01:46:36.810 --> 01:46:38.588
is Richard Orona.
01:46:38.588 --> 01:46:40.838
Richard Orona.
01:46:42.031 --> 01:46:44.190
Your honor
this is Richard Orona.
01:46:44.190 --> 01:46:49.190
R-I-C-H-A-R-D, O-R-O-N-A,
01:46:50.090 --> 01:46:52.190
in Winchester, California.
01:46:52.190 --> 01:46:54.810
Like a few others, this
is actually my first time
01:46:54.810 --> 01:46:57.440
joining the forums and speaking.
01:46:57.440 --> 01:47:02.103
And as others have stated,
this is just poor timing.
01:47:03.929 --> 01:47:05.410
I am one of the two children
01:47:05.410 --> 01:47:07.530
that have had to study from home.
01:47:07.530 --> 01:47:10.800
So yes, my electricity has increased but
01:47:10.800 --> 01:47:14.350
like others have changed
out all my lights leds.
01:47:14.350 --> 01:47:18.410
I try to run my air
conditioners as little as possible
01:47:18.410 --> 01:47:20.883
and the sad thing is that I've used,
01:47:21.960 --> 01:47:25.310
smart power strips to
reduce my consumption.
01:47:25.310 --> 01:47:28.640
Unlike all others, my
bill keeps going up.
01:47:28.640 --> 01:47:31.580
I've tried to look at solar
01:47:32.520 --> 01:47:36.400
and just can't afford it right now.
01:47:36.400 --> 01:47:38.415
Right, even though I'd
rather have solar now,
01:47:38.415 --> 01:47:43.415
these evening rates are
higher than even my regular rate.
01:47:45.070 --> 01:47:49.990
So I just need this is
little time like others.
01:47:49.990 --> 01:47:52.580
And I do agree that companies
01:47:52.580 --> 01:47:53.950
do have the right to make a profit,
01:47:53.950 --> 01:47:56.070
but I just like the company I work for
01:47:56.070 --> 01:47:59.010
those profits should be put back
01:47:59.010 --> 01:48:02.260
into the company at times not always.
01:48:02.260 --> 01:48:04.800
To big bonuses for the exact,
01:48:04.800 --> 01:48:08.170
although yes, they
and their employees do.
01:48:08.170 --> 01:48:11.000
Is there anything I do get bonuses?
01:48:11.000 --> 01:48:12.330
So the company I work for
01:48:12.330 --> 01:48:15.430
always tries to make things cheaper
01:48:15.430 --> 01:48:18.420
if possible for our customers.
01:48:18.420 --> 01:48:21.530
So I know it's just a
repeat of everything
01:48:21.530 --> 01:48:23.740
that's been said but
thank you for your time
01:48:23.740 --> 01:48:24.940
and have a good evening.
01:48:26.980 --> 01:48:28.950
Thank you, Mr. Orona.
01:48:28.950 --> 01:48:31.280
I believe that includes
all of the speakers
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who signed up to speak today.
01:48:33.250 --> 01:48:34.740
If anyone would like to provide
01:48:34.740 --> 01:48:37.830
additional input or
comments after this hearing,
01:48:37.830 --> 01:48:39.580
you may submit written comments
01:48:39.580 --> 01:48:41.880
on the docket card for this proceeding,
01:48:41.880 --> 01:48:44.560
which can be found on
the Commission's website at
01:48:44.560 --> 01:48:48.993
www.cpcu.ca.com\sce2021grcpubliccomments.
01:48:59.140 --> 01:49:02.150
If you need assistance with
providing additional comments,
01:49:02.150 --> 01:49:06.000
please contact the
Commission's public advisor office.
01:49:06.000 --> 01:49:09.050
That concludes this evening's
public participation hearing.
01:49:09.050 --> 01:49:11.950
Thank you all for your
input and comments.
01:49:11.950 --> 01:49:13.970
We will now be off the record.
01:49:13.970 --> 01:49:14.920
Thank you everyone.
01:49:16.450 --> 01:49:17.283
Thank you.